Anyone? Please lol

 

You are best off doing a google search for instructions if anyone has posted them. Don't even know what you are refering to. Personally I wouldn't touch the seals unless they were noticeably coming apart. But again without pictures or further description don't know what seals you are changing and why you even are considering it.

 

Perhaps someone with an alldata subscription can post up some info.

Guessing here that the headliner has to be dropped and the pano removed from inside to replace the perimeter seal.

 

Do you mean this ?

 

I have done extensive google searches. Nothing on my issue, that’s why I took the time to write a post, my apologies if it’s not detailed enough. I will elaborate.

Looking at the sunroof glass from outside the vehicle you have 2 rubber seal gaskets, a front glass seal and a rear glass seal. The Florida heat has taken its toll. They are cracked, and worn, and too much water gets in when it rains heavy. I know this because I’ve cleaned my drains, reconnected the hoses and shrink wrapped them and zip ties them back on, so the drains are clear and functioning better than whenthe car was produced(awful design). So I’m going to replace these rubber seals. I’m wondering if I can just remove the glass, or manipulate the sunroof position in a way to where it’s possible. It’s been raining here so I haven’t had time to get a good look at it, and I’m in an apartment so I don’t have a garage at the moment. Thanks for the help guys I’ll post a pic tomorrow to help make it more clear

 

Ahh you have the well know drain issue... You are chasing the wrong tail...

There is an extensive thread explaining how to fix this issue once and for all. The roof seals have nothing to do with it. You replace them and they will look the same within 2 years. The drains have small restrictions in them that allows any debris to plug them. You must remove those restrictions or you will be chasing this problem for the length you own your car and get very upset with it.

Fix it right and once you realize what the problem really is you won't bother with those seals.

I would post the link to the posting (Wish it would be stickied...) but I am running a tight schedule at the moment and need to get running. Something about "Stop the Insanity" if you want to do a google search.

 

Ahh you have the well know drain issue... You are chasing the wrong tail...

There is an extensive thread explaining how to fix this issue once and for all. The roof seals have nothing to do with it. You replace them and they will look the same within 2 years. The drains have small restrictions in them that allows any debris to plug them. You must remove those restrictions or you will be chasing this problem for the length you own your car and get very upset with it.

Fix it right and once you realize what the problem really is you won't bother with those seals.

I would post the link to the posting (Wish it would be stickied...) but I am running a tight schedule at the moment and need to get running. Something about "Stop the Insanity" if you want to do a google search.

not sure if you saw, but I dropped my whole headliner and zip tied/sealed the hose connections on all 4 corners. It’s not the drains anymore. Haven’t had a leak in about 8 monthsuntil a HEAVY Rain. I can put a dime in between the seal and body. I adjusted glass. So my seals have shrunk from heat it seems. They’re 12 years old

 

I understand. I’ve removed plastic wheel wells with the car on a handrail if lift and bored the rubber out. Never mind. Thanks anyway

 

I think I understood what you meant but I don't know how to replace the rubber gasket/seal around the glass roof...good luck with your

Bill

 

OK, I'm trying the restriction-bore-out method.

Can you drill them out from the wheelwells? Removing all that is a pain on the wagon.

 

OK, I'm trying the restriction-bore-out method.

Can you drill them out from the wheelwells? Removing all that is a pain on the wagon.

You might be able to see them from the wheel well if you pull the plastic fender.. You CAN access the passenger side somewhat easy through the battery compartment area. The drivers side you have to pull off the center section of the side in the wagon. When I added the rear camera to my liftgate I pulled off both side panels and was able to check that both the rear drains were clear of the restriction. I am assuming the fronts are as well.

I understand. I’ve removed plastic wheel wells with the car on a handrail if lift and bored the rubber out. Never mind. Thanks anyway

You did not mention this anywhere in this thread before this point. If you removed the restriction from each of the 4 tubes and verified this visually then it shouldn't be an issue any further. Good luck with your repair.

 

Thanks Rod - got the passenger - now to the driver. I had all that apart when I repaired my taillight tops...should have dealt with it then...

TDwyer1810 - As I mentioned, I don't think there's any way around removing the whole unit to do the seal. Big job!

 

All this time, and no one answered your question TDwyer1810 Lol. Too bad I am dealing with the same issue now with my rear panoramic roof seal. I wanted to try doing it myself. But I can’t find any info online on how to do it. I was quoted $200 at one shop to replace it and I have to buy the seal too. Not sure if I want to attempt it myself or not yet.
Did you get it fixed, and how?

 

Wondering if anyone knows how to remove the glass and replace the seals as well. This is my second go around with a leaking sunroof and yes all the drains have been modified so that is not the issue.

I just pulled the headliner and ran a hose on the closed sunroof so I could pin point where the leak is coming from. What I found is that way too much water is coming in at the corner point where the the to pieces of glass meet on the driver's side and the drain just can't keep up and starts to over flow. I pulled all the hoses to verify again they were all clear and they were. I then zip tied all the hose connections and still the same thing. Water is just pouring in at the connection point on the drivers side. Upon further review it appears that the seals in that spot are cracked and not getting a proper seal.

If anyone out there knows how to remove that glass and replace the seals that would be awesome.

 

Ok I think I found how to remove the glass and it looks like it may be a LOT easier than expected. Watched this video about adjusting the glass for wind noise and I belive the screws he's talking about will allow you to remove the glass front and back if you remove them. I went out and looked and the screws are easy to get front and back. I will check it out in the morning and see if can remove the glass before ordering new seals. Fingers 🤞

 

I hope @Tdwyer1810 got his problem fixed but thanks for this very helpful video instructions @sethc1020. I think this is the same guy whos video I followed to clean my sunroof drains. I started reading this thread as I have some wind noise from my sunroof so wanted to see how to replace the gaskets/seals if needed. I haven't checked my car yet to see if there is the uneven fit as YourSelf said in his video but I'm sure one of the suggestions in this video will help. Man I thought I was a bit of a MacGyver when it comes to DIY but this guy deserves an award.

 

Ok so I didn't actually pull the glass but Im sure these screws will do the trick. All I did this time was losen all 4 of the screws for each set of glass and lifted up on the glass to adjust it for a better seal and tightened them back down and so far so good on the leak!!!! There was an awful lot of play upwards once the screws were loosened. We just had some overnight rain and no wet spots yet so hopefully that all it was. If so I think what may be happening is going through the Crew car wash, over time the dryers are pushing down on the sunroof and the glass is shifting downward creating a bad seal. I could be wrong but this may very well be what was causing the issue.

Just to be clear I didn't remove the middle bar as in the video or even mess with those screws. I'm talking about the 4 screws that are connected to each set glass that are shown around the 40 second mark in the video.

 

A trick we have used in Seville/Deville is to first adjust the sunroof glass to original height specs - GM/Cadillac/Helm service manual. Then, using any OPEN and VENT features, use a tad of ArmorAll to clean the rubber seal lip and the flat roof metal that the lip seals on. Now use an invisible smear of silicone dielectric ignition grease (cheap at any parts store) to lubricate the rubber seal lip and roof metal/painted lip. If you can see the grease after application it's too much. Every 2 - 3 months depending on use and rain and dust.

 

I just learned how to clean the drain tubes and it no longer rains in the back seat. Car is garaged so it was only an issue when driving in heavy rain. I did not think about the dielectric grease. thanks.

 

It's one of the eccentricities of these cars you have to address if you have it long enough or it's of an advanced age. Beautiful cars but they aren't your Chevy that you put oil & gas in & drive every day with no trouble.

Welcome & good luck @housewright7691

 

Wow! Nicely written guys. Not my vehicle but a wealth of information. Dielectric grease is the secret lube for sunroofs mechs and seat tracks after you’ve cleaned out all the old grease.


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Just wanted to give an update, just over a month now since adjusting the glass and not a single leak!!!

 

Did you ever either replace the dry rotted seals or find info on how to do it?