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Unable to adjust clock--2008 STS wi Navigation

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#1 ·
The clock adjust screen will come up after touching and holding for a couple seconds the clock area on the screen but none of the adjusting "buttons" are functional.

This is happening after an issue last evening where the car would not start until after disconnecting and reconnecting the battery.

Even then I had to put the keyless start switch in accessory mode first and then was able to start the car.

Any ideas on the clock adjust issue as well as what may have caused the "no start" issue. Thanks in advance for any help.
 
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#903 ·
I have seen it on the dealers screen, but it is a different bulletin number. All I saw was bits and pieces as the shop foreman scrolled up and down the screen. Much of it was screen shots that were related to non-STS nav radios. I haven't read it so I can't speak to what the content actually is. All I can really confirm is that it was dated November 15, 2019.
 
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#905 ·
Hi guys,

last weekend I unintentionally looked at the upper right corner of my navigation screen and I could not believe what I saw:

575073


Without changing anything I can see the time and can now adjust it. Since I got the car in February this year, it always displayed "--:--"
This miracle happened in Germany.

Hope you get your clocks working again soon.

Cheers!
 
#907 · (Edited)
moppes said:
Without changing anything I can see the time and can now adjust it. Since I got the car in February this year, it always displayed "--:--"
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...a little bit German...
@moppes :
...das die Uhrzeit „von selbst“ wiederkommen kann ist in diesem Thread mehrfach erwähnt...aber schau mal nach, ob Dein Datum wieder korrekt ist/angezeigt wird...;)
...daran hapert es in der Regel...das Grund-Problem bleibt meistens bestehen ohne einen Software/Firmware-Fix...
 
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#917 · (Edited)
Hello,

There is no firmware update for the (North American/Domestic) 2005-07 radios. If you read back over the past several pages of posts, there is additional information about this.

Any STS shipped to European countries has different software than those in North America. As far as I know, this update is only intended for radios with the YQ4 RPO. Export/European cars will have the YQ6 radio. When I looked at the build sheet for your VIN, you do have the YQ6 option.

Owners who have the clock problem outside of the Americas need to contact their GM dealer to determine if a fix is or will be made available.
 
#927 ·
So, when my clock magically came back to life last summer, I was watching to see how fast the GPS would get a lock. I found out it was barely, if at all, any quicker than before the clock reappeared. Now that I have the fix, the GPS gets a lock quickly, sometimes getting it before I can click "I agree" on the map screen.
 
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#928 ·
Too Fast said:
So, when my clock magically came back to life last summer, I was watching to see how fast the GPS would get a lock. I found out it was barely, if at all, any quicker than before the clock reappeared. Now that I have the fix, the GPS gets a lock quickly, sometimes getting it before I can click "I agree" on the map screen.
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That's probably because of the incorrect date. Satellites are at known places in the sky based on date and time. GPS receivers know which ones to look for (which channel to look for) at any given time, but if they don't know the correct date, there will be problems.

That's why it's too early to say if the 05-07s will work properly next summer besides being able to set the clock.
 
#935 · (Edited)
...in German...
@Hans Schinwald :
...es ist der Unterschied zwischen Domestic-Markt Modellen, also US/Kanada Fahrzeugen und den Exportmodellen mit (europäischer) Spezifikation/Ausstattung...es gibt nämlich sehr viele Unterschiede in der Ausstattung und Ausgestaltung der Fahrzeuge für die jeweiligen Märkte...

YQ4 ist für die amerikanischen Radiofrequenzen ausgestaltet und hat Satelliten-Radio-Empfang für die amerikanischen Satelittenradioprogramme, welche es in Europa nicht gibt...
YQ6 ist das Radio/Entertainment-System für den europäischen Markt, Empfang entsprechender europäischer „gerader“ und „ungerader“ Radiofrequenzen. Es ist ausgestattet/programmiert mit einem TV Modul für den Empfang alter, antennenbasierter, analoger europäischer Fernsehprogramme...diese Ausstattungsmöglichkeit gab es nie für den US/Kanada-Markt...

...gleiches gilt übrigens auch für die Abspielbarkeit von Film-DVDs...entsprechender Länder/Regionalcode je nach Markt...wie bei jedem normalen und PC DVD Player...

...und so gibts noch viele kleine Unterschiede...die Europa-Modelle haben einige Extras, die es in den USA nie gab...und umgekehrt...

...das hier angebotene Software/Firmware-Update ist nur für Fahrzeuge mit dem neueren Radio ab 2008 geeignet...das bringt hier, wie man im ganzen Thread nachlesen kann, nichts für Modelle von 2005-2007...auch nichts für Fahrzeuge für den US/Kanada Markt...

...Du kannst gerne versuchen, das Update auf Dein Radio zu spielen, geh davon aus das es normalerweise wird es nicht funktionieren wird, weil das Update nicht für die älteren 2005-2007er Radios entwickelt wurde...aber wer weiss...;)
...bestenfalls bricht entweder die Installation dann ab...oder schlimmstenfalls beschädigt es das ganze Radio und macht es unbrauchbar...
...die Basis der 2005-2007er Radios YQ4 und YQ6 ist zwar insofern gleich, da es seinerzeit mal ein Update aus 2 CDs gab, damit neuere Navigations-DVDs ab 2008 funktionieren und kleinere Fehler behoben wurden...dieses GM Update funktionierte für beide Märkte/Radio-Versionen...hat aber eben nichts mit dem derzeitigen Problem zu tun...

...die GM Händler hier in Europa haben keine Lösung für das aktuelle Problem bei Europa/Export-Modellen...ob die sehr wenigen existierenden 2008 und 2009er Europa-Modelle bei Markteinführung seinerzeit auch ein komplett neues Radio bekommen haben wie beim Modelljahrwechsel in den USA/Kanada oder das alte EU Radio weiter verwendet wurde, weiss ich momentan nicht...
...man könnte natürlich versuchen, für ein paar tausend Euro ein komplett neues Radio vom 2008/2009er Europa-Modell zu kaufen (sofern damals hier tatsächlich für die EU ein neuer Typ des Radios verbaut wurde) und es zu wechseln...um dann dort das hier angebotene Update aufzuspielen...;)
 
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#939 ·
I called the dealership. After looking it up, they did say there was a bulletin. It discussed loosing the clock after battery power was removed. Repair involved new software. So they did confirm a bulletin is out there (although I did not get a bulletin number). They also stated that there would be a $160 service fee.
So with that in mind, I asking you guys if you can send me the "fix" via PM or email. Just let me know, for it would be greatly appreciated!
 
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#940 ·
I did the "fix" and got the clock working again. Only trouble is it wants to move forward an hour after a couple days of working correctly. This is also what it did prior to when it quit working after battery replacement a year or so ago. The GPS works fine.
Wondering if anyone might know the cause and a fix. It's as if it keeps reverting to DST.
 
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#959 ·
I decided to try the fix today and it works on my 2009 STS. Thanks to Oldgeek and Densonavi for the file and information. As a Macintosh user, I used the free Burn program and used the Data option, then Mac+PC to burn the file to CD-R. Thanks again to Densonavi for getting the information out there since it was all new to me after my battery went dead last week.
 
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#977 ·
JGhost67 said:
JKELDO - Please send to me as well. 2007 STS-V.
Jim.Armagost@gmail.com
Thank you in advance!
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I don't know if you had time to go back and read the whole thread, but there is no fix for the 2005-07 STS models as the original source code could not be located. The time is supposed to eventually correct next year in August as I recall but the date will still be wrong. Of course, a fix is possible if they find the code but for now, those models do not have a fix. Sorry to let you know.
 
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