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Hot Rod,

Impala has been raised $695 just this model year.
Which was a $1000 more than theyear before.

But has a $3000 rebate!!

I will wait till late August to order my CTS in the hopes there is special financing when the car arrives on the dealer's lot 6-8 weeks later.
 

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Re: Hot Rod,

This is nothing new, when the LS400 came out in the late 80's, it was way underpriced. Once it built a reputation, the price went up. CTS is popular, and if the market will bear the price, then so be it
 

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Re: Hot Rod,

b4z said:
Impala has been raised $695 just this model year.
Which was a $1000 more than theyear before.

But has a $3000 rebate!!

I will wait till late August to order my CTS in the hopes there is special financing when the car arrives on the dealer's lot 6-8 weeks later.
Thats what Buick should do to get more sales. Raise the prices $3000 without saying anything, then advertise a $3000 rebate.
 

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I think the CTS is still a bargain. It was a steal at $29,990. It handles amazingly, looks like nothing else on the road, and it's a Cadillac. I personally don't think anything in the price range can compare.

I think they could get away with raising the base price even more, but they have to do something about the expensive options and limited combinations of options. I'm sure those things turn away plenty of buyers.
 

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Why shouldn't GM raise CTS prices?

Detroit - and particularly GM - sacrificed their 'upscale' nameplates on the altar of mass sales, starting in the mid '60s.

It pretty much destroyed all of them - no one regards Buick as anything special now, Oldsmobile is gone, and Cadillac is a rebuilding project.

And so far as I can tell Wagoner is the first decently capable head GM's had in at least a couple decades.
 
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Why shouldn't GM raise CTS prices?
Because we are in an economic turndown and Caddy hasn't proven itself enough to warrant the price increase. Other cars can be had that can be viewed as better for the same price or less (one to two years old as well). If Caddy can prove its quality is becoming the world standard again, then a price increase could be warranted.
 

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Because we are in an economic turndown and Caddy hasn't proven itself enough to warrant the price increase. Other cars can be had that can be viewed as better for the same price or less (one to two years old as well). If Caddy can prove its quality is becoming the world standard again, then a price increase could be warranted.

Where are the quality probems on the CTS?
 
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Its too new right now and Caddy has had a quality/image problem for decades now. Coming out with some new unproven cars with higher prices may not prove to be a successful move. Marques like Lexus, BMW, Mercedes went for years establishing themselves before moving upmarket. Yeah, Caddy has a long history, but as is the case all to often in life..."what have you done for me lately?"
 

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Im in half agreement. If they can raise the price of the CTS, and still sell their target amount of vehicles, then more power to them. But I do think the SRX and XLR might be coming out overpriced a bit. They should try to build a base, especially with the SRX, before they come out priced with the germans.
 

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Brett said:
This is nothing new, when the LS400 came out in the late 80's, it was way underpriced. Once it built a reputation, the price went up. CTS is popular, and if the market will bear the price, then so be it
Its the same way with the new Q45 and the STS...... You can get a new Q for much less (around 45k fully loaded), and the STS is about 50k..... The new Q is faster, has a better ride, and is overall better (at least IMO ;) ) than the LS430, but it costs 20k less......

The STS is a good value too.... It has about as good of technology as anything else on the market, but because there is not a big demand on them, their not that expensive......

I think that if cadillac raises their prices and can still sell as many cars as before, more power to them...... But, there will be a point where their sales will decline due to overpricing... Then they will be screwed!

I also think the XLR is way overpriced.... What is it, about 70k??? I think if they offered it around 50k, they would have TONS of sales, due to its oodles of technology and other goodies, and still have a great value! How many 2 door convertible caddys do you see driving around (that arent allantes)
 

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Its too new right now and Caddy has had a quality/image problem for decades now. Coming out with some new unproven cars with higher prices may not prove to be a successful move. Marques like Lexus, BMW, Mercedes went for years establishing themselves before moving upmarket. Yeah, Caddy has a long history, but as is the case all to often in life..."what have you done for me lately?"

For the last few years Caddy has been consistently in the top five in owner reported quality. ONLY Lexus has consistently rated higher. Statistically, the quality rap just doesn't cut it anymore. Like em, or hate em, but you can't blame anything on contemporary quality. This isn't 1995. IMHO :boring:
 

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That is a very good point...... Car companies are really starting to build better cars across the board......

I think we can expect this generation of cars to last 200-250k rather than 150-200k!
 
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I know Lutz has been turning GM around, but perception is still king. That, and thousands of people have seen their $30,000 Cadillac Catera in 1998 drop to under $8000 in just 4 years. Thats a damn big depreciation. People might be a little hesitent to drop a lot of money again on an "entry level" Caddy. Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me........
 

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I think the CTS will have a much better resale than did the catera..... It was a good car (I liked them, my grandparents had one a few years back)... I really liked the styling..... But they really never caught on......

The depreciation is good for the used car consumer..... Lots of car for the dollar!
 
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I think it will too. But, will burned Catera buyers be willing to pony up the same amount of money again? Its risky. Also, people have seen the Catera drop like a rock and would naturally be gun-shy about buying a new Caddie that hasn't proven itself yet. But for me, yeah, finding a Catera on Ebay for less than $7000 is cool as hell. I wanted my parents to buy one but my dad settled on a Buick LaSabre.

About 2 more years and you might find a Catera under $5000. I say the Catera would be a great car for the Northstar swap. A shop near San Diego makes sand rails and hot rod RWD conversions for the Northstar, so it is doable. Hey, the Holden Commodore has the LS1 V8 in it so the Northstar would definately fit. Imagine a V8 in a Catera...... :burn:
 

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It would be golden! :eyebrow:
 
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