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Yeah, like Bowen said, good work, Tony! :thumbsup:

A couple of ques:

Are the splines out of the tranny the same so the driveshaft change would be just a plug and play?

Seems to me the most difficult thing here is remounting the spring perch, or am I minimizing the gas tank swap, etc.?

At around $5k, this becomes doable. I'd sell both sets of wheels (stockers and the MMs) to help pay for it, and that would open up a whole bunch of cool options for new five luggers. Probably could sell other stuff, too, like my good diff. Hmm-m ... gettin' closer to $4k now and wouldn't have to worry about a couple of post-warranty diff hits to the wallet in the future.

Again, thanks for looking into this Tony! :worship:
 

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... Randy, I'll send an email inquiring about the driveshaft splines on the new piece and see if it will bolt up to our T-56. If not, I think a good driveline shop could adapt it (and for that matter, adapt your current driveshaft instead of buying a whole new one).

The gas tank is a cake walk once the rear cradle is out.
Tony, how hard/difficult would it be to alter the spring perch ... I can't recall what that looks like off hand ... are we talkin' a lot of cutting with a torch and then fitting and welding under there? ... UGH!
 

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... I'd rather spend $5k to get a bulletproof rear-end that will launch hard with no wheelhop than spend $5-$6k on mods. ...

... and I'll keep firing questions their way until they tell me to get lost. :)
You're too late on the mod spending, but on the bright side, that's all I've got left to mod anyway! :D

And I for one certainly appreciate that you're bordering on becoming a pest for these guys/gals. If it helps at all, tell them that they owe us, but I'm sure you've already used that one. :sneaky:

Can't say it enough: THANKS, TONY!!!



... that will be one hell of a group buy! :histeric:
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Some enterprising Caddy dealership with a guy that specializes in selling mods to V owners should put a package together for retrofitting our cars with all the necessary components/mods to do this. Would be a real feather in his cap.

Any suggestions? :rolleyes:
 

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Well, out of the two guys I was thinking about, one has just nominated the other.

Tony, can't say it enough ... thank you, thank you, thank you for looking into the feasibility of doing this. :highfive:
 

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Maybe didn't read this closely enough, but if this is primarily just a diff swap (from a drivetrain standpoint only i.e. excluding the fuel tank), is there any way to provide axle shafts with substantially different torsional rigidity in order to reduce/eliminate wheelhop?

I mean, if the biggest difference is simply going to be the diff, these cars are still gonna hop like a 'roo on 'roids.
 

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Tony;

Let me know if there is anything I can do to help with this VITAL project - as others have said,(to paraphrase) " really no point in other mods when the stock LS6 is already too much for the present diff package etc." I am in Bradenton, FL, retired, and my 05 V is just out of warranty! Time to fix it right!!:lildevil: Seriously, I have done a lot of "wrenchin" on all types of racecars and would welcome helping you and Luke with this project.

Best Wishes;
Lonestranger
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WHOA! Here we go! Tony!

If you guys could get a firm handle on the specific steps needed to do this plus get a firm line on all the parts including part numbers, etc, ... enough to do an FAQ-worthy set of instructions, this would be very well-received. Seriously, though, it would be great to refine this conceptual remedy into a concrete set of steps and bill of materials to do this. Lonestranger is making a great offer with his assistance.

THIS PROJECT L-L-L-I-I-I-V-V-E-E-S-S !!!
 

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Just like DoubleMint gum, you're both right.

Rey did hit upon one interesting point, and that is it would reasonably inexpensive do one halfshaft on a V1. Which one would be an issue (if it even really mattered), and the question wuld be how much would there be to gain ... a 2% reduction in WH (and associated improvement in the longevity of the diff) or would there be an 80% reduction. If it showed minimal improvement, then we'd know and focus elsewhere. If there was a dramatic improvement, then I'd think the market might be a couple dozen or maybe more (depending on price, of course). The experiment assessing the proposed "fix" would have to be controlled: same vehicle, same tires/pressures, same shocks, same pavement, same temps, same, same, same ... just different halfshaft.
 

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Hey, ctsv154, any chance you can put those ideas of yours into a step-wise series of schematic drawings for an old brain like mine? In particular, can you make it such that even I (not having the cradle and the associated links committed to memory) can visualize the wind up of torque before the tires break loose and the torsional force/stress buildup around the various suspension components and their attachment points?

I really like that very concise article of heavy's ... well explained, IMHO. Taking that and applying it visually to the V would greatly assist us aging engineers comprehend things without the need to crawl back under the car. :cool:
 

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... The more I look at it the more I wonder. The rest of the rear seems to be really heavy duty and then there is the weak looking aluminum differential, what weren't they thinking.
I bet the engineers were either trying to appease the bookkeepers, or the bookkeepers themselves spec'd the diff. :rolleyes:
 
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