Are you concerned at filling up at a dirty pump?

 

Diesel just always seems oily, smelly and dirty. I was always amazed at people filling up at gas stations with diesel S class Mercedes Benz's. I've always tried to go to a gas pump that don't offer diesel fuel because I don't want to stand in the oily diesel fuel stains while I fill up and then track it into my own car.

 

Just filled up this week. I’ll have to take a look when I go back in a month..,

 

Have you owned other luxury diesel vehicles?

Do you like it over the gasoline Escalade?

 

I see you can't get the Platinum in the 600D

 

False

 

I rent a diesel tank at my house. 500 gallons a shot.

I do have to fill up at gas stations when I travel, and I really haven't noticed any dirtier pumps, to be honest.

I will say that I don't like the fact that the Escalade sounds a bit like a truck, it seems a bit less powerful torque-wise, and the exhaust doesn't smell as good as my V8 escalade. It's pretty yucky.

The DEF thing is a bit of a pain, but not a huge deal. I also put in an additives during each fill-up, especially in the winter, so it doesn't gel.

The fuel economy is super fantastic and all, but I really do prefer everything else about the gasser, truth be told.

 

Thank you.
I’ve been noticing not all gas stations sell Diesel.

 

Not a diesel Escalade owner, but my TDI puts a smile on my face. I don’t have any issue with the cleanliness of the pumps or any strange smells. That said - I think this is a station overall thing. Boatloads of petrol cars leak/seep oil and other fluids, and leave stains wherever they are parked (I’ve owned/fixed plenty) and the times where I see fluid leaks/stains around the diesel pumps, they’re actually at every pump.

edit - my gas station pump complaint is, many times a station has 8-12 pumps and Only 2-4 of those pumps do diesel. Sometimes all the diesel pumps are blocked by people filling with petrol and there are open petrol pumps. Just a minor annoyance, sometimes that’s how the chips fall.

 

The diesel has a different acceleration profile, it sounds different as you would expect, it has different maintenance requirements such as DEF and oil, if you are going to be where it gets bitterly cold you'll want the engine block heater.

Diesel fuel is oilier than gasoline and smells different. The oiler part is why diesel pumps can appear to be dirtier than gas pumps as it simply doesn't evaporate in the same way as gasoline. It also will stick on your hands in the same way where gas would evap and seem to be 'less dirty'. I have a little pack of hand wipes in the door pocket in case I get fuel on my hands. It's not a big deal to me. I never smell diesel from the Escalade unless I am refilling so no, it doesn't smell like a big diesel truck does when sitting in the garage.

The diesel is also much more efficient in fuel economy terms. I just did a round trip from Colorado Springs to Palm Springs, about 1100 miles each way. I averaged 25.3 out, and 26.2 back, with two adults, two dogs and a loaded up cargo area. I tend to drive 10-15MPH over speed limits, so between 75-90MPH speeds up and over the mountains.

The diesel can tow about the same weight (I don't remember exacts) and often does so easier as it has more torque lower in the power band. It will also maintain superior fuel economy when towing, and in my experience the gap widens.

Our Escalade is primarily for road tripping or extended trips between properties. The only thing that would make me choose the gas version would be because the diesel wasn't offered anymore.

 

The diesel has a different acceleration profile, it sounds different as you would expect, it has different maintenance requirements such as DEF and oil, if you are going to be where it gets bitterly cold you'll want the engine block heater.

Diesel fuel is oilier than gasoline and smells different. The oiler part is why diesel pumps can appear to be dirtier than gas pumps as it simply doesn't evaporate in the same way as gasoline. It also will stick on your hands in the same way where gas would evap and seem to be 'less dirty'. I have a little pack of hand wipes in the door pocket in case I get fuel on my hands. It's not a big deal to me. I never smell diesel from the Escalade unless I am refilling so no, it doesn't smell like a big diesel truck does when sitting in the garage.

The diesel is also much more efficient in fuel economy terms. I just did a round trip from Colorado Springs to Palm Springs, about 1100 miles each way. I averaged 25.3 out, and 26.2 back, with two adults, two dogs and a loaded up cargo area. I tend to drive 10-15MPH over speed limits, so between 75-90MPH speeds up and over the mountains.

The diesel can tow about the same weight (I don't remember exacts) and often does so easier as it has more torque lower in the power band. It will also maintain superior fuel economy when towing, and in my experience the gap widens.

Our Escalade is primarily for road tripping or extended trips between properties. The only thing that would make me choose the gas version would be because the diesel wasn't offered anymore.

thank you.
Less stops to fill up would be great.
I’m mostly around town and some 4 hr road trips. I live in FL
How is it passing at 60+ mph?

 

Maybe I’ll try to rent one or even the same in a Chevy truck.

 

It tends to be less immediate of a response. Not necessarily less powerful or slower, but it does require planning your next move accordingly.

 

My average over the past 500 miles:

 

I don’t drive crazy, but I drive fast and read the traffic ahead of me to get by all the SOBs parked in the passing lane. I just don’t like vehicles that are dangerously under powered and not able to pass.

that’s fantastic in an Escalade.

 

In my area, only certain pumps at gas stations have Diesel/gas. I get so many stink eyes from people in their big trucks thinking I am holding up the diesel pump and to fill up my gas Escalade. They then realize I have a diesel and spark up a conversation or apologize for the looks. Good times

 

This is my experience in the Jetta. A while back I resprayed the trunk lid following some rust repair, annd instead of putting the Jetta TDI letters back correctly, I shortened it to Jedi. Long story short, it’s not obvious mines the diesel. Always fun to talk to other diesel folks as they tend to be enthusiasts.

 

Anyone read this book yet about the history of a diesel engine inventor?

Anheuser Busch was the first to buy the exclusive rights to sell the new Diesel motor in the US back in 1897 for $11 million.

 

I have the gas version. Not a day goes by that I don't kick myself. The truth is that diesels just weren't available when I was buying...but damn I should have waited. I live in both Maine and Florida with most family in NY and Boston - I do a lot of long distance driving and wow I struggle to break 300 miles/tank. I'm not a kid either. I cruise and use super cruise. I don't care about mileage either - I care about RANGE. I will not be buying another gas escalade

 

My last car was a Yukon Denali with the same big V8, I now have a Escalade 2023 600D. I can say that the acceleration is less in the 600D than the V8, but I can say the milage is at least 30% or more in the 600D. Also when I tow my Jeep behind the diesel I can hardly tell its there where in the Denali I could tell I was towing it, even when I towed it behind the 2016 GMC 2500HD I could tell.

 

I read the 2025 Escalade diesel will come with a turbo charged engine everyone’s been asking for.

 

The current Duramax (LM2) 3.0 liter in-line 6 cylinder is turbocharged.

The '25 is supposed to get the improved Duramax 3.0-liter engine, the LZ0, that was introduced in '23 GM trucks. It is also turbocharged.

 

You would have to be absolutely insane to want a 277hp diesel motor in a brand new $120k+ large SUV - and pay extra for it! (The Cadillac website shows the duramax as an extra 4 grand option). It’ll take years and years to realize any cost savings.

We are talking about an Escalade, a vehicle that comes stock with what is essentially a de-tuned Corvette motor. Can’t afford the gas? Don’t buy the car. Want better range? Get the ESV with the larger gas tank or learn how to be happy driving at 65mph on the highway.

 

I'm kicking tires for a future purchase. My wife loves the new ESV.

I started looking at the Escalade V ESV but feel listening to the exhaust sound will get old fast.

Just thought it would be great to get 24 mpg in an Escalade but I am noticing how many gas stations around me don't sell diesel

How big of a difference will the LZO engine be over the current diesel motor in performance?

 

Happily Insane! I love my D'max Escalade and it's the perfect vehicle for my use scenario. Don't need or want the extra length of the ESV, and my frequent 1K mile drive can be done with only a single fuel stop. I wouldn't consider the gas version -- but, as always YMMV...

 

Yes certainly, to each his own. Does the Diesel have additional towing capacity? (I honestly don’t know)

I live in area where 93 octane is plentiful. I’ve gotten as much as 20 or even 20.5 mpg on the highway. Let’s say a full tank at 19mpg would last 450 miles. It would take about 7 hours to burn through a tank, more if you stop for food or bathroom.
1000 miles a tank is great but that only translates to saving one, maybe two 10-15 minute trips to the gas station every 7-8 hours of drive time. And you would be stopping anyhow if you use the bathroom or get food. Unless you are a paid driver I personally don’t see the time savings as a good reason to spend an additional 4 grand on a motor with significantly less hp. Disclaimer: diesel in my area is only 15 cents a gallon cheaper than 93 so the minimal cost savings doesn’t equate to a good reason to buy the diesel, either.

 

https://gmauthority.com/blog/2023/03/heres-how-the-gm-duramax-diesel-lz0-engine-stacks-up-to-the-lm2/

In terms of specs, the big changes are the peak power and torque figures, with the new 3.0L I6 LZ0 turbodiesel Duramax engine producing a maximum of 305 horsepower at 3,750 rpm and 495 pound-feet of torque at 2,750, as compared to a maximum of 277 horsepower at 3,750 rpm and 460 pound-feet of torque at 1,500 rpm produced by the turbocharged 3.0L I6 LM2 turbodiesel Duramax engine.

 

I told my wife I wanted to test drive the 600D and she said No way!

I chuckled and said why?

She said three reasons.
1 they’re noisy.
2 they smell bad.
3 the diesel cost more. “We only pump 93 octane”

I said well, none of those reasobs are true today.

she said. So I don’t have a say in this!😂

Happy wife, happy life.

I’m going to have her test drive a 600D without her, knowing it’s diesel, and then see what she says😄

 

I told my wife I wanted to test drive the 600D and she said No way!

I chuckled and said why?

She said three reasons.
1 they’re noisy.
2 they smell bad.
3 the diesel cost more. “We only pump 93 octane”

I said well, none of those reasobs are true today.

she said. So I don’t have a say in this!😂

Happy wife, happy life.

I’m going to have her test drive a 600D without her, knowing it’s diesel, and then see what she says😄

I can vouch for reasons 1 and 2.

1) They are not noisy at all. Unless you point it out, your wife won't even know that she is driving with a diesel engine.
2) You won't smell anything in the diesel.

 

I have a 2024 Silverado 1500 ZR2 with the 3.0 LZO duramax and my wife did not know it was a diesel until I told her the next day. I am getting a diesel in the Escalade as I think it is a perfect match. I love the LZO in the Silverado and just waiting for it to be available in the Escalade.