Does anyone know where I can get ahold of this video? I did a search but can't seem to remember where I saw it. I tried Top Gear's site but didn't see older videos like that. Or if someone has it on their PC and wouldn't mind sending it to me I'd appreciate it. If so PM me. Thanks in advance.
Top Gear Video V vs. Audi S4
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I've been looking for the same thing, I hear the outcome is quite pleasing :lildevil:. Let's make this publicly accessible whenever (and whoever) gets it. :2thumbs:
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Unbelievable. :thehand: It does everything they wanted it to do, better than they expected it could and they still find any reason they can to disparage it because it comes from the "colonies". I think you're right, they must be Frenchmen in disguise. :farting:
At the very least it's satisfying to say "WE colonial types" have never lost a war to the French...... :gun2:Battle of Hastings anyone???:rant2: $#&*! the Queen.
At the very least it's satisfying to say "WE colonial types" have never lost a war to the French...... :gun2:Battle of Hastings anyone???:rant2: $#&*! the Queen.
Yeah, they were looking for things wrong to say about the V. After it kicked the S4s ass on the track they had to resort to its price 45,000 pounds ($90k). But how many British cars do you see in the US? A few Jags and Range Rovers but nothing much. Could it be because of their reputation as having poor reliabiiity or just boring.
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Awesome!
And I don't know, as an avid Top Gear viewer, V owner, everything else owner and frequent visitor to the road course(not the drag strip). I have to say they are spot on with their comments of that car for that market.
Overpriced? Over there, it is a $45K Pounds(check the conversion rate on that guys). That will buy you some seriouse hardware. That is $79,000 USD for those that don't know the conversion rate.
Performance? It swats the S4 with Stig at the wheel who is a proffessional and even forces him to go 4 wheels of, this is an awesome outcome and a major embarrasment for the S4!
Time, it is obviously raining so no one is too worried about that.
Annoying beeps? Yup, the car has plenty of those!
Too big? I have always thought the V would be the PERFECT muscle sedan if it was only 15% smaller and 200lbs lighter. But it depneds on what you compare it to. In reality, it is stuck an a grey area between a small and a mid-size sedan(S4 v. S6, M3 v. M5 or C55 v. E55 ) making it tough to compare. Do you judge it against the M3 and S4 which it will kill or the M5 and E55 which still makes the V a value but also makes it look cheap which compared to the M5 and E55 it is.
Rough around the edges? Certainly, which is what makes this car so much fun!
Feels cheap? You bet, especially when compared with other cars over there that are $45K Pounds.
Anyway, the V is awesome, it is rough around the edges, it has its issues and is cheap in some areas. If they were wrong, we wouldn't be adding UUC shifters, Stealth V tunes, looking for a good suspension and blowing differentials to shreads every 5 minutes. :hmm:
Honest review of an awesome car!
And I don't know, as an avid Top Gear viewer, V owner, everything else owner and frequent visitor to the road course(not the drag strip). I have to say they are spot on with their comments of that car for that market.
Overpriced? Over there, it is a $45K Pounds(check the conversion rate on that guys). That will buy you some seriouse hardware. That is $79,000 USD for those that don't know the conversion rate.
Performance? It swats the S4 with Stig at the wheel who is a proffessional and even forces him to go 4 wheels of, this is an awesome outcome and a major embarrasment for the S4!
Time, it is obviously raining so no one is too worried about that.
Annoying beeps? Yup, the car has plenty of those!
Too big? I have always thought the V would be the PERFECT muscle sedan if it was only 15% smaller and 200lbs lighter. But it depneds on what you compare it to. In reality, it is stuck an a grey area between a small and a mid-size sedan(S4 v. S6, M3 v. M5 or C55 v. E55 ) making it tough to compare. Do you judge it against the M3 and S4 which it will kill or the M5 and E55 which still makes the V a value but also makes it look cheap which compared to the M5 and E55 it is.
Rough around the edges? Certainly, which is what makes this car so much fun!
Feels cheap? You bet, especially when compared with other cars over there that are $45K Pounds.
Anyway, the V is awesome, it is rough around the edges, it has its issues and is cheap in some areas. If they were wrong, we wouldn't be adding UUC shifters, Stealth V tunes, looking for a good suspension and blowing differentials to shreads every 5 minutes. :hmm:
Honest review of an awesome car!
Again, I think you all are missing the point. They LOVED the performance, what they had a problem with was the styling and "cheap" overall feel of the car. Combine that with the sticker price and they come to the same conclusion athat many others have. Take away the Chevy power and the well tuned suspension and you're left with a cheap over-priced car.
I guess the CTS-V could be compared to cars like the EVO or STi. Cheap cars that the manufacturer has hot-rodded.
Personally, I agree with everything they said. How can you NOT be impressed with the performance of the CTS-V but.....I think the interior is cheap feeling and uninspiring, and the exterior is not much better. Add to that a terrible shifter and a couple other smaller idiocyncracies, and you basically have to agree with the Top Gear guys unless you're unable to be objective about the car.
I guess the CTS-V could be compared to cars like the EVO or STi. Cheap cars that the manufacturer has hot-rodded.
Personally, I agree with everything they said. How can you NOT be impressed with the performance of the CTS-V but.....I think the interior is cheap feeling and uninspiring, and the exterior is not much better. Add to that a terrible shifter and a couple other smaller idiocyncracies, and you basically have to agree with the Top Gear guys unless you're unable to be objective about the car.
Oh yah, if these jerks are anything they are honest. Give me a break!:thepan:Blacksport350 said:
Did you see the dribble they did on the C6? The video on that was a carbon copy on the review on the "V", except they purposely over drove the C6. They had it drifting and slidding at every turn to get the slowest lap times possible. Hell, I could of got better lap times.... but then again if I was fair and honest like these guy I wouldn't want to do that, would I?:helpless:
What was bad? The objective stuff was all there. The performance was undeniable. It beat their European "benchmark" car even with their Top Gun driver driving it. The only things they trashed were mainly the "subjective" stuff like styling and quality "feel".
I thought it was a terrific review. I was very impressed with the performance on the track, vs. the S4.
I do think the interior is less than it needs to be, and it sounds like the shifter may be sloppy, and someone was clearly sleeping regarding the parking brake, but it still has to be the best performance sedan for the money.
Hopefully GM will fix some of the obvious stuff before I get my nickels saved. I'm almost afraid to do a test drive!
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I do think the interior is less than it needs to be, and it sounds like the shifter may be sloppy, and someone was clearly sleeping regarding the parking brake, but it still has to be the best performance sedan for the money.
Hopefully GM will fix some of the obvious stuff before I get my nickels saved. I'm almost afraid to do a test drive!
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Even thought they have an obvious bias against American cars the V couldn't be denied; its performance around the track coupled with its power shined through.
And yes it does need help with its interior and if I wa spaying almost 80,000 dollars I would complain but hey thats just an american way of overcharging the brits hahahahahahahahahahahaha
And yes it does need help with its interior and if I wa spaying almost 80,000 dollars I would complain but hey thats just an american way of overcharging the brits hahahahahahahahahahahaha
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Pure comedy.
To their credit, they do admit to it outperforming the S4. Unfortunately, that seems to be the only bit of praise they allow.
Sure, the Monaro can be had with the same powertrain at a lower price, but it's also short two doors, now isn't it? If someone wants a sports coupe of course there are many other choices, but for those of us who prefer "saloons" though...
The obviously absurd fast lap in the rain was the perfect ending.
I do like Top Gear. It's entertaining and I have a fetish for english accents I suppose... but even the europeans will admit that they like to tear apart American cars and play on american car stereotypes (some admittedly well deserved). No surprise then and actually a good review if you are familiar with the source.
To their credit, they do admit to it outperforming the S4. Unfortunately, that seems to be the only bit of praise they allow.
Sure, the Monaro can be had with the same powertrain at a lower price, but it's also short two doors, now isn't it? If someone wants a sports coupe of course there are many other choices, but for those of us who prefer "saloons" though...
The obviously absurd fast lap in the rain was the perfect ending.
I do like Top Gear. It's entertaining and I have a fetish for english accents I suppose... but even the europeans will admit that they like to tear apart American cars and play on american car stereotypes (some admittedly well deserved). No surprise then and actually a good review if you are familiar with the source.
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