[rick99601]

im looking to buy a 1999 seville sts with 143,000 miles on the clock. the car is overall in great shape, looks almost new. now seeing all of you own cadillacs im just wondering if you think it has too many miles. any input would be appreciated.

-thanks

 

[AlBundy]

How much $$$ are we talking about.

 

[rick99601]

i have a 2000 mustang gt coupe right now with 66,000 on it and the dealership im at is willing to do an even trade. but it has $7,950 on the price tag. i wouldnt have it for more than 40 or 50 thousand. so most likely will anything big go wrong?

 

[AlBundy]

A 99STS with that amount of miles is in no way a even trade.

 

[thu]

I'd shop around some more. Take a look on the internet (e.g. www.cars.com) and see how other, similar cars across the country are priced.

It took me a whole month to find my STS.

You can also go to www.kbb.com and see how the two cars are priced.

Kelly's Blue Book says that trade in for the STS is $7275 and retail is almost $12,000.

For the Mustang, trade in is $8,050 and private party sale price is almost $10,000

 

[rick99601]

so $7,950 for the seville is overpriced?

 

[Ranger]

I have been told buy people in the buisness not to put too much faith in KBB. Don't know where they get their information from. NADA on the other hand gets their prices from actual dealer sales every month and from what I have seen is much closer to dealers "little black book" (that we will never see).

 

[rick99601]

the only reason i would do an even trade is because my mustang has some things wrong with it. about a month ago i was at a construction site doing donuts and i spun around and hit the curb, breaking my bumper mount. so thats broken. and the electrical in it is sorta messed up too. my remote trunk release doesnt work, neither do my map lights or vanity mirror lights. also it has a lot of big dents and scratches. so i would only get prolly $8,000 for it, this time of year. so is $7950 a bad price?

 

[rick99601]

so i was gonna say if he'll pay the taxes and such ill do it

 

[thu]

Think you may want to try to sell it youself and pocket the $2000 difference?

How much looking around for an STS have you done? Don't make the mistake of looking only at a couple of dealers or sticking to just one area. Shop around. I got my STS 100 miles away from where I live and had it delivered to me! The Internet Rules!

I gave you the Kelly Blue Book values just to give you a ballpark. I'll have to agree that they do not provide the best values.

As for the NADA values, you can simply call your bank or Credit Union and ask what the NADA values are for both cars (since they have the NADA books). Simple as that!!!!!

I have to warn you about trading in *anything* to a dealer. You'll take a bath unless the guy you deal with somehow doesn't know what he's doing.

 

[kevinrea]

an american car with that many miles., is a lot of miles.. if it were let's say.., a mercedes...,, no problem.

 

[Ranger]

Why would you assume that 143K on an american car is a lot but not on a German car? There are many posts here as well as caddyinfo of people with 2,3, and one with 400K on them and still running strong.

 

[Patrick7997]

I agree totally, Ranger.

Does Mercedes have some mystical "never need repair" compound that it's soaked in?? I think not....

:cookoo:

GM has been VERY good to me....

 

[thu]

Nice thing about an American car vs Foreign is that the American cars are relatively inexpensive to fix. Foreign makes are, almost by rule, expensive to fix.

I used this fact to my advantage to drive my 1985 Deville to 238,000 miles and my 1993 Deville to 298,000 miles. The cost of the stuff I had to fix (some I did myself, others I took to a reputable garage) was reasonable and very affordable. Had I owned foreign makes, it would have been much, much more expensive.

In 1996, I bought a 1980 Mercedes 300SD (diesel) for my Dad. Man, that sucker was expensive to maintain. When little things broke, you paid through the nose to get them fixed. In the end (in 2001), the engine couldn't keep its compression and I convinced my dad to just get rid of it or it was going to continue to be a money pit.

 

[Ranger]

I used this fact to my advantage to drive my 1985 Deville to 238,000 miles and my 1993 Deville to 298,000 miles.

In 1996, I bought a 1980 Mercedes 300SD (diesel) for my Dad.
In the end (in 2001), the engine couldn't keep its compression and I convinced my dad to just get rid of it or it was going to continue to be a money pit.

The defense rests.