I’m pretty sure that only the ATS coupe was offered on 2019 and not the sedan. Those sales can come your comparison.


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Sounds smart to cancel a car that's selling well. [emoji848]

 

They had to in order to move the CT6:shhh:

 

There are always choices. Compared to the sells of SUVs, CRVs and trucks, resources for cars may be better served supporting the demand (SUVs, CRVs and trucks). In fact, my wife and I next two purchases include a SUV and a truck.

 

If you want value and economy, the Sedan is still the best transportation choice and the XTS is one of the best values out there.

 

I guess value and economy can be relative. If I can use a vehicle for 15-20 years reliable (able use with minimal repair cost), I am a pretty happy camper. That means I went 10-15 years without a payment (which could be used for saving or repair costs). Fuel is relative as well. It is a matter of how much one drives. But for some, cost is not a concern. It is a matter of amenities. When one looks at buying an XTS, I suspect fuel cost is not that much of a concern. I know for me, it is not that much of a concern. And yes, I currently work a 40 hour week. But, I hoping that will be a thing of the past soon.

 

15-20 years?!?! By the 15 year mark, my car would have over 350k on it!!! Wow you must not drive much!!

 

An automobile used daily is not an investment, it is simply an expense and a big one. I look at annualized costs relative to length of ownership.
$25k for 10 years = $2500 per year, plus maintenance, plus insurance is a good place to be(for me). Dealers say the average is in the $4k per vehicle, per year range. But another statistic I found was in 2017, the average monthly car payment was $479!

Interesting...

 

Yes, total cost is a concern for me as well. I agree; most vehicles do not appreciate. But, most vehicles seem to be made to be disposable. What comes to mind is replacement of failed parts (especially in conduction with an accident). It seems most cars and CRVs are totaled after being involved in an accident. At least, that has been my experience. The cost to repair them is more than the vehicle is worth. I experienced this with a 2002 Highlander in 2013. For what I received for the CRV, I was able to purchase a 2002 Bravada, install wood flooring in my kitchen and pay off a couple of credit cards, all for less than 10K. I still had the Bravada until 2017, which I gave (sold for $400) to my oldest. It seemed like it was built like a tank and rode smooth. My point, trucks and SUVs seem to be able to take a licking and keep going more than cars and CRVs can, which increases the value of a truck and SUV (to me anyway).

 

Yes, repair cost a factor. And if I had not been conditioned to perform preventative maintenance on equipment while serving in the Navy, I might kept with a fairly new vehicle as well. But, ships cost millions of dollars. And, we typically keep one in service for at least 20 years before leasing it to another county. So, I got in the habit of taking care of equipment. As a result, it will perform well throughout its service life. People tell my wife that the 2010 Acadia looks new. I told my neighbor that my Tacoma is a 2006. She thought it was much newer than that. I just try to fix stuff as it breaks. So far, it has worked for me.

 

I put 10k per year on my personal vehicle. My Pickup(07 Sierra) has 160k, wifes Minivan(14 Town and Country) has 70k, and now my '18 XTS with 34k.
After the XTS Purchase my truck got demoted to truck things but I wouldn't be afraid to start a 5k trip in it. Before I bought the Cad I looked at used Suburban and Yukon XL's and the money I paid for the XTS would buy me a '15 with 150k mi +- of either.

 

I think we are in agreement that trucks and SUVs have more life than a car. By the way, I have been looking at a XT6, Tahoe, Yukon and Sierra. But, Highlander and Tundra have been tossed around also. Will see how things look (and ride) when the time come.

 

If you look there are XTS's out there with 200k+ miles, for instance a '13 Lux, 330k and asking $5900...Still!
That's one of the reasons(Just One) I chose the XTS. There are many more with 250k+

 

Okay.

 

If you are willing to shell out the cash for a full-sizer then DO IT, no question. I have a 2010 Tahoe Z71 with only 80k on it that I was thinking about replacing this past winter...but i'm not willing to pay $70k for the new one, because I don't really even like it. Even on the used market, 4-5 year old examples are $45k. So I looked at pickups, which i'm also not that big on, and despite all the discounts they were offering on the 18's at the time, I still wasn't happy with what i'd be getting. So I decided to keep the Tahoe and just put some money into it (new suspension, tune-up, intake/tune, new wheels, and an interiorior/exterior modernization). I'm going to keep it for a minimum three more years and then see how I feel at that point. The beauty of it is that I have no concerns about whether or not it will hold up that long...it will, without issue.

 

@Raven - Went through similar machinations replacing our Tahoe this year, although this Tahoe was a 1995(!) owned since 1998. Looked at Tahoes that were 5-7 years old with 75K, and they were about 10-15K more than I wanted to spend. Looked at mid-size - Explorer, Traverse - still seemed overpriced in the low to mid 20s. The XTS seems like an outstanding value, our 13 with 53K miles was under 20K all in with sales tax. The 3.6 VVT V6 is well developed and goes in Impalas and Buick LaCrosse's also. A while ago I was apprehensive about buying a 5 year old luxury car because of all the electric/electronic stuff that could fail. I've now rationalized that the XTS has about 1.5X electrical/electronic stuff that an Impala has, and the Impala would not be viable without most all of it operating for 100K miles+. I put the rust-free, 180K Tahoe on the local Craigslist, and it was bought sight unseen (except for pics) by a guy in Buffalo for $3,300 plus $1,500 shipping from my driveway on a car hauler with a bunch of other cars headed east.

 

A while ago I was apprehensive about buying a 5 year old luxury car because of all the electric/electronic stuff that could fail.

The CUVs I was looking at were far less well equipped and luxurious than our 2015 Platinum.
Even top spec luxury cars are cheap, CUVs are expensive, decision was easy.

 

Based on the last few comments, seems like a SUV is considered more durable, which I agree. I purchased a XTS based on the reliability of my Acadia. Thinking that a Cadillac would hold better than a GMC (will not go there). I thought I would get at least 10 years out of it (and, I probably will). But, I was hoping that I would not encounter too many issues during that time frame. I chose a sedan over a CRV or SUV, because I was looking for a smooth ride. However, I am finding that CRVs and SUVs ride just as smooth (if not smoother). So, I am thinking about a CRV or SUV for my next purchase. Plus, I have gotten use to sitting higher as I ride down the road.

 

Buy what you like, drive what you want, but as I've stated, IMHO the sedan is the best value, monetarily and economically for daily transportation. I probably won't drive my XTS or any other vehicle I own to 300k but its nice to know its possible.

 

I can understand. I drive a truck to work. I may get 16-18 mpg. But, I fill up every other week. So, I do not worry about it too much. If I had to fill up twice a week, I may be more concern with fuel cost. Therefore, I may consider a sedan or a 5 speed vehicle or a motorcycle. For now, a truck will do. My sedan is for travel. So, I use it for weekend getaways or road trips. So far, this seems to work for me.