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Head gasket repair (done correctly) $2,750. New Tranny $3,300 installed. New F55 struts $1300 installed. Going WOT, worry free, on the highway and through the twisties ..........priceless
 

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AS Cornelius Vanderbilt once said when ask about the price of his yacht, "If you have to ask, you can't afford it!"
 

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1997 Cadillac STS (BOSE w/AUX In, Massage Seats, URPAS, "Z")
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Most expensive are struts:
$2400 parts alone for CVRSS (F45), probably another $400 labor (absolute minimum price possible). F55 would be ~$200 less.
>$3600 is transmission replacement
$2500 and up for HG
$800 A/C compressor (many others repairs are in the same price range - almost $1000: fuel pump, exhaust, rack and pinion, ELC compressor).

I spent in '08 close to $15K on car repairs (including a paint job involving complete disassembly - not a Maco masking tape over the seals job), I spent just over $10K in '13, any other year was hovering ~$4500.
That is the cost of ownership (at least in Canada).
 

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Master of the Dark Art of Diagnostics
2003 DHS - two-2002 DHS, 2003 SLS, 1995 Sedan DeVille, 1989 Coupe DeVille
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Most expensive are struts:
$2400 parts alone for CVRSS (F45), probably another $400 labor (absolute minimum price possible). F55 would be ~$200 less.
>$3600 is transmission replacement
$2500 and up for HG
$800 A/C compressor (many others repairs are in the same price range - almost $1000: fuel pump, exhaust, rack and pinion, ELC compressor).

I spent in '08 close to $15K on car repairs (including a paint job involving complete disassembly - not a Maco masking tape over the seals job), I spent just over $10K in '13, any other year was hovering ~$4500.
That is the cost of ownership (at least in Canada).
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I spent in '08 close to $15K on car repairs

I spent just over $10K in '13

any other year was hovering ~$4500
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so - let me get this right -
you have spent close to $30,000 in the last 5 years -
and it SOUNDS like you are actually BRAGGING about it - :hmm:

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1962 coupe (selling), 1995 Seville SLS, 1966 Sedan DeVille
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$2,500 for transmission solenoid repair/replace. Included labor.
$1,600 for passive suspension parts and install (went with the Arnott set all around).

I'm chasing that @#$% Circuit 800 failure now - and if I can't track it down, that might be lotsa $.

At least I didn't have to replace the HGs yet!
 

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Master of the Dark Art of Diagnostics
2003 DHS - two-2002 DHS, 2003 SLS, 1995 Sedan DeVille, 1989 Coupe DeVille
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$2,500 for transmission solenoid repair/replace. Included labor.
$1,600 for passive suspension parts and install (went with the Arnott set all around).

I'm chasing that @#$% Circuit 800 failure now - and if I can't track it down, that might be lotsa $.

At least I didn't have to replace the HGs yet!
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$1,600 for passive suspension parts and install
(went with the Arnott set all around).

too bad you didn't ask questions FIRST -
you could have had a MUCH - MUCH better set of struts and shocks -
for about 1/3 the cost - or less - if you had gone with MONROE -
 

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Actually the car expenses (not counting insurance, fuel, oil) since I own it have surpassed the original sticker price.

I believe I provided once the list of items I remember I replaced (front to rear bumper):
- License plate holder (it was cracked when I bought the car)
- License plate covers and screws (twice because of sun fading)
- Bumper cover (it was cracked near the driver’s side fog light)
- Emblems (all 4) because I wanted gold plated ones.
- Right side headlamp assembly (small rock chip on the lens and mirror reflector developing some spots)
- Add 1 missing screw for the driver’s side headlamp filler panel (missing when purchased the car)
- All plastic light assemblies (front) because of rock chips (at least once each)
- Mud shield and clips (it was in bad shape when I bought the car)
- Fog lights (one had a rock chip on the lens and the brackets were rusting)
- One of the turning signals sockets (I believe on the driver’s side), due to corrosion
- Hood + painting (found it dent right in the middle after a hit and run)
- Under-hood light lens
- Add 4500K HID bulbs for low beam
- Radiator (cracked side tank)
- Radiator plastic cover + serpentine belt sticker (twice, once lost by a shop and second time because it cracked along the flex line)
- Cooling fan relay bracket (corrosion)
- Battery (4 times so far)
- Most of the vacuum lines and fittings (some multiple times)
- Alternator (3 times so far)
- EBTCM (BPMV manifold side) and mounting hardware plus have one spare brand new EBTCM
- Outside temperature sensor
- Brake lines (6 of the 9 individual pieces)
- PCM (Z rated)
- Coolant tank (cracked around the purge line nipple)
- Battery positive terminal red insulator
- Fuel line (SS upgrade)
- Spark plugs and wires (twice so far)
- Coolant tank cap (lost it)
- A/C compressor, drier, filter oil
- Harmonic balancer
- PS pump and pulley (not the tank)
- PS return line
- Timing chains
- Timing chain tensioners
- Head bolts and gaskets (no reason, just when with Sure grip studs)
- Starter solenoid
- PCV (twice)
- EGR valve
- EGR line (cracked)
- Throttle body MAF housing (original had a cosmetic crack on the lip)
- WP
- Belts
- WP tensioner pulley/bearing
- Accessories belts tensioner
- About half of the engine compartment relays (corroded pins)
- Ignition coils and ICM (just felt like it no reason). I was missing 2 bolts since bought the car
- Oil plate, generally every single gasket in the engine (it was leaking)
- Oil level sensor
- Few electrical connectors in the engine compartment that had broken locking tab (no wires were cut)
- “Y” pipe
- Front sway bar
- Most of the engine compartment wire harness clips (original parts there are no cable ties in there)
- Air intake box bottom side (cracked mounting point since purchased)
- Air filter (~5 times) and oil filter (~5 times/year)
- Transmission cooler lines
- Oil cooler lines
- Cruise control cable
- Upper struts bar
- Vacuum tank
- Driver’s side upper strut bolt rubber cover (original was not sitting properly)
- Coolant steel lines (rear or right side of the engine) and connecting hoses
- Transmission (twice)
- Torque converter
- VSS, TCC solenoid, filters, fluid (3 times)
- Front sway bar links (~4 times)
- Front sway bar bushings (twice)
- Front sway bar (original found cracked)
- Front wheel hubs (twice on each side)
- Front wheel hubs dust shields (updated to gen. V style to support the brake pad wear sensors)
- Struts (with new original)
- Upper strut mounts
- Brake rotors (2 times)
- Brake pads (4 times)
- Add front brake pads wear sensors and harness (not finished yet – undergoing project)
- Rack and pinion
- Inner tie rods (once with the rack and pinion and once after).
- Front - driver’s side height sensor
- Driver’s side fender (original had the one of the holes for the wheel arch plastic covers enlarged)
- Some of the wheel arch black trims (original were scratched and or had rock chips or small dents when car was purchased)
- Rims upgrade from factory original 7-spoke brushed aluminum to identical chrome finish rims.
- All center caps were replaced at least once, have spares (including brand new NOS) and 3 spare rims.
- Tires replaced 3 times so far
- Subframe bolts (rear ones)
- Plastic grille below the windshield (original had 2 fins cracked)
- Windshield washer nipples (2 so far) and lines.
- Windshield (twice)
- Wiper blades 3 times
- Windshield “A” pillar trims (both side due to rubber drying out)
- Windshield upper rubber weather strip
- Dash board controls main vacuum supply line
- Rear view mirror (upgraded to the ‘98+ style)
- “A” pillar inner trim (twice on each side), original owner was smoker has small burn spots.
- Defrost grille
- IPC (upgraded to ‘98+ with additional feature programming)
- Replaced every single interior light with white LED
- Steering wheel upgrade to woodgrain ‘00+ Eldorado (actually steering wheel was replaced twice)
- Every single wood trim piece (including dashboard and PRND321) with the exception of the rear doors and driver’s door
- Shifter knob
- Driver’s door handle assembly (original had a cracked bezel mounting)
- Driver’s side door handle bezel and door lock switch (original had one clip broken)
- Flasher
- Turn signal wand (original had the letters worn out)
- Steering wheel turn signal cam and return spring
- Steering wheel controls (volume control cracked hinge)
- Upgraded to BOSE sound system (HU, Speakers, RIM, Relays, car harness)
- Driver’s seat back rest leather skin
- Add massage seats option (AM3) to both front seat (making it the ONLY ’97 STS with this option). Involve replacing the lumbar support, the full seat harness and adding the massage modules.
- Add embroidered floor mats (front and rear)
- Replaced MMM module with ‘98+ adding the Mirror Tilt to Curb in reverse option
- Replaced the “INFO” module with the ‘98+ style with the yellow “YES”, “NO”, “CANCEL” text
- Climate Control Module (replaced with brand new ‘98+ style)
- Driver’s door weather strip (twice)
- Roof line doors weather strips (either side)
- Driver’s side door frame (around windshield) plastic trim (twice)
- Driver’s door belt line (bottom of the door window) trim (original had some small dents from previous owner scraping ice).
- The above mentioned trim cap (3 times), it has the tendency to crack in winter)
- Master window switch, in fact every single window switch (upgrade to Deville chrome accent switches).
- Driver’s memory buttons (originals had the numbers wiped)
- Driver’s door rear view mirror interior (triangular) trim and mounting clips
- Driver door window reveal molding (front/top side of the door frame on the outside - twice)
- 2 of the front seat rail cover trims (cracked clip)
- Passenger side front door panel (original had a small cut)
- Driver’s side door rear view mirror glass (the LCD was draining)
- Front doors (front edge) rubber trim (in the hinges area)
- Every single plastic clip mounting the bottom door moldings
- The 2 rubber trims mounted on the rear door frame -“B” pillar area (original were lost by a shop)
- Passenger side rear rocker panel cover (that one I crack it by driving over a flat rock on a rest stop, the rock cracked in half and hit the trim)
- The very expensive chrome strip around the vehicle (front/rear bumpers and side moldings).
- All 4 cigarette lighters (original owner was a smoker)
- Rear glass weather strip
- Catalytic converter (with original)
- Post cat O2 sensor
- Exhaust “O” ring hangers
- ELC compressor and intake line
- Rear sway bar links
- Rear knuckle bushings
- Rear calipers (both sides) and mounting hardware
- Replaced PZM with ’98+ (including repining the connectors) adding the extra feature programming features (like horn beep at door lock, different pattern parking light flashing at door unlock)
- Add factory URPAS making it the ONLY ‘97 STS with URPAS (Tell tale module, URPAS module, sensors).
- Add RIM (Rear Integration Module) to support the chimes for the URPAS.
- 12 Disk CD changer + bracket (originally the option was not selected)
- Gas door (original developed a spot of rust)
- Fuel pump assembly
- Fuel tank filler neck (original rusted)
- Fuel tank to filler neck connecting hose
- Mufflers (twice so far use the ONLY aftermarket direct fit available – Walker Quiet flow as OEM were discontinued)
- Power antenna motor (I do have one brand new OEM spare antenna)
- Fuel door manual release cable (original was broken)
- Outer tail lamps (driver’s side twice) due to cracking and condensation
- Driver’s side inner tail lamp (original had condensation)
- Upgraded to LED rear light bulbs (I am talking $250 bulbs, not $5 dim crap)
- Rear license plate light assembly (cracked due to heat)
- Most of the plastic “Christmas three” clips everywhere in the car and harness clips
- Some of the wheel lock nuts
- 3-rd brake light LED strip (twice) plus have one spare.
- Some of the under body bolts

I am sure I am forgetting lots of things
Add to these a full paint job (with body stripped of all accessories - trims, bumpers, windows...empty shell), at least once every 2 years underbody paint, every year rust proofing...
 

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To put N*Caddy's maintenance list in perspective, you need to understand that his car is maintained to a factory-new level seldom seen outside the Ferrari/Lamborghini fanatic collector paddock. This is the same car he drove, essentially nonstop, counterclockwise around the U.S. - 11,000 miles in 3 weeks, no problems. He also replaced all incandescent lamps in the car and made every LED bulb from scratch - sockets to circuit boards to multi-LED stacks.

........... and it's a daily driver.
 

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1997 ETC
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Engine rebuild/Engine swap
Blower Motor
New Monroe F45 Struts and Shocks
Starter
FPR
Pioneer Double Din
Infinity 2ohm speakers 4" fronts and rear 6x9's
Infinity reference 1300a amp and 10" Infinity Reference subwoofer @2ohms 300w RMS
New tires (2x)
Drilled and Slotted Rotors
New calipers and Ceramic Pads
Rear interior Panels
Door panels
Heater Core
CMP
AC Delco Alternator
Exide AGM battery
Oil Level Switch
AC Delco Plugs, Wires
AC Delco SS fuel Rail
AC compressor
Low pressure switch
Complete AC service from Firestone
Custom painted Beauty cover coming soon (thanks Tim)
New Wheel
New Paint job
And i'm sure i'm forgetting a few other things..
 

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2003 DHS - two-2002 DHS, 2003 SLS, 1995 Sedan DeVille, 1989 Coupe DeVille
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not including gas - oil changes -
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my 02 Deville DHS purchased new - 27,000 miles -

replace thermostat gasket - warranty - N/C
coolant drain/refill 3 times - $60
clean throttle body once - $10
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TOTAL - $70 -

NOTE - if I were going to go cross-country -
I would replace the tires - ONLY because they are 12 years old


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my 03 Seville SLS - purchased new - 73,000 miles -

installed HID headlights - $150 -
coolant drain/refill 3 times - $60 -
serge tank - $56 -
water pump idler pulley - $24 -
rear ignition coil cassette - used - $25 -
spark plugs - DENSO 5092 - OEM - $32 -
1 set of tires - Yokohama - $520 -
front and rear brakes - ACDelco DuraStop - OEM - $80 -
cut 4 rotors - $40 -
interior dash lights - and steering wheel lights - $10
front motor mount - $125 labor - $35 part = $160 -
made a set of engine torque struts - $20 -
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TOTAL - $887

NOTE - before going cross-country -
I would replace both belts - just because they are the originals -
 
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