I’m not one for conspiracy theories, but if I was I’d be thinking they d run into some difficult-to-solve manufacturing problems that are preventing any firm (or even loose) delivery estimates.

 

You’d have better luck predicting the lottery numbers than when you’ll receive your Lyriq.

I have Debut order in and my tentative TPW is January 16th which means I might receive my car in March/April (taking there aren’t any more manufacturing delays)

 

Has anyone received a date that those of us at the front of the May 18-19 line will be able to see the actual car that we ordered? I'm anxious to know:

• Value of my trade-in
• Dealership add-ons (delivery fee, tax, title, etc)
• VIN to determine amount of Inflation Recovery Act (IRA) tax relief
• Other criteria that may affect bottom line price

At this point, there is only one person on this forum who says they have a production date for their May order. Everyone else has no information on their May orders. No one is anywhere near the process of delivery and sale for the May orders, and many are wondering if they will get bumped to 2024 model year.

Various Lyriq VINs have been posted here for Debut (and online), but nothing for May orders.

 

I'm the one with the TPW of late January for my May 18-19 order. My current order status is 3000. I won't get a VIN until it reaches 3400 - probably around the 1st of the year.

 

@Zymurgy every time you post this it "forces" me to go check my status even though I should know better....

 

I am May also but ordered white so may not see any movement on my order for a while.

 

I hope someone does a business school case study about how poorly GM has treated customers - eager customers, good customers, get zero information and are kept in the dark for months. Months. Zero information.

This contempt for their customers is coming from a major corporation that presumably knows what it's doing. Are they designing and building cars with a similar level of incompetence? Makes one wonder...

 

I hope someone does a business school case study about how poorly GM has treated customers – eager customers, good customers, get zero information and are kept in the dark for months. Months. Zero information.

This contempt for their customers is coming from a major corporation that presumably knows what it's doing. Are they designing and building cars with a similar level of incompetence? Makes one wonder...

It is definitely quite perplexing. But then, Cadillac's "leadership" has been struggling since the 2010s. Johan de Nysschen, Mark Reuss, Dan Akerson, etc. all made very bad decisions for Cadillac, and it's still recovering. (It doesn't help that Mark Reuss is still at GM, continuing his legacy of misguided leadership.) It's been uncomfortable to watch. The Lyriq may yet succeed due to its somewhat reasonable price and current tech, but if Cadillac can't actually deliver them or figure out how to communicate to customers before they jump ship, then you can kiss this latest experiment goodbye too to join the ELR and CT6.

 

There is a report on Facebook that says Cadillac sent an email to dealerships saying May orders would be produced by the end of March with deliveries April to June.

@Lockhart Cadillac Jason can you comment?

 

There is a report on Facebook that says Cadillac sent an email to dealerships saying May orders would be produced by the end of March with deliveries April to June.

Did the post (email) state if MY 2023 or MY 2024? Mention of RWD only, or AWD also? That seems to be right about the time they said 2024 production would start, so wondering.

 

The post says all May orders. Folks are already questioning it though, they are very doubtful it includes AWD. Hopefully Jason will come on later today and clear up if it’s news or something else

 

Why wouldn't it? Per Jason, they are already going to start building AWD soon since all the demo units will be AWD.

 

AWD original timeline just said spring 2023 I believe. I was never expecting January even before delays.

 

That's correct - for deliveries. Production would in theory need to be sooner. This was the original statement - before the delay email that was sent in August (which only talked about Debut)...

 

GM is being very careful what they say right now with the slower than expected rollout of batteries from LordsTown. A lack of communication is meh for consumers, but it protects them in the stock market.

 

Take care of the customer, and the share price will take care of itself.

 

"Investors" will sue a company if they believe they have made misleading statements. GM/Cadillac needs to be very careful. Unfortunately, that's the litigious society we live in.

 

I'm convinced the rumor of MY '24 production starting in February is totally wrong.

 

I don't believe it was a rumor per say. Thought it came from Cadillac to Jason, on his call or visit. Of course, even any small info that Cadillac does choose to share is always subject to change...

LYRIQ Updates 11/10

Deliveries have resumed as of last week. 2024 Info Now Coming January (2023) *Previously Dec 2022 Looks like additional units will be converted to 2024. More than first thought. 2023 Production numbers get smaller. We could see 2024 LYRIQ production start February 2023 LYRIQ training @...

www.cadillacforums.com

 

I have always been informed early in 2023 for my AWD. Cadillac's Conciege also said January, February or March of 2023. I could live with a 2024 in April 2024 with the same price as listed on the workbench sheet. Frankly, I think Cadillac should flip all of the AWDs to 2024s without increasing the price. Cadillac is way behind with Lyriq deliveries.

 

Frankly, I think Cadillac should flip all of the AWDs to 2024s without increasing the price. Cadillac is way behind with Lyriq deliveries.

I don't see any real benefit to this, other than jumping the car ahead a model year for "newness" purposes. Frankly, I'm not even sure why Cadillac wants to start selling MY24 units before their normal MY start time in the Fall unless they plan on ramping up production and prefer to sell it as a MY24. Even with that there is no reason for them to move "sold" MY23 to MY24.

 

Didn’t GM delay model year change over to complete old MY sales on the vet? Seems like something like that is more likely.

 

Yes, they did. And Chevy had officially communicated the planned MY cutover to their dealers. They changed that cutover multiple times as they weren't able to produce them as quickly as they had planned.

 

To everyone waiting, it could always be worse. I heard of a lady that pre ordered a Ford Maverick Hybrid over 400 days ago.

 

Preodered my Mach E when it was first announced and got it around the 455 day mark. The Mach E forum was just like this concerning frustration over lack of communication, so I guess been there done that?

 

We have an all dealer call today @ 2pm EST. Possible LYRIQ information. Stay tuned.

 

Fingers crossed 🤞 it’s good news, or for that matter any news

 

To me, it's no different than buying a car at the end of a model year, which by the way is usually the only time I've ever bought a new car. I guess just more to add to the list why I don't have a dog in the depreciation hunt.

 

Unless the car is heavily discounted at the end of the model year then it's a BIG financial mistake.

 

LYRIQ Update 12/15

In so many words or less.....The dealer demo units will eat up 23 production. You might see a few units trickle out or be picked up for January but for the most part we won't see allocation until 2024 Model year. The person speaking in regards to LYRIQ did hint at additional models and colors for 2024. Waitlist will be removed from the Cadillac website 1/3. Dealers will receive 2024 Info / digital brochure sometime in January. 2024 LYRIQ kicks off sometime in February 2023. Nothing changes with DE units. Those are still being produced and or ending production soon.

Cadillac did speak about the 2023 EV Credit. And me personally I think this is what the hold up is. The government does not have everything in place for this to go live. Cadillac shared different parameters for qualifying offers that they themselves are still working on in the background. For example, the LYRIQ still needs classified as an SUV and not a sedan. Where the battery is made (USA) comes into play and the minerals used. Overall household income cap (less than $150,000 / Joint $300,000) is also a factor and the MSRP of the LYRIQ as long as it is under $80,000. Starting in 2024 the tax credit could also be used as a discount and not as a rebate should the customer / dealer decide. Sounded like a lot of moving parts and nothing concrete at the moment. $3,750 looks to be the set amount. $7,500 could also be a future possibility if the sun and moon align.

And the moment you all have been waiting for......If you have a order or are on a waitlist for LYRIQ, Cadillac is sending you a $50 gift card which can be used for some exclusive chocolates. Be on the lookout for an email from the Mothership.

Happy Holidays,

 

LYRIQ Update 12/15

In so many words or less.....The dealer demo units will eat up 23 production. You might see a few units trickle out or be picked up for January but for the most part we won't see allocation until 2024 Model year. The person speaking in regards to LYRIQ did hint at additional models and colors for 2024. Waitlist will be removed from the Cadillac website 1/3. Dealers will receive 2024 Info / digital brochure sometime in January. 2024 LYRIQ kicks off sometime in February 2023. Nothing changes with DE units. Those are still being produced and or ending production soon.

Thanks very much for the update. Any idea what that means for those with 2023 orders with specific pricing and options? Will that be honored as these roll to 2024 MY?

 

Thanks @Lockhart Cadillac you will be my dealer the next Cadillac I purchase

 

Much appreciated.

 

Thanks Jason! @Lockhart Cadillac We are a much better informed group because of you.

 

We are all in this together.

 

So I guess we should plan on a 2024 model, with no idea of pricing or equipped levels and wait for Jan specs. Hopefully with the chocolate email will come some information on what they will do to us or for us to make the transition to 2024 model.

 

I am really confused by the announcement. Are we saying May orders will be bumped to ‘24 models with less features to decrease the price? I’ve been on the fence about continuing to wait despite the zero communication but that would be the last straw.

 

Never said anything about less features and decrease in price.

 

Agreed. I hope Jason isn't taking it as shooting the messenger. That's certainly not my intent, unless we're talking about GM corporate. Someone needs to kick that messenger into a hole. Or maybe they already fell in and that's why they don't share.

 

This chocolate better be something …..🤣🤣🤣

 

Not sure how it'll work, but some sound good:

Nice & Neat​

Woodford Reserve Double Oak Bourbon | Woodford Reserve Double Oak Bourbon & dark chocolate.​

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Stolen​

Smoked Rum Pecan | Stolen Spirits Smoked Rum, toasted pecans, & blond chocolate.​

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Old Fashioned Cherry Cordials​

Maraschino Cherries soaked in Woodford Reserve Bourbon with orange zest, fondant infused with bitters all in a hand painted dark chocolate shell.​

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4 Piece Woodford Reserve Gift Box
Inspired by the sweet aromatics that composes Woodford Reserve Double Oaked; Phillip Ashley has crafted four unique chocolates, each infused with this amazing bourbon.​

• Strawberry Smash
• Orange Blossom Whiskey
• Spiked Apple Pie
• Hickory Smoked Maple Bourbon Dark Caramel

Others though I don't know about:

COLLARD GREENS​

Collard greens are stewed in-house and blended with 58% dark chocolate.​

 

Yeah. Basically GM dealers simply decide how they allocate their allocations. So there is no concept of priority per se.