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Soooooo, this evening a server at one of my local watering holes told me "I feel I know you well enough now to tell you that the staff thinks you're a poor tipper."

Naturally I was a bit offended by this, but I welcomed the information since I do enjoy going there. My usual tab is between $15-$25 three nites a week.

What would you tip?:alchi:














Fyi my usual tip on this would be $7-$12. Are they being greedy or am I a bastard? I usually tip a $1 a drink and 15% on food, is this out dated?:alchi:
 

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Sounds to me like they are being greedy. I live in a tourist driven community and feel tipping is important. I always start with a base of 15%, I don't leave $1 per drink cause I never get a refill. If they do their work with a smile I increase it to 20-25%. If you left a $7 tip on a $15 tab and they are complaining you need to find somewhere else to eat (unless you are overly demanding).
 

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Naturally I consider the quality of service, but usually tip in that same 15-20% ballpark. Guess I'm a poor tipper, too. :D (And the server with the cajones to say that to me would be looking forward to a greatly-reduced gratuity. ahaha)
 

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I also think they're whining. $1 a drink is fine. Bar tabs are usually tipped at 15%. For food service I also tip between 15% and 20%.
 

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A few things from a guy that's been around the block on serving and bartending. I've been doing it for over six years and have worked between 40-60 hours a week for the last four of them, between a variety of styles and types of restaurants and bars and high class and dives.

Most of my good friends in this town became that way through my serving them at the bar.

A buck a drink is good if you're at Applebee's (my bread and butter), Chili's, Red Lobster, etc etc etc or at your local dive bar. If you're a regular, throw down an extra five at the end of the night once in a while. Not every time, but every week or two.

A buck a drink at fancier places is not so good...When I was in the fine dining business I would get anywhere from a buck to four or five per drink. Granted, these were fifteen and eighteen dollar drinks. A two hundred dollar bottle of wine, though its not fifteen percent, I was always happy with ten or fifteen bucks...ya don't do much even though your sales are high.

Beers, tip a dollar a piece. Blended drinks, ice cream drinks, pain in the ass to make drinks, tip a little extra. If the bartender knows "your" drink and has it sitting on the counter before you are, tip extra. I could probably name a hundred different people in this town, between the six bars I've worked at over the last five years, and exactly what they drink. Some of them are even the PIA's that drink a Dewars and soda first, move on to a Young Girls Panties next and finish up with six or seven beers. If the bartender remembers you and your drinks, take care of him.

On food, fifteen percent is "customary." It's up to 18 and even 21% in some places now, but i'm always happy with fifteen. Remember, that server has to tip out the bartender, food expediter, hosts, sometimes the cooks and dishwashers even. Not all of that dollar goes to them. I bring home, on average, 11-12% of my sales after tipping out my fellow employees.

Another thing that screws us servers and beerslingers is things like giftcards. I can't tell you how many times someone has come in with a $50 giftcard and had a seventy five dollar ticket. They pay the other 25 bucks on a credit card and tip like it was a 25 dollar ticket, $4-5. I don't know how or why, but without fail, they seem to forget that they had fifty bucks worth of their tag taken off.

Another classic thing I like to blame on mistake and innattention, not cheapskates, is the $27.85 dinner ticket. They leave thirty bucks thinking they've tipped three bucks. Nope, only two-fifteen. They don't take into account that they should round up to the dollar before adding tip.

Another one, (haha, now I get to pick on Jesda!!!) is when the tag is pretty big, say, 80 bucks, people will tip ten, thinking its a big tip. Nope. Just because its ten dollars doesn't mean its a big tip, because that's only 12.5% Not a very good tip, especially on a bigger table which was probably more work.

Easy way to figure out ffiteen percent, at least in California, where sales tax is 7.25%, is to double the sales tax and add 1%. Comes out to just over fifteen percent.

Now, that said, I'm in California and lucky. Many many many states all tipped employees are paid next to nothing. Last I heard, Texas and many other states minumum wage for tipped employees is $2.13 an hour. Mine is $7.5 an hour.

Pabst, judging by your math, you should maybe drink less. :) If you're tipping 7-12 bucks on a 15-25 dollar tag, you've got to be giving more than a buck a drink...and if you're NOT, I want to come drink in your bar where drinks are 2.25 a piece! :)

I wouldn't worry about it, if you really ARE tipping that well, I'd be ecstatic to have you at my bar three times a week.
 
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Interesting read from you Spyder. Very insightful....not that I'm surprised.

I typically tip between 20-25% for good service. I don't frequent bars much anymore, but if I'm having a drink before a meal I tip a buck / beer. Same thing for a bourbon and diet coke. I don't drink anything too frilly or fruity, or that's difficult to mix, so I've really never had to be concerned with how much to tip for that.

If I get really bad service I only leave 10%. If the server is rude or ignores my table completely I won't leave shit. It doesn't happen often, but I won't leave someone 20% when I sit through an entire meal with an empty glass. And I won't leave even 1% for someone who has been rude.
 

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Pabst, judging by your math, you should maybe drink less. :) If you're tipping 7-12 bucks on a 15-25 dollar tag, you've got to be giving more than a buck a drink...and if you're NOT, I want to come drink in your bar where drinks are 2.25 a piece! :)

I wouldn't worry about it, if you really ARE tipping that well, I'd be ecstatic to have you at my bar three times a week.
First off thank you. The bar I go to is a sports bar type place, but not a chain. I drink $2 pints of PBR. I'll have 7-10 of them usually Thursday, Saturday & Sunday. :alchi:

I go to a couple of other places different nites & tip the same way on $2 bottles. :alchi:

My school of thought was always $1/beer. If the beer is over $4 I won't go there so I'm always tipping atleast 25%. :alchi:
 

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Yea, I figured it was PBR you were drinking. Two bucks a pop though? Kinda high, ain't it? :D

One of my local watering holes has it on tap for a buck and a half a pint. I usually give three per, then throw down an extra five at the end of the night, depending on who the bartender is. One of the girls knows me and has them lined up when I walk in, the others are not so great. :)

Rolex, yea, if I get poor service I'll still leave a little bit just to cover their ass so they don't actually lose money. If they're REALLY bad, nothing.
 

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I don't try to think too much about percentages, I try to think about it in terms of what I would want to receive if I were the person working. If I go to Applebee's let's say, and I order several $1.50 taps and 2 half-price appetizers (Ok, so this is happens several times a week) and my tab is about $12, $13.00, I'll just leave a $20. I hate asking for change, and I know the people behind the bar appreciate it. Back in Winona, I use to go to a pub where every bar tender knew exactly what I wanted when I sat down. I'd leave a $10 every time, and I can't tell you how many free shots and drinks I've gotten there.

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What gripes me about the food and drink service you get now days is that none of the kids has any idea how it's done. All they know is standing at a counter and ordering fast food. There isn't one in a hundred that has served an apprenticeship under an old time hash slinger and has learned what to write down and how to carry plates. I'd tip a lot better if I got the meal I ordered in a reasonable amount of time served correctly on a clean plate. People react like it's a circus act when they see an old timer carrying plates up and down both arms through a crowd. The kids act like they ought to get $20 for pouring a little water in a glass. If you want tips you'd better do something to earn them. A good bartender is a showman with a good shtick. They make machines that'll serve you drinks one after another.
 

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18% on food all the time. :D
 

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Myself personally, I appreciate being tipped as a driver. All tips are billed into the trip but some tip extra. While it's not totally needed, it's appreciated.

I try to tip a bartender at the beginning of the night a little bit extra. Later, if it's flipping the top off a beer, I give $1-1.50. If it's a regular mixed drink, $2. As for food, I try to always top 25%. Me and my friends sometimes try to trump each other. There have been times our tip was over 100%.

I do a number of jobs per day. I get tipped at least a couple times per day above what tip is normally billed. I don't go out often enough to worry about draining my wallet on a regular basis. So to give a huge tip to someone who needs the money more than me makes me feel good.

But even if I was money conscious, I'd rather eat less and keep the tip at 25% or above...
 

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You're supposed to tip? Jesus, no wonder every time I go out they seat us next to the bathrooms...

Thx for the head's up, guys.. :eek:

Actually, Pabsty, I just did some quick math, and by my estimation you're spending about $270 to $300 a month on beer. That's a nice chunk of change just for something you flush down the hopper 12 hours later.
 

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Right off hand I can think of several hundred things to do that are more productive and healthy than holding down a barstool. Why not start by taking your boy fishing and camping. Do a load of laundry for your wife. Paint the back door. Volunteer your time at the hospital. No wonder the country is going to hell in a hand basket. My experience is that people who hang out in bars have very little to talk about beyond how drunk they got at the last party and how drunk they intend to get at the next one. If you have to get buzzed to be able to tolerate the people you associate with maybe you need to rethink a few priorities. When my friends and I get together we drink coffee and have intellectual discussions of current events and ideas. Everybody leaves under their own power and can remember the whole thing. Amazing!
 

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Actually, Pabsty, I just did some quick math, and by my estimation you're spending about $270 to $300 a month on beer. That's a nice chunk of change just for something you flush down the hopper 12 hours later.
I'm well aware of the amount of $ I spend at the bar & I wouldn't be going if my bills weren't paid & I wasn't still "Getting ahead". But, I thank you for the concern.:alchi:

Right off hand I can think of several hundred things to do that are more productive and healthy than holding down a barstool....
I'm single so no kid to take fishing (Or wife for that matter), I send my laundry out to be done & I'll start an internet porn biz before I volunteer my time (Just something I won't do). :alchi:

Plain 'n' simple I enjoy drinking & watching 4 sporting events at once. :alchi:
 

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Plain 'n' simple I enjoy drinking & watching 4 sporting events at once. :alchi:[/quote]
So, he passed on and was greated by St. Peter at the pearly gates; "What have you done with your life?" He answers; "Well, I drank a lot of beer and watched a whole lot of TV".
 

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15 percent and I DONT reward mediocrity like some of my friends feel obligated to do.

I also DONT tip for To Go orders which occasionally gets me funny looks (what, the cook did all the work and you want a tip for grabbing it and bringing it to me? nuh-uh.) If its brought out to my car that policy changes, but I usually specifically go inside for this reason.

I dont really drink either, so the alcohol protocol is not of concern to me.
 

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Pabst, judging by your math, you should maybe drink less. :) If you're tipping 7-12 bucks on a 15-25 dollar tag, you've got to be giving more than a buck a drink...and if you're NOT, I want to come drink in your bar where drinks are 2.25 a piece! :)
15% was already included because we came as a large group. Thats a $20 tip on a $60 ticket!
 
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