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So... I'm making a minor trek from LA to Las Vegas tomorrow. I was planning on taking the CTS-V with PS2's but it seems like driving them in the possibly cold weather on the way back on Sunday may not be a good idea?

Forcast puts temps below 40 deg. I remember hearing about how that can cause issues. (Temps will be like 50's on the way there). Also no forecast of snow and very little of rain. What do you guys think?
 

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So... I'm making a minor trek from LA to Las Vegas tomorrow. I was planning on taking the CTS-V with PS2's but it seems like driving them in the possibly cold weather on the way back on Sunday may not be a good idea?

Forcast puts temps below 40 deg. I remember hearing about how that can cause issues. (Temps will be like 50's on the way there). Also no forecast of snow and very little of rain. What do you guys think?
I'm not recommending anything, but I'll share my experience with the PS2s...

Driving in heavy rain even in hot temps = dangerous (I was driving from Vancouver to Calgary in torrential rain, it started out of nowhere and I almost lost control, had to keep the speed under 70km/h to maintain control).

Normal light rain, no problems...


Took my new 13 out for a spin 2 days ago in 0 Celsius (No idea what that is in Fahrenheit) temperatures. first 2 minutes I had limited traction (since the tires were cold), after the 2 minutes I had excellent traction. I'm assuming it's because the tires warmed up. Keep in mind I ONLY had that excellent traction on dry roads... When driving on wet in that temp, I had reduced traction, but nothing scary...

Leaving on that note, on my way home, I got stuck in an alley on very light snow (the snow hadn't melted)... That was a pain in the ass and completely dangerous as everytime any power went to the wheels the vehicle would fly 4 feet instantly to the left or to the right...

As for ice, I can't comment at all. I hit one patch while in a parking lot, I thought I'd slide but the vehicle drove like there was no ice. This could have been because I was doing around 2 km/h.
 

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Just before new years I took the V to San Diego from LA. i encountered some pretty heavy rains as well. It wasn't too bad from what I could tell in terms of traction on the freeway, but I don't think there was too much turning. I was going around 70mph-80mph.

Thanks for the feedback though. Looks like I should take it easier at first until the tires warm up and then I'm good to go.

It would be very depressing but I guess I could just take my altima instead.
 

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If the road is dry, you will have zero issues due to temperature. I've made that drive a few times. If it rains, slow down, plain and simple. The PS2's won't get you in trouble by themselves unless you encounter snow. Are they great in the rain? No, but you'll manage if you simply take it easy. 40 degrees is alright at freeway speeds they tires will still warm up. You won't be at that temp for long, mainly through the pass. Mostly you'll be closer to 50 or higher. . .Its a fun drive if you bail around 10 you'll miss most traffic. Watch out for Smokey. . .:)
 

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Well I'm planning on these timetables

The chance of snow does concern me a little but I guess I can always just stop if it does?
If you have that option to stop, then I'd say go for it... It only took 2 city blocks at 50km/h for my tires to warm up...

But seriously, and I mean 100% pay attention to this. If you encounter any slush or snow STOP IMMEDIATELY. People think I exagerate when I mention the traction on snow... I'm not, it's actually that bad, and the result will be absolutely horrible...
 

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You won't have any issue with temp if its dry and you don't drive like a wild man.

I drive street bikes on dot slicks in 35 degrees and have no problems. A car is a walk in the park.

Rain just take it even easier. Snow....u are screwed but I bet the real odds of it snowing there is pretty slim.

Cheers!
 

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think about this..... if you are going I-15 to vegas from LA..which I am sure you are...the only place you would hit snow is on the Cajon Pass.

The CHP closes that in a heartbeat until Cal Trans plows are out and then

the CHP escorts you.

Take the V and enjoy yourself.
 

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think about this..... if you are going I-15 to vegas from LA..which I am sure you are...the only place you would hit snow is on the Cajon Pass.

The CHP closes that in a heartbeat until Cal Trans plows are out and then

the CHP escorts you.

Take the V and enjoy yourself.
you've convinced me. !#%!# it. So I miss a few meeting at CES if I have to delay a little! SCREW IT! Vagon time!
But yeah... the only bit of snow I noticed is right out of the mountain in Hesperia
 

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I drive in very cold weather all the time. I act as if if were raining, that is don't make any aggressive maneuvers until the tires are warmed up and pressure has increased at least two psi according to the DIC. Even when they are warm, I still take it easy when the temps are below 50.

Now, and I cannot overstate this, if you drive this car with the PS2's in the snow, YOU WILL CRASH. These tires might as well be made out of granite when travelling in the snow. Don't even think about it. If you encounter snow, game over.
 

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I live here in Vegas, and up until just recently I had PS2s on my Vagon. I also drove to LA twice in cold weather and torrential rain, and it was fine. It's been in the 40s for weeks now, and I drive 60 mi. a day round trip. Don't worry about it. Like others have said, just drive proportionately to the weather. if it's raining, slow down. if it's snowing (extremely unlikely) slow down more or pull over, But I doubt you'll have to.

Let me know if you want to meet up somewhere while you're here, we can compare notes.
 

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Just made it :)
No snow thankfully, just a whole lot of fog, rain, and darkness in el cajon. Other than that portion the weather was quite amicable. I think temps hit 36 at lowest for me according to the temp gauge. Just hoping it doesnt rain on the way back as temps are forcast to be even lower on the way back and ice doesn't sound like fun.

On the other hand, after el cajon the sun came out and just long stretch of highway at 50 degrees with very few cars on the road so you know what I did ;)

Xaqtly, what did you have in mind? I'm here with my fiance and a little bit of work for CES but that ends on Friday at 3PM and I'm here till Sunday :).
 

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I'm actually leaving Friday afternoon to go to LA for the weekend, but we can meet up for lunch if you want, today or tomorrow. I'll send you a PM.
 

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denny- keep in mind even if the roads are cleared they are most likely sanded/salted

which to me is even worse, the sand causes paint wear, the salt- well its salt

not sure what they use on the roads out there but either sucks


and never mind- I see you already made the trip and lived to tell about it :histeric:
 

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Hey Denny, glad you got there safely. BTW, El Cajon is east of San Diego, you went over Cajon pass, big difference. Also, Mountain Pass is a touch over 4K', so be careful there.

To the guy in Canada, you really don't know what 0 Celcius is in Fahrenheit? I can understand not knowing Kelvin or Rankine, but 0 Celcius is 32 Fahrenheit, aka freezing point of water at one Bar (atmospheric) pressure.
 

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Hey Denny, glad you got there safely. BTW, El Cajon is east of San Diego, you went over Cajon pass, big difference. Also, Mountain Pass is a touch over 4K', so be careful there.

To the guy in Canada, you really don't know what 0 Celcius is in Fahrenheit? I can understand not knowing Kelvin or Rankine, but 0 Celcius is 32 Fahrenheit, aka freezing point of water at one Bar (atmospheric) pressure.
Hey man, no need to make fun... :)

We don't use Fahrenheit here in Canada, we're metric! I've never had to use the Fahrenheit measurement at all, and it's not taught in school (everything is metric here). When I think water freezing, I think 0 Degrees C... Whenever I'm in the states all my weather apps are in Metric so I've never had to bother. Actually believe it or not, we got in to Kelvin measurements in high school, just nothing in the United States customary units because we simply just don't use them...

But anyways, wow, we got dumped on here in Calgary yesterday... The snow is about 4-6 inches higher then the bottom lip of the bumper. Thank god for the Escalade, the V would be a plow in this weather if it had winter tires on!
 

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Don't you mean 15-20 centimeters lower? I kid, I kid.
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There you go.

Hey, sorry if I was razzing you a bit. I understand you don't use our idiotic system, but, guess where we inherited from? I had to go through school learning both systems, all the way through engineering. In fact, I know most conversions in my head, so I work backwards or forwards from there.

Still, I just brought it up because I thought for sure, at some point, it would have come across and you would have noticed 32F = 0C, and 212F = 100C.

But, for the record, the metric system is SO much easier. Ever hear of the term "slug"? It's the English (or standard, or whatever it's called) unit of measurement for mass in our system, but nobody uses it. It's defined as pound/g, where g is 32.2 f/s/s^2
 
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