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Who says family guys can't have any fun:

1/4 mile
300C SRT8 [email protected]
Charger SRT8 [email protected]
CTS-V [email protected]* (with 04-05 LS6 engine)
STS-V [email protected]
GTO [email protected]
Mustang GT [email protected]

Skidpad
Charger SRT8 0.90
CTS-V 0.90
300C SRT8 0.89
Mustang GT 0.89
GTO 0.88
STS-V 0.87

70-0
Charger SRT8 162 feet
300C SRT8 162
GTO 167
CTS-V 167
Mustang GT 170
STS-V 170

Interior Volume
300C SRT8 107 cubic feet
Charger SRT8 105
STS-V 104
CTS-V 98
GTO 95
Mustang GT 83

Road Test MPG
Mustang GT 16
300C SRT8 14
GTO 14
CTS-V 13
STS-V 12

Price as Tested
Mustang GT $28,865
GTO $33,500
Charger SRT8 $43,115
300C SRT8 $45,450
CTS-V $51,295
STS-V $77,000

SOURCE: Car & Driver
 

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:nono: no we wish this was a reality, But it is a typo it has an ls6 not an ls7
If the V had an ls7 we would be way faster, :devil: over a 100 horses faster.
 

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So honestly was this a return of muscle post or did you really want to show us that one rag gave the Charger better than V numbers? If anyone actually believes these numbers I've got a .... For example the V and GTO stop in the same distance right; maybe if the V is stopping in water.
 

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AmesCTS-V said:
So honestly was this a return of muscle post or did you really want to show us that one rag gave the Charger better than V numbers? If anyone actually believes these numbers I've got a .... For example the V and GTO stop in the same distance right; maybe if the V is stopping in water.
Ha

Wake up and smell the burning rubber

1. Car & Driver is by far the most accurate tester of all the magazines

2. All 3 major magazines have tested each one. The V ranges from 13.1 to 13.4 (and is the fastest), the SRT8s range from 13.2 to 13.5, the GTO ranges from 13.3 to 13.7 and was the slowest in 2 of 3 comparison tests so get your facts straight before attacking someone.

Actually one day when I have time I am going to compile all the test results from all the available magazines and average them.
 

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What fact did I get wrong? I commented on the stopping distance of the V and GTO, BOTH of which I own. The 05 got better brakes, than my 04 has, but they aren’t CTS-V good.

I didn't realize C&D had been crowned the most accurate magazine, who factually decided this? You I guess.

The way you gave the numbers it would appear the V and SRT8's are the same in acceleration, but by your own admission the V is generally considered faster so why not put numbers that reflect this?

And I wasn't attacking you. If you read through the way you list it the Charger is king, even in a tie you list the Charger higher. It reads like a Charger ad so I was asking an honest question.
 

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AmesCTS-V said:
If anyone actually believes these numbers I've got a ....
What's not to believe, really? All of these numbers are soooo damn close to one another that it really is pointless to argue which is faster, goes around corners better, or stops faster. What I do feel is true is that most drivers with the manual cars (myself included) will lose most of the time in drag races to the automatic cars. You gotta earn every tenth in our precious V's while those in the SRT's just punch it and go.

Back to the topic though - it's great to see so many American cars puttin' a hurtin' on the foreign rivals.
 

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WWhat I do feel is true is that most drivers with the manual cars (myself included) will lose most of the time in drag races to the automatic cars.
Are you suggesting that, overall, automatics are faster in 1/4 mile races than manuals?
 

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Seattle CTS-V said:
What's not to believe, really? All of these numbers are soooo damn close to one another that it really is pointless to argue which is faster, goes around corners better, or stops faster. What I do feel is true is that most drivers with the manual cars (myself included) will lose most of the time in drag races to the automatic cars. You gotta earn every tenth in our precious V's while those in the SRT's just punch it and go.
Back to the topic though - it's great to see so many American cars puttin' a hurtin' on the foreign rivals.
Well then when we talk about GTO's I don't ever want to hear how the V is faster or that it stops better or any of the true stuff that gets brought up. I should have just gotten another GTO and saved some money.
 

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I think he's just pointing out the fact that even a mediocre driver can hit a good ET with an automatic, whereas the driver of a manual will have a harder time hitting his car's max. potential.
I would be willing to debate the manual vs. auto performance issue if you want but it will surely turn ugly because most guys don't understand the dynamics between the two and just rely on old theory and hear-say.
 

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Are you suggesting that, overall, automatics are faster in 1/4 mile races than manuals?
I think he's saying that while you need to be a pretty good shifter to get decent numbers in a V, your grandma can get the same numbers as you in an SRT-8.

Sorry to talk about your grandma...
 

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What fact did I get wrong?

I didn't realize C&D had been crowned the most accurate magazine, who factually decided this?

The way you gave the numbers it would appear the V and SRT8's are the same in acceleration, but by your own admission the V is generally considered faster so why not put numbers that reflect this?
 

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AmesCTS-V said:
What fact did I get wrong?
I didn't realize C&D had been crowned the most accurate magazine, who factually decided this?
The way you gave the numbers it would appear the V and SRT8's are the same in acceleration, but by your own admission the V is generally considered faster so why not put numbers that reflect this?
Dude,
You're repeating yourself. It's weirding me out. :bonkers:
 

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What fact did I get wrong?

I didn't realize C&D had been crowned the most accurate magazine, who factually decided this?

The way you gave the numbers it would appear the V and SRT8's are the same in acceleration, but by your own admission the V is generally considered faster so why not put numbers that reflect this?
Simple, when you thought you could guess my intentions, someone you don't know from a mailbox, you were WRONG.

As for the numbers, it says pretty clearly that all numbers are from one source. Why? Because they use not only the most accurate method, read up on it, but because comparing different mags only increase inaccuracies.

The way I gave the numbers? No, that is the way that they were recorded in actual tests.

deal with it
 
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