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I can think of several unmentionable comments to write, but that would be too easy.

I wonder how many dealerships and lending institutions reference Red Book for vehicle value? (That was sarcasm)
I also wonder how many people walk into the new car section of a Cadillac dealer wanting to know the depreciation rate of the car they plan to purchase or lease? Most don't care while the few that do, are buying something else, but rest assured, not Lexus or Infinity either.

If I had not owned Cadillac's with a 4.9L engine, I would assume they are underpowered according to the article. Everyone who has driven one of my 4.9L's has made the comment about how "peppy" the response was to the slightest throttle.

Everybody is entitled to an opinion, but Consumers Reports is NOT the ultimate guide to quality. They base their good/bad recommendations on consumer opinion of all things. That would be the same as using the Cadillac forums to denounce the NorthStar. I don't buy it at all.
 

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Wow, they make the car sound like it's nothing special. I guess the person doing the "reviewing" from other peoples comments didn't have the opportunity to spend some time with the cars. You have to admit though, the pricy parts and the common problems he talks about are pretty accurate. On the other hand, I would still take the course of buying one again if I had to, I love my Caddy. :2thumbs: :thumbsup: :dance:
 

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Wow, they make the car sound like it's nothing special. I guess the person doing the "reviewing" from other peoples comments didn't have the opportunity to spend some time with the cars. You have to admit though, the pricy parts and the common problems he talks about are pretty accurate. On the other hand, I would still take the course of buying one again if I had to, I love my Caddy. :2thumbs: :thumbsup: :dance:
There was nothing "pretty accurate" about that article. The problems written about are only common to this forum, not the real world where there are literally thousands of vehicles that do "not" experience high repair costs. Think about it! How long can you let a BMW, Lexus, or Mecedes go without proper maintenance? Do you really think they are less expensive to repair? Why on any given day, should you visit any of the aforementioned brand dealers, are the service bays full? Do you suppose it is just for an oil change or battery charge? I seriously doubt it. Do they build and sell as many cars (each brand) as Cadillac? NO! Does it make sense that there are more broken Cadillac's as opposed to broken Mercedes? Yes! The odds are in their favor.

This is not a flame post, but I get really "pissed" when the media misleads consumers into what they perceive is true, when all along they never did their homework before going to print.
 

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This article is a real trip. It seems to state that if you wait you can get a $35 to $40,000 price break on a Caddy. It also gives the car a subpar rating. It mentions the site but is that advantagist to Cadillac considering most people come here trying to fix a problem?
 

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91TexasSeville said:
There was nothing "pretty accurate" about that article. The problems written about are only common to this forum, not the real world where there are literally thousands of vehicles that do "not" experience high repair costs.
Again, I guess that I was wrong. I had to have my N* rebuilt due to blown headgaskets, I have the shake at 65, so on and so forth. The N* was deffinetly talked about in the article. Yes, other cars have expensive parts, but Cadillac is one of them. Quit busting my balls by arguing with stuff that I say.
 

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Damn it, Chris (author).
The LS400 barely changed in its decade of production, along with the Miata and MB C, E, and S-class. If you get the looks right the first time, why screw it up? Weak argument.

Otherwise, I dont own a Caddy so I cant say anything about its reliability.
 

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Damn it, Chris (author).
The LS400 barely changed in its decade of production, along with the Miata and MB C, E, and S-class. If you get the looks right the first time, why screw it up? Weak argument.

Otherwise, I dont own a Caddy so I cant say anything about its reliability.
The problem with the Seville redesign was that it was a high-volume car (much moreso than the M-Bs), which it hurt it because it seemed like everyone had one. I remember a lot of guys wondering whether or not it had actually been updated it looked so similar. The same thing is happening right now with Jaguar's XJ. It looks exactly like the previous generation, and sales are hurting. No one knows you've got a new one. Why spend all that cash?
 

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The problem with the Seville redesign was that it was a high-volume car (much moreso than the M-Bs), which it hurt it because it seemed like everyone had one. I remember a lot of guys wondering whether or not it had actually been updated it looked so similar. The same thing is happening right now with Jaguar's XJ. It looks exactly like the previous generation, and sales are hurting. No one knows you've got a new one. Why spend all that cash?
I guess it all depends on which way you perceive the subtle changes.
For some new car buyers the difference between model years goes unnoticed which is to say they are totally unaware or don't care. This type of buyer just wants the car because they like it, or Dr. Fred has one and he likes his. Silly reasons, I know, but believe me, they are out there.

Former owners of the same basic design may wish only to renew their car and warranty. The old one ran great, but has lots of miles now, and wow, the dealer is allowing me way more for my car than I thought it was worth! I know, but that happens too.

I must agree that keeping the same body style does not keep the design fresh over the years, but again, if it is really good, why mess with it?
 

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Again, I guess that I was wrong. I had to have my N* rebuilt due to blown headgaskets, I have the shake at 65, so on and so forth. The N* was deffinetly talked about in the article. Yes, other cars have expensive parts, but Cadillac is one of them. Quit busting my balls by arguing with stuff that I say.
Look, I'm not out to harass you or anyone else. Just write something factual, not some dreamy interpretation of what you consider true. I made it very clear that I was not flaming your post.

Yes, you experienced some problems with your 7 year old car, with how many miles? Did you buy it new? Did you have it serviced according to the manfacturer's schedule? If you bought it used, did you get all the maintenance history and know exactly what you were buying? You never mentioned this in your post which stated "they were pretty accurate". How many miles between scheduled maintenance did the drivablity problems start? How soon after they were noticed were they corrected? Nobody knows better than you.

It costs nothing to join this forum. If you support it, which you do, then why make an erroneous blanket statement about Cadillac drawing only from your experience and that of other forum members with a similar problem? That is absurd and not anywhere near factual.
 

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Look, I'm not out to harass you or anyone else. Just write something factual, not some dreamy interpretation of what you consider true. I made it very clear that I was not flaming your post.

Yes, you experienced some problems with your 7 year old car, with how many miles? Did you buy it new? Did you have it serviced according to the manfacturer's schedule? If you bought it used, did you get all the maintenance history and know exactly what you were buying? You never mentioned this in your post which stated "they were pretty accurate". How many miles between scheduled maintenance did the drivablity problems start? How soon after they were noticed were they corrected? Nobody knows better than you.

It costs nothing to join this forum. If you support it, which you do, then why make an erroneous blanket statement about Cadillac drawing only from your experience and that of other forum members with a similar problem? That is absurd and not anywhere near factual.
Wow, take your panties out of their twist dude. I don't have all the time in the world to list everything about the car. You say write something factual, I did, my car had a couple of those mentioned problems. I've mentioned in past posts all of those things. Yes, I bought it used, I bought it at 44K miles. I have followed everything to the T. At 49K, all the sudden, the head gasket gave me my major problem... it was fixed at 49,500 miles. I did not say a "blanket statement", do the search about headgaskets in this forum, you find alot of people witht he same or similar problems, so, the headgaskets ARE known to give the Cadillacs problems. Hey I love Cadillac, I would redo my buy for one again in a heartbeat, all I'm saying is, if you want to correct something I say, don't come off as a smart a$$ when you do it and I won't care.
 

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Well, if we take this article as the whole truth, we would all be selling our Caddies and buying . . . a Buick? I think not. this seemed like a highly prejudiced article. I wonder what this guy has against Cadillac? It is obvious he does not like the marquee at all. I do not see the cadillac garage here full of STS's, nor have I had any problems with my '01.

But then, the guy is Canadian. Maybe he frostbit his brain. Oops, was I a little politically incorrect? Oh, I am sooooooo sorrry if that offended anyone.
http://bigdaddy.blog-city.com
 

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91TexasSeville said:
I must agree that keeping the same body style does not keep the design fresh over the years, but again, if it is really good, why mess with it?
Because people complain about the styling on a model becoming too boring, etc. Look at the Lincoln LS....it was just cancelled and that design basically did not change since the introduction in 1999. Sales eventually stagnated and it was killed. While the Seville is an awsome car, there will always be people that complain the styling has become "long in the tooth" or "too boring, etc."
 

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the guy is Canadian. Maybe he frostbit his brain. Oops, was I a little politically incorrect? Oh, I am sooooooo sorrry if that offended anyone.
http://bigdaddy.blog-city.com
Oh no, the guy is Canadian and he has an opinion......:suspense:

Can you please tell me how your political link relates to someones opinion of an automobile??
 

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Just get a look at the kid who wrote the article, not my ideal of a seasoned veteran automotive analyst. He was probably in grade school when the 92 Seville came out.
Hmmmm, I was 18 when I drove a 1969 Charger in 1985. Does that mean I can form NO OPINION of a 1969 Dodge Charger? I was 2 years old when that car was made..........

Not every automotive journalist will paint a rosy picture of every car we drive, and that is nothing to be upset about..we have to be able to take the "criticism" with the "good."
 
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