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Now, not saying that ALL SUV and truck owners are stupid. Read the title carefully. If you're not stupid, than this message isn't for you...

It's snowing pretty hard here on Long Island (NY) - and who is it that's swirling around all over the road doing 360's and sliding backwards down ramps? Is it the ricers? Is it the kids who just started driving? No. It's the over-confident truck drivers who think their crap is invincible..

The roads are extremely terrible here. There's only a few inches on the ground but for some reason or other, it's very, very slippery - way more than it usually is with this small amount of snow. I usually fly through with no problem doing 60 mph - not today. I had to do 30 like everyone else.. Everyone else but the stupid people driving trucks..

To the people who buy trucks and retain their brain functions, I commend you. It's like being the toughest kid in class without being a bully...

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well put sal
I have a suburban and f250 4door but it scares me more to drive the f250 than the cadillac. Have you guys experimented with cad's traction control in the snow. It was amazing. Of course this was done in the empty parking lot at a low speed but cad's traction control as you all know is very aggressive but it does the job very well keeping the car straight as possible and prevent it from spinning out.
In the other hand suburban... all i can say is that i can drift in the suburban in a dry weather. :D
 

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I moved from Chicago to Tampa last July and I couldnt be happier to be missing the snow...my sls was great in the snow my vette SUCKED... not that i would ecpect a vette to do all that well...but anyway it is cloudy down here today but its also 70 degrees:p
 

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yea i still see them all over the place...although you can save a few grand down here and just buy the rwd versions since you dont need the traction for snow...plus you should get a little more performance out of the rwd version.
 

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oh and im coming to new york on vacation sometime in march so try and arrange some nice weather please
 

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Man soccer moms and drunk drivers in SUV's make me mad. I You may be able to go like hell in the snow n ice... but that's a false sense of security because you cannot stop any better than the firebird in front of you going 15mph.
 

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The light SUVs (the nissan pathfinder comes to mind first), are the most pointless vehicles on the road. They are just wagons raised up. They are more prone to toppling, because they are lighter. Even with 4wd they cant go through snow, because they have a 6cy and are too light. Also, they dont stop like you would think a SUV should. My tahoe stops great on ice, but that is because it is a 6000 lb vehicle with a huge engine. That is the way SUVs are supposed to be: big and heavy. People would be much safer in wagons then they would be in light SUVs.

I was thinking, and a parachute would be more effective for ice stopping for light SUVs.
 

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4WD vehicles give many a sense of false security. I'm no expert, but I use the transmission to brake on slick surfaces. Using the brakes on slick surfaces increases the chance of loss of traction. Even antilock brakes will cause a vehicle to slide on ice.

I guess the soccer mommies and other idiots that have SUV's and AWD vehicles are too cool to read the owners manual or test the water before they dive in.

Lets be careful out there! I bet there turn signals don't work either.
 

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I also like to use the tranny to stop, but sometimes i get to sliding and that is not exactly on the top of my list of things to do. The way i see it, the heavier the vehicle, the easier it is to stop, with or without antilocks.
 

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thing about awd/4wd vs 2wd
it is easier to get out of a sliding/spinout in 4wd than 2wd IF YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO.
In 2wd you can't force the car to get traction as oppose you use the accelerator to get traction in 4wd/awd but when you're on an ice neither will help any unless you have metal spikes builtin your tires.
 

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It works great, but i usually dont remember. I get pleanty of practice.
 

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down shifting on ice is a shaddy area! it becomes very easy for you to break the wheels loose and slide. things can get really hairy, front or rear drive
 
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