[bosshogg66]

I have gone to Advance and they checked the Battery, Starter and Alternator. All of those was good. In the mornings I have to turn the key several times to get the car to start. Once the car is warm it will crank right up once I have driven it. I did replace the fuel pump last weekend. Does anyone have an idea what is wrong? I did have to filled the coolant resevoir up this weekend with coolant.

 

[calvin ar]

did problem start before or after fuel pump replacement

 

[bosshogg66]

Calvin it started before. It was the only code that came up and I had other signs that indicated the fuel pump had to be replaced. ie the sensor was skipping so I knew it had to be replaced.

 

[calvin ar]

did you do the fuel filter? how are you plug wires mine go all the time and can cause rough idle and hard starts. did you check the pressure after replacing the fuel pump I went through 3 before I got one that worked and all where new.

 

[bosshogg66]

Yea I replaced the fuel filter beside the rear tire. What do you mean by plug wires? How do you check the pressure after the fuel pump has been replaced?

 

[calvin ar]

spark plug wires they can get burnt where come in contact with metal aka the engine block will leave white make on wire. to test fuel pressure you have to hook a gauge the the shrater valve witch is on the fuel rail. if this is a N* does it skip on start up or is there smoke when first starting car?

 

[Ranger]

Any stored DTC's?

'94 Deville has a 4.9 engine. Devilles didn't get the Northstar until '96.

 

[calvin ar]

ok with 4.9 still check the plug wires and fuel pressure and see if there is fluid in the fuel pressure regulator, also see if the throttle control motor is functioning(it will move periodically)

 

[bosshogg66]

Calvin I will check the spark plug wires this weekend also the fuel pressure rail. When I start the car it skips on 3 tries then on the 4 try cranks up. Ranger the last time I checked the codes. The indication was for me to replaced the fuel pump. I will check the codes when I get off work today. Yes I have a 4.9 also.

 

[calvin ar]

check battery connections and grounds. but sounds to me like it is the throttle position motor.these are problematic in mine don it 5 x in 180000

 

[bosshogg66]

Calvin what is the level of difficulty to replace the throttle position motor?

 

[calvin ar]

easy if you take off the throttle body(TB) not so much if it is in place so I take off the TB clean it and the clean or check the egr passages(little tubes under throttle body) you need a torque wrench to put TB back on a harbor freight will do and make sure you use new gasket and clean the surfaces. it can be done w/o removal of TB but requires more patience and a relly small star bit for clearance. if TB never removed and cleaned before it is just a good Idea to do it this will improve throttle response also.

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before that is there eny codes on this car

 

[bosshogg66]

When I get off today. I will do a code check and post the codes up later.

 

[Ranger]

Next time you go to start it, crack the throttle ever so slightly with you foot and see if it starts right up. If so, it's the ISC motor.

 

[bosshogg66]

I ran the code P020 Open Fuel Pump Circuit, how do I correct the issue?

 

[calvin ar]

I would say check the relay not sure how w/o a diagram of it.
also check your fuel pump electrical connection mabey do this first.
was this code there before you did the pump ?

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[bosshogg66]

The same code before/after I will check the relay this weekend.