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I know I sound like probably the number one complainer here. But wow, first XT5 was a complete dud. Second one still underperforms in many ways. A co-worker just bought a new Equinox. Holy jump'n, I didn't realize how much the XT5 was a prettied up Equinox. The two previous generation SRX's were very much Cadillac, and if you compared them to a Chev you couldn't see a lot of similarities. But the current versions are so much alike that I was embarrassed when I see that her Chev has every option including around view cameras and every safety tech and AWD and she paid less that my base FWD XT5. These are the reasons that make the reviews slam Caddy for GM parts bin usage. I was parked beside hers and they are essentially matching SUV's with different logos on them. I'm quite disappointed when you compare, you literally feel ripped off.


I'm gonna get banned for all the complaining lol. But boy, this is coming from a die-hard Caddy fan and my XT5 experience has soured me big time. Sorry... I promise I won't complain until the next thing my XT5 does to disappoint me.
 

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Interesting that you brought this up. My father-in-law has been drooling over my XT5 since I bought it back in early December. He rode in it and loved everything about it.

However, last week he purchased a 2019 Equinox. Get ready for the novel I'm about to write. He didn't test drive it, just bought it off the lot because his car was in for service and he tends to make very rash decisions on stuff like cars. (He's also never happy with vehicles and trades constantly. Never researches them and barely has any idea about features, etc)

Funny because he bought a red one with black interior which is the exact color combo my XT5, except he has cloth seats. :bigroll: I think he got an LT which is their mid-grade, so it's not loaded like I'm assuming your co-worker's is. But I feel the opposite way you did, when they are next to each other, his Equinox looks like it's trying to be my XT5.

I will tell you, after riding in it, it is absolutely not comparable to the XT5. Sorry but no. Maybe the top trim level is, I couldn't say. At first glance, maybe to some they look like the same car - but the devil is in the details. I think the front ends look completely different and the XT5 is so much more attractive it's not even funny.

His Equinox is louder, the ride is not smooth and if people think the plastic feels cheap in their Caddy's, check out a mid-grade Chevrolet and get back to me. All the cheap plastic on the bottom areas of the XT5 is allll over inside the Equinox.
I was playing around with the touch screen and it sucked, quite frankly. Wouldn't register what I was pushing which was frustrating. I didn't even really explore the interface because it wouldn't respond, so I gave up.

The 2019 Equinoxes are also 4 cylinder, so there's that, too. Some trims come in turbo configurations (I think?) but yeah - no thanks.
Think the XT5 is underpowered? Honestly, after being in that Equinox for a 10 minute ride I couldn't wait to get out. Jerky? Yep. Also has start/stop. I don't know if it can be turned off though. My father-in-law had no idea, either.
It doesn't have Sport mode or manual shifting. The shifter isn't electronic (a bonus for some, but I happen to like the XT5's shifter a lot) He did get AWD and has a button to turn it on or off like we do in AWD XT5's.

I thought the lines of the dash and vertical vents on either side of the touchscreen were ugly and there's a stupid seam running down the center of the console. Like, really? A seam? They couldn't spring to make that one piece? Refinement is lacking. There are more knobs and buttons for temp and stuff like that, but it appeared cluttered to me now that I'm not used to it.
The Equinox looks cheap and feels even cheaper. Sorry I sound like a snob.

Is it a horrible car? Not at all, for the money it's as good as you'd get nowadays. There's definitely worse choices. And we can assume the loaded top trim level is nicer than the one I was in.
People buy cars for the feeling they get when they drive them. What's important to you might not be important to me and vice versa, which is perfectly ok.

I will 100% agree with you on one thing, I owned a 2004 SRX and that puppy was a true Cadillac; a tank that could go like hell. The XT5 doesn't have that same beastly feeling but I don't know what does these days... definitely not the Equinox, though.
 

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I will 100% agree with you on one thing, I owned a 2004 SRX and that puppy was a true Cadillac; a tank that could go like hell. The XT5 doesn't have that same beastly feeling but I don't know what does these days... definitely not the Equinox, though.
Nice on the 2004. My 07 SRX had every single feature and was the sport V8 version. My wife literally loved that SUV and that V8 engine still had another 10 years in it. We ran it until just this past fall and the only reason we moved to the XT5 was the SRX was so rusted in too many key areas underneath that it was becoming unsafe. That's what 11 years of Ontario winters with salt does to cars. That SRX was truly luxury in all aspects, was like nothing else GM had, was fast as heck and had tons of room. You say "tank", it truly was. Nothing got in the way and it went through some white knuckle snow storms on the highway and got me through safe every time. We actually miss it and even though it was 11 years old it was so decked out with options that my Xt5 feels lacking in many ways compared. Anyhow, you triggered me with the comment lol.
 

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Nice on the 2004. My 07 SRX had every single feature and was the sport V8 version. My wife literally loved that SUV and that V8 engine still had another 10 years in it. We ran it until just this past fall and the only reason we moved to the XT5 was the SRX was so rusted in too many key areas underneath that it was becoming unsafe. That's what 11 years of Ontario winters with salt does to cars.
Sorry to hear the liquid rot they spray on the roads was the demise of your SRX. I'm sure that was a tough pill to swallow, they just don't make 'em like that anymore. Mine lived the majority of its life in Colorado and believe it or not, didn't have a speck of rust on it. They must use a different brine out there or something.
Unfortunately, it contracted a case of the gremlins that couldn't be narrowed down. There was a small electrical fire in the rear passenger door when something shorted out and after that, all sorts of things got weird real quick.

I can understand some of your complaints about the XT5, especially as someone who also had a 1st gen SRX. They were ahead of their time, filling a unique niche in the market that seemed to just sadly go away after the introduction of the mainstream, fuel-economy-driven crossover we have now.
 

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XT5 and Equinox are on different chassis so that aren’t that much similar.
The new 2019 Chevy Blazer have the same chassis, motor and AWD system but 9 speeds transmission instead of 8 speeds for 2019 XT5 so this is the Chevy model to compare with XT5. 2020 XT5 will get the new 9 speeds automatic transmission that Chevy Blazer have.
 

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I know I sound like probably the number one complainer here. But wow, first XT5 was a complete dud. Second one still underperforms in many ways. A co-worker just bought a new Equinox. Holy jump'n, I didn't realize how much the XT5 was a prettied up Equinox. The two previous generation SRX's were very much Cadillac, and if you compared them to a Chev you couldn't see a lot of similarities. But the current versions are so much alike that I was embarrassed when I see that her Chev has every option including around view cameras and every safety tech and AWD and she paid less that my base FWD XT5. These are the reasons that make the reviews slam Caddy for GM parts bin usage. I was parked beside hers and they are essentially matching SUV's with different logos on them. I'm quite disappointed when you compare, you literally feel ripped off.


I'm gonna get banned for all the complaining lol. But boy, this is coming from a die-hard Caddy fan and my XT5 experience has soured me big time. Sorry... I promise I won't complain until the next thing my XT5 does to disappoint me.
That is my biggest complaint about the XT5, that it uses too many "parts bin" components. I know that with some things, say window switches, when you come up with a good design, there's no need to "dress it up" for a luxury version. But things like putting the samw 2-way lumbar support int he Cadillac as you find on the cheapest Chevy, that's the antithesis of luxury.

Aren’t you suppose to post this in the “Complaining” thread?
No, the "Complaining" thread is about NOT complaining. I know that's confusing, but it is what it is.

XT5 and Equinox are on different chassis so that aren’t that much similar.
That's what I thought. The XT5, Chevy Traverse, GMC Arcadia and Buick Enclave are on the same "chassis", but the XT5 is the smallest of all of them.

Do you think they design all new systems for every vehicle? You should have bought a Lexus. Oh wait, a number of them are just Toyota’s.
"A number"? No, all of them are. Of course come of those Toyotas are models not sold int he USA. in fact, Lexus was originally jsut sold int he USA - they sold those same models elsewhere in the world branded as Toyota. They just didn't think USA buyers would pay $40K for a "Toyota" so they came up with a new name. Sort of the way GM has done for years and years with Chevy and Cadillac. The CTS, ATS and CT6 seem to be somewhat unique within GM, so it is a shame that the XT4 and XT5 have to be "parts bin" clones with a little extra leather.
 

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I have a 2016 Equinox in my garage next to my 2017 XT5. For the 2016 MY, the Equinox was on the same chassis and same engine as the 2017 XT5 but with different transmission.

I checked out the 2018 Equinox when I was shopping for the XT5 and they changed the chassis to a slightly shorter one and changed the engine to a Turbo V4 for the 2018 MY. (My opinion is they were trying to better differentiate the Equinox from the Traverse and appeal to the market that wanted a smaller, more fuel efficient version.)

My overall opinion between the Equinox in my garage and the XT5 is the way more refined and has more features than the Equinox, and I have the top end Equinox (LTZ) with most of the bells and whistles for that car. Yes, there are a lot of shared parts between the two but there is a big difference overall between them.
 

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The XT5 is not or was not the same platform as the Equinox. The XT5 and GMC Acadia are the only two on the same platform. The Traverse and Buick Enclave are on the longer version of the same XT5/Acadia platform. I think the new Cadillac XT6 3 row SUV will also be the same platform (long version).
 

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I have a 2016 Equinox in my garage next to my 2017 XT5. For the 2016 MY, the Equinox was on the same chassis and same engine as the 2017 XT5 but with different transmission.

I checked out the 2018 Equinox when I was shopping for the XT5 and they changed the chassis to a slightly shorter one and changed the engine to a Turbo V4 for the 2018 MY. (My opinion is they were trying to better differentiate the Equinox from the Traverse and appeal to the market that wanted a smaller, more fuel efficient version.)

My overall opinion between the Equinox in my garage and the XT5 is the way more refined and has more features than the Equinox, and I have the top end Equinox (LTZ) with most of the bells and whistles for that car. Yes, there are a lot of shared parts between the two but there is a big difference overall between them.
A turbo V4? you sure??
 

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A turbo V4? you sure??
Here are the engine options for the 2018 Equinox:

"the following engines are available in the 2018 Chevrolet Equinox:
1.5L turbocharged DOHC DI 4-cylinder engine. 170 horsepower @ 5,600 RPM. 127 lb-ft. ...
2.0L turbocharged DOHC DI 4-cylinder engine. 252 horsepower @ 5,500 RPM. 260 lb-ft. ...
1.6L turbocharged diesel 4-cylinder engine. 137 horsepower @ 3,750 RPM."
 

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Here are the engine options for the 2018 Equinox:

"the following engines are available in the 2018 Chevrolet Equinox:
1.5L turbocharged DOHC DI 4-cylinder engine. 170 horsepower @ 5,600 RPM. 127 lb-ft. ...
2.0L turbocharged DOHC DI 4-cylinder engine. 252 horsepower @ 5,500 RPM. 260 lb-ft. ...
1.6L turbocharged diesel 4-cylinder engine. 137 horsepower @ 3,750 RPM."
Those are I4 (inline 4-cylinder engines) not, "V4" engines. There have been a handful of V4 engines used in cars through the ages, but not these.
 

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The XT5 is not or was not the same platform as the Equinox. The XT5 and GMC Acadia are the only two on the same platform. The Traverse and Buick Enclave are on the longer version of the same XT5/Acadia platform. I think the new Cadillac XT6 3 row SUV will also be the same platform (long version).
So is the XT4 on the same platform as the Equinox/Terrain? Or is it based on something else, or entirely unique?
 

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Here are the engine options for the 2018 Equinox:

"the following engines are available in the 2018 Chevrolet Equinox:
1.5L turbocharged DOHC DI 4-cylinder engine. 170 horsepower @ 5,600 RPM. 127 lb-ft. ...
2.0L turbocharged DOHC DI 4-cylinder engine. 252 horsepower @ 5,500 RPM. 260 lb-ft. ...
1.6L turbocharged diesel 4-cylinder engine. 137 horsepower @ 3,750 RPM."
V4 engine configuration has rarely been used in cars, but often in motorcycles, confusing i know...
 

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My fiancee and I both bought new vehicle in August. She leased an 18 Terrain Denail and I bought the 18 XT5 base with the 0% for 60 mth financing at the time. While the Terrain is sleek looking (IMO), it really lacked in performance. It had decent power with the 2.0T, but the handling was awful. The turn radius was really odd to say the least.

Anyway, I was totally unimpressed, but she seemed to really like it, so she went with it. She was leasing it so I wasn't too concerned long term. Well, she drove my XT5 over the next few weeks after our purchases, and she immediately wanted to trade the Terrain Denali for an XT4 or XT5 (all along she thought the XT5 would feel "too big")...

Well, in December, I ended up letting her take my XT5 and we traded the Terrain Denali for a 18 Silverado (I work in the business and the 18 Silverados had crazy rebates, and it's a really good truck). We're both happy because I get to drive the XT5 on the weekend, and she got herself out of the Terrain..

Point of my story is I would expect the Equinox to drive/perofrm like the Terrain, and I can tell you, they are nothing like the XT5...
 

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The new 2019 Chevy Blazer have the same chassis, motor and AWD system but 9 speeds transmission instead of 8 speeds for 2019 XT5 so this is the Chevy model to compare with XT5. 2020 XT5 will get the new 9 speeds automatic transmission that Chevy Blazer have.
I will be interested in upgrading my SRX to an XT5 if that is true, as that would make it recreational towable as the Equinox and Blazer are.
 
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