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I just tried searching for this but nothing came up which I thought was odd... Dunno if the search is down or if this really hasn't been covered...

The shop said I need a new tie rod end. Not sure if it was inner or outer, I'll find out tomorrow. But is there a suggested brand as far as tie rod ends go? Also does anyone know of a thread or page that documents how to do it and how long it should take?

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Don't recall anyone posting on tie rod ends. Not very common, but not to say they don't wear.

Either wait for someone else to chime in, subscribe your car to www.alldatadiy.com for 3 years (more info and manuals than you'll ever need), or check eBay for a Helm/GM Factory Service Manual. Forget Chilton's or Haynes.....too generic.

Take a look at your car parts in www.rockauto.com. Click on the little part pic or the (!) icon for a larger view.
 

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I don't know if A/C Delco makes tie rods. I would think most any brand would be OK. There is not much to it.
 

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If its not too common how do I go about testing it to make sure it really needs to be replaced? It is a 2000 that only has 76k so you have me thinking they might be trying to pull one over on me...
 

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Jack the wheel up and grab it at 3:00 and 9:00 and wiggle it. If there is any play, look at the tie rod and you should see the play.
 

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I just replaced my tie rod ends with brand new ones less than a year ago and in 2 oil changes both of them have 'claimed' that the tie rod ends were getting loose, which I know is just a pure and simple lie. One of them even said that my oil filter was a bit rusty on the outside and probly needed replaced. I had a good laugh at that one since it was less than a month old at the time and the outside appearance has nothing to do with the performance of the filter.

Bottom line- shops are notorious for telling you that you need things that you really don't and tie rod ends are one of the most mentioned of these items.

If you are going to get new ones just get them from the local autoparts store. The Delco ones are a sealed for life construction and dont require being greased (which is supposedly done during each oil change), but they are also like 3-4 times as much. A tie rod is pretty much a tie rod. there isnt much to it. save ur money and just get em from the local autoparts store.
 

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I have to agree with several of the posters so far. I would definitely weigh the reputation of the shop you are at. This is a common, high profit item. I remember a shop wanted $800 to change out upper and lower ball joints on my sister's S10 4WD. It took less than $100 in parts and 4 hours to do them all.

On top of that, if you wanted to tackle it yourself, it's a pretty simple job. I've done the entire suspension and steering rebuild on quite a few vehicles. You only need a couple of specialty tools, but you can usually rent them at most parts stores now. For tie rod ends, the most you'll need is a pickle fork, but usually a sharp hammer blow will free the tie rod end.

As for buying the tie rod end, I'm sure it's an outer.......inners are a pain and rarely go bad that early, especially on a rack and pinion setup. I usually end up buying a name brand/lifetime warranty tie rod end. I plan on keeping my cars. As for the changeout, not that tough, but you may want to both sides as a front end alignment is in order afterward. Quick check online shows about $30 each for the outers.

As for Factory Service Manuals, I usually wait for Helm to hold a sale. I bought my 1997 manuals for less than $60. The online site mentioned is a great resource, but I just like having the printed manual available, as many times, I have to jump around between sections for a single job.
 

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I just replaced my tie rod ends with brand new ones less than a year ago and in 2 oil changes both of them have 'claimed' that the tie rod ends were getting loose, which I know is just a pure and simple lie. One of them even said that my oil filter was a bit rusty on the outside and probly needed replaced. I had a good laugh at that one since it was less than a month old at the time and the outside appearance has nothing to do with the performance of the filter.

Bottom line- shops are notorious for telling you that you need things that you really don't and tie rod ends are one of the most mentioned of these items.

If you are going to get new ones just get them from the local autoparts store. The Delco ones are a sealed for life construction and dont require being greased (which is supposedly done during each oil change), but they are also like 3-4 times as much. A tie rod is pretty much a tie rod. there isnt much to it. save ur money and just get em from the local autoparts store.
i meant fuel filter, not oil filter
 
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