[zzilla]

Front Caliper V2 to V1

Has anybody tried Using the front 6 piston caliper on the first gen cts v? Wheels and Rotors will also be changed out for clearance . Any Information would be great. Long time reader first time posting
Thank you

 

[Guest]

Re: Front Caliper V2 to V1

I thought about it and never got to researching but i always wondered besides lookf if wed actually get better braking thats even noticeable. I think a good pad change and fluid change with stainless lines would be just as good as just swapping to the 6 pistons.

 

[branland]

Re: Front Caliper V2 to V1

I thought about it and never got to researching but i always wondered besides lookf if wed actually get better braking thats even noticeable. I think a good pad change and fluid change with stainless lines would be just as good as just swapping to the 6 pistons.

I agree with you too. Not sure the V1 has enough tire to make use of the bigger brakes. The V2 is a heavier car, has more power and has a little more tire. It would probably be more cost effective for the V1 to do the dot 4 fluid, pads, lines and 2 piece rotors.

 

[zzilla]

Re: Front Caliper V2 to V1

The car will have larger tires and more HP 650 brakehp na. I have a caliper being shipped to me so we will see if this can work, Maybe just a bracket engineered? who knows

 

[ctsv154]

Re: Front Caliper V2 to V1

Let us know as I am interested as well.

 

[yooper]

Re: Front Caliper V2 to V1

Moving in that direction also. Couldn't find the normv thread on the Z06 rotors but did pick up the ZR1 5 lug racing hubs and would be very interested in either V2 or aftermarket 6 piston caliper/front rotor compatabilty.

 

[wmskateteam]

Re: Front Caliper V2 to V1

you guys are forgetting the greatest part of this swap, 5 lug wheels! good luck
edit: assuming you were doing the hub swap

 

[yooper]

Re: Front Caliper V2 to V1

Yes, they are an extra benefit. The SKF hub bearing is a performance upgrade as is the 6 pot calipers.

you guys are forgetting the greatest part of this swap, 5 lug wheels! good luck
edit: assuming you were doing the hub swap

 

[zzilla]

Re: Front Caliper V2 to V1

There are only 2 companies that sell a direct bolt on for the first gen V. 1) AP Racing kit for the 6 piston front and 4 piston rear are about 5k. 2) ROTORA has 8 piston front 4 piston rear 15in rotors and requires a 19in wheel.and about 5k
The 6 lug hubs are very strong/ and if you are going to track the car you should get a racing wheel(curbs can hurt). Most of the Co. who sells real racing wheels should be able to accomodate you for the 6 lugs. Forgeline/ CCW. etc..as for Rotors "Racing Brake" makes some very good 2 piece rotors for our cars about $900.00 for the front/working on another thread to have them make a rear set.

 

[lunarx]

Re: Front Caliper V2 to V1

Any word if the V2 Caliper bolts on?
Racing Brake said they could provide a 2 piece V2 rotor with a 6-lug (for V1) hat.

 

[TroyFleming]

Re: Front Caliper V2 to V1

They bolt right into the front of the 2004-2007 CTS-V. Same pattern. The only issue is the rotors having 5 lug, which is really not an issue if you speak with manufacturer of those rotors and ask for undrilled blanks. You can then have rotors redrilled to 6 lug pattern quite easily.


25851237 CTSV ROTOR
25912477 CTSV Caliper
25912967 CTSV Caliper
21012386 Copper washer
25940448 Caliper Pin Kit
11570788 Caliper bolts
25940447 CTSV Brake pads
RUS639560 Front only bleeders
RUS639560 Rear only bleeders
RUS639560 Front & Rear bleeders

 

[smbstyle]

Re: Front Caliper V2 to V1

would the stock 18" wheels clear these front 6 piston calipers?

also, can we use the 4 piston bake lines? I'd hate to toss my UUC stainless steel lines.

the complete front caliper swap would cost around $900 plus rotors, which is not bad at ALL. This might be my next mod. We could sell the front calipers for a decent price too, i think the GTO guys do the swap.

 

[lunarx]

Re: Front Caliper V2 to V1

I'm on this Swap.
With the Racing Brake 2 Piece Rotor Group Buy, I'll get the 09 Rotors with 04 Bolt Pattern. :bouncy:

To address question above; I doubt stock 18"s will clear the 09 rotors.

 

[POS VETT]

Re: Front Caliper V2 to V1

According to the information I got, the '09+ CTS-V uses the same PCD that BMW/Corvette/F-body do. Wonder if the rotor center bore is also equal at 72 mm.

 

[lunarx]

Re: Front Caliper V2 to V1

They bolt right into the front of the 2004-2007 CTS-V. Same pattern. The only issue is the rotors having 5 lug, which is really not an issue if you speak with manufacturer of those rotors and ask for undrilled blanks. You can then have rotors redrilled to 6 lug pattern quite easily.


25851237 CTSV ROTOR
25912477 CTSV Caliper
25912967 CTSV Caliper
21012386 Copper washer
25940448 Caliper Pin Kit
11570788 Caliper bolts
25940447 CTSV Brake pads
RUS639560 Front only bleeders
RUS639560 Rear only bleeders
RUS639560 Front & Rear bleeders

This is awesome information. :thumbsup:
Any chance you could let me know what the quantities for each part are?

Thanks!

 

[TroyFleming]

Re: Front Caliper V2 to V1

This is awesome information. :thumbsup:
Any chance you could let me know what the quantities for each part are?

Thanks!

The quanities you need are below I will delete the part numbers not needed because we have CTS-V brakes already in rear. The only issue is getting ahold of them, across the country there is a backlog for these parts because of swaps for CTS-V starting,2010-2011 Camaros,G8 and G8 GXP. Here's a good picture of swap on 2010 Camaro.
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71401


25851237 CTSV ROTOR - 2
25912477 CTSV Caliper - 1
25912967 CTSV Caliper - 1
21012386 Copper washer - 2
25940448 Caliper Pin Kit - 2
11570788 Caliper bolts - 4
25940447 CTSV Brake pads - 1
RUS639560 Front only bleeders - 2

 

[liqidvenom]

Re: Front Caliper V2 to V1

good information here

 

[POS VETT]

Re: Front Caliper V2 to V1

Yikes!

Rotor is $244 ea, caliper is $376 each and pads is $266. The rest is small change. The front brakes alone cost nearly $1.5k, add four very expensive SKF hubs and total will hover around $3k or so. Add wheels/tires (19-inch minimum, correct ?) and optionally do something about the rear brakes.

I'll stick to my 4-pot, it's already more than enough. If anything I'd get better pads and improve venting to front brakes and maybe even add cooling vents for the rear, somehow.

 

[liqidvenom]

Re: Front Caliper V2 to V1

Yikes!

Rotor is $244 ea, caliper is $376 each and pads is $266. The rest is small change. The front brakes alone cost nearly $1.5k, add four very expensive SKF hubs and total will hover around $3k or so. Add wheels/tires (19-inch minimum, correct ?) and optionally do something about the rear brakes.

I'll stick to my 4-pot, it's already more than enough. If anything I'd get better pads and improve venting to front brakes and maybe even add cooling vents for the rear, somehow.

or do like regular people and hit up your local scrap yard or buy used online for the parts... we all dont have buy everything new pockets like you.

 

[POS VETT]

Re: Front Caliper V2 to V1

LOL, it was not my intention to come across as buying everything new. If you had seen my 5-lug conversion, you should see how everything was procured at heavily discounted rates.

Judging that SKF hubs are usually used in road course duty, lightly-used units are very rare. I can see using used calipers and rotors (if you can find them since V2 just came out last year), but pads ?? Junkyards are probably going to sell the 6-piston calipers and rotors at premium prices.

Trust me, those prices I posted, they were discounted already. Go to a GM dealer and get yourself a price quote.