I've got the Falken FK452s in 245/275 setup. Got about 2k miles on them in both wet and dry and I have been very pleased with them. We had a massive thunderstorm this past Friday and they performed flawlessly at interstate speeds in that downpour. Haven't had a chance to track them, but they've held very well during "spirited driving" around town as well.
Tire Suggestions?
I am moving to Seattle and it's time for some new rubber. Anyone have any suggestions about a good wet/dry tire? I am a little concerned about slipping around evertwhere I go, and my V is my daily driver.
Any information about wet vs dry tires, size, and weather or not I should even worry about the wet would be very helpful. Thanks.
Any information about wet vs dry tires, size, and weather or not I should even worry about the wet would be very helpful. Thanks.
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I just installed the Yokohama Advan S4 (245/45-18) for daily driving. It was my second choice, but Bridgestone R60AS was on back order. I'm very happy with the dry and wet performance of the Yokohama so far.
Mark "Feff" Pfeffer
www.MVPTrackTime.com
Mark "Feff" Pfeffer
www.MVPTrackTime.com
My Dunlop SP Sport Maxx tires were phenomenal in the rain. And they are cheap on the TireRack. When I bought them, they were about $228 per tire.
But if you want to spend some $$ and get the best tire, which is also very good in the rain, get the Michelin Pilot Sport 2.
But if you want to spend some $$ and get the best tire, which is also very good in the rain, get the Michelin Pilot Sport 2.
I bought the Dunlop Sport Maxx SP's a couple months ago when they were even cheaper, but they are still a real deal at Tire Rack. Now $149 each and you get either a pair of Serengeti sunglasses :cool2: or $50 as a rebate for a set of four. The glasses make you look cool while you are waiting for somebody to show up if you get a flat.
That leaves you $28 for clean underwear if my math is correct. Hope you take advantage of that deal????I bought the Dunlop Sport Maxx SP's a couple months ago when they were even cheaper, but they are still a real deal at Tire Rack. Now $149 each and you get either a pair of Serengeti sunglasses :cool2: or $50 as a rebate for a set of four. The glasses make you look cool while you are waiting for somebody to show up if you get a flat.
BFG KDW2's work well in rain/dry. my 2 cents...
As Jim says PS2.
Most other tires are a joke compared to those.
RE-01R is what I am getting soon.
(not much rain in SoCal)
Also, I am of the mindset that sticky rubber is sticky rubber, rain or shine.
Of course you must have full tread depth for rain.
I have driven on R compound tires (at full tread depth) in the rain and would not have dreamed of driving those speeds in rain on street (rain) tires.
Most other tires are a joke compared to those.
RE-01R is what I am getting soon.
(not much rain in SoCal)
Also, I am of the mindset that sticky rubber is sticky rubber, rain or shine.
Of course you must have full tread depth for rain.
I have driven on R compound tires (at full tread depth) in the rain and would not have dreamed of driving those speeds in rain on street (rain) tires.
I used to think the same thing until I got sideways on new F1 run-flats while cruising at a steady 60 mph on a smooth interstate highway south of Dallas. These same tires are "sticky" when dry, but will hydroplane if the humidity gets too high.As Jim says PS2.
Most other tires are a joke compared to those.
RE-01R is what I am getting soon.
(not much rain in SoCal)
Also, I am of the mindset that sticky rubber is sticky rubber, rain or shine.
Of course you must have full tread depth for rain.
If the F1's were new, I'm not sure they were the cause of the slippage.I used to think the same thing until I got sideways on new F1 run-flats while cruising at a steady 60 mph on a smooth interstate highway south of Dallas. These same tires are "sticky" when dry, but will hydroplane if the humidity gets too high.
If having slippage on a tire disqualifies it as a good wet tire then what tires are left to buy?
I bet any tire you can name has had slippage in wet conditions.
There are lots of things to contend with on highways such oil, marbles, ruts, crowns etc.
Some of those things will take a car off track even in dry conditions.
Performance tires tend to give the best (compared to other tires) friction with the road surface.
Naturally you can't be below their tempurature range and enough tred is needed to displace standing water.
I just caution that the majority of cheap All Season type tires are not all that great in the wet either and they are also worse in the dry.
The drop off in wet is less because the dry levels are lower.
Perhaps that is why people think they perform better in wet.
That said, if you routinely drive in sub freezing conditions then you definetly need All Season type tires.
I just honestly have always been satisfied with good high performance tires in wet conditions.
I have not seen any evidence to show that they are any worse in wet than All Season tires.
I don't disagree with your conclusions in general and have also had good experience with high perfomance tires in wet conditions. However, my experience with the F1 run-flats was a higher propensity to hydroplane than any other tire I have ever encountered regardless of performance grade or relative tread depth.I just caution that the majority of cheap All Season type tires are not all that great in the wet either and they are also worse in the dry.
The drop off in wet is less because the dry levels are lower.
Perhaps that is why people think they perform better in wet.
That said, if you routinely drive in sub freezing conditions then you definetly need All Season type tires.
I just honestly have always been satisfied with good high performance tires in wet conditions.
I have not seen any evidence to show that they are any worse in wet than All Season tires.
I noticed something the other day that I never saw with the F1s or Dunlops and haven't seen since slicks. The PS2s pick up and fling every speck of sand it touches. Yummy.:bouncy:
The compound on those gets real sticky with heat.I noticed something the other day that I never saw with the F1s or Dunlops and haven't seen since slicks. The PS2s pick up and fling every speck of sand it touches. Yummy.:bouncy:
Take them to a track day and you will be impressed with how they gum up like an R-tire and don't chunk the shoulders.
They do chunk in the middle a bit because of the narrow tred blocks.
So resist the urge to over pressurize them, despite the semi soft (comfy ride) sidewalls.
Darkman - Thanks for the feedback on F1's.
I'll be carefull in wet, if my V ever sees rain.
Do consider PS2's though as not much is better in the wet.
If you want a performance runflat that can handle wet try the Bridgestone Potenza RE050A. I replaced my F1's with these and am pleased.
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