[BCs71]

Local club member at www.Badbodies.com
This is not my Fleetwood, I couldn't make the track day unfortunately.

But here are his videos vs a 4.3L Caprice and an LT1 Impala

http://www.badbodies.com/videos_misc/freddyVSfleetwoodsteve.mov

http://www.badbodies.com/videos_misc/paulvsFleetwoodsteve.mov

http://www.badbodies.com/videos_misc/BADByron82005fleetandimp.mov

 

[Mahalaleel]

Your cameraman needs him a tripod

 

[thegreatfnr]

links to the video says
"Notice: This domain name expired on 10/19/05 and is pending renewal or deletion"

 

[BCs71]

links to the video says
"Notice: This domain name expired on 10/19/05 and is pending renewal or deletion"

Yep, just happened unfortunately. Working currently to get that fixed. Sorry. :helpless:

 

[BCs71]

Local club member at www.Badbodies.com
This is not my Fleetwood, I couldn't make the track day unfortunately.
But here are his videos vs a 4.3L Caprice and an LT1 Impala
http://www.badbodies.com/videos_misc/freddyVSfleetwoodsteve.mov
http://www.badbodies.com/videos_misc/paulvsFleetwoodsteve.mov
http://www.badbodies.com/videos_misc/BADByron82005fleetandimp.mov

Videos are all working again!!!:cool2: :cool2:

 

[Blackout]

I'm at work and it will take me forever to view the vid's. What kind of times was the Fleetwood running?

 

[CadillacSTS42005]

dude that impala threw beatin to bad my etc wasnt present i woulda smoked him

 

[BCs71]

Steve's Fleetwood has 150+K miles and he just got it at that point. He was pulling low 16 second times on a bone stock Brougham with 2.93 gears.

I wasn't there in person that day, not sure what tire PSI, 60' times, weight savings, weather conditions (was summer so it was warm, maybe humid) he was facing.
Broughams should be mid to high 15 second cars I think when bone stock.

 

[cruzajc1]

let me at em. let me at em

 

[CadillacSTS42005]

Impalas are bad ass cars and because they have the Vette LT1 theres a huge slew of aftermarket parts you can throw on them to increase their performance. Same with the Fleetwood LT1, but the Fleetwood is massivly overweight.

 

[I~LUV~Caddys8792]

Its only 400lbs more than the Impala..I would hardly call that massively overweight, its about .8 seconds slower in the 1/4 mile.

 

[CadillacSTS42005]

.8 seconds in a 1/4 is ALOT of time and therefore alot of extra weight dont you think?

 

[Katshot]

.8 seconds IS a lot but the two are NOT that far apart when comparably geared. I have no problem beating Impala SS's with my FTS.

 

[CadillacSTS42005]

Yea and thats cuz youve done vette mods to your LT1 compareable if the same was done to an Impala SS it would blow your wreath right off your grille. Not tryin to pick a fight believe me im a Caddy fan but the Impala SS modded is one wicked fast competitor.

 

[Blackout]

Yea and thats cuz youve done vette mods to your LT1 compareable if the same was done to an Impala SS it would blow your wreath right off your grille. Not tryin to pick a fight believe me im a Caddy fan but the Impala SS modded is one wicked fast competitor.

a CAI, LT1edit, a new rear, and a exhaust are Vette mods?

 

[Katshot]

Yea and thats cuz youve done vette mods to your LT1 compareable if the same was done to an Impala SS it would blow your wreath right off your grille. Not tryin to pick a fight believe me im a Caddy fan but the Impala SS modded is one wicked fast competitor.

I've done the same mods that many SS owners have done. Believe me, other than the slight difference in weight, the cars are as similar as you can get with respect to possible levels of performance. If you do the same mods to both, they will be VERY close at the track. The BIG difference is how comfortable the drivers are on their way to and from the track!

 

[davesdeville]

With the same rear gear in an Impala vs a Fleetwood it would not be .8 seconds difference in the 1/4 mile. Maybe .3 to .4.

 

[BCs71]

Impalas are bad ass cars and because they have the Vette LT1 theres a huge slew of aftermarket parts you can throw on them to increase their performance. Same with the Fleetwood LT1, but the Fleetwood is massivly overweight.

Don't worry, Kat. He showed his ignorance in his first post that I have quoted here. The Impala has the exact same engine the Fleetwood has. Iron headed LT1 motor that is actually Corvette based (not a vette engine!). The vette has a different cam, aluminum heads, springs, accessory arrangement, etc.

The Fleetwood is an Impala in a tuxedo. Cuff links add a few extra pounds, but they are essentially the same vehicle and still no slouch when comparing to an Impala SS which has bone stock 1/4 mile times of 15.5 - 14.9.
Fleetwoods do about 16.0 - 15.5 bone stock depending on options I'd guesstimate.

 

[CadillacSTS42005]

At what point in time did i display ignorance the LT1 is a CHEVROLET motor desgined for the CORVETTE to replace the out of date 350 TPI motor. It was put into a few rear wheel drive cars due to its power abilitys. I know every well about the differences between the actual Vette Lt1 and the other Lt1 guess what though it is still A CORVETTE BASED LT1. Its is the same block with different internals. Major reason it was detourqued and dehorsed was so as not to have Lt1 camaros and trans ams (which also had a more restrictive exhaust) keeping up with Chevys Fleet car. The same story with the LS1 motor same engine heaver made more restrictive exhaust = F-Bodys which cant (stock at least) keep up with a Vette. Next time you wanna call me igorant make sure you know who you are talking too. Ive worked on LT1's, ive had 2 LT1 cars and the ONLY reason there is an aftermarket for that engine is not because they put it in a boat like the impala or the fleetwood, it was for more hp gains in the Camaro Trans AM and the Vette.

P.S. Kat i was not making an attack on your FTS it really is a nice job would of been nice if you could of convinced GM to make it, the only reason the Impala SS was made was b/c it was an easy job being basically nothing but a Caprice with an Interceptor package and new badgeing.

 

[Katshot]

Thanks for the comments on my baby. I must correct you on one point though. The LT1 in the 'B', 'D' and 'F' bodies was significantly different from the actual "Corvette" LT1. Yes, they were ALL LT1's, and yes the first application was in the Corvette so you theoretically could call the the engine in our cars a "Corvette-based" engine I guess. The most basic difference was the fact that the Corvette LT1 was a 4-bolt main block whereas the others were only 2-bolt mains. We could get into a lengthy discussion about the other differences but I think you get the idea. I think the problem is that many people including divisions within GM called the LT1 in the 'B', 'D' & 'F' body cars "Corvette engines", so it just kind of stuck even though it's not REALLY true.