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I had the chance to test drive this car and was impressed with some things and not so with others. I liked the interior with the black and red accents. Beautiful combination. The controls with CUE are easy to use. The ride was very comfortable in tour mode. I liked the styling. The acceleration was OK, but not impressive. The steering was loose and you are disconnected a bit from the road. The handling is good, but not great even on Track Mode. I assume there were 2 different tire combinations. This had 255/35/18s on all 4 wheels and I know there is a staggered fitment with 275s in the rear. There are a lot of cars that do these things better but they are more expensive. I won't be buying one of these.
 

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Too bad to read you're disappointed. You won't be surprised to find VSport fans in this forum. How many miles on the car? I don't share your steering impressions I've formed from driving my 2014 VSport with 70K well-maintained miles, and a Trifecta tune. Did you know the electric steering assist firms up in sport mode, and according to driving conditions? Power can be significantly higher than stock with a tune, of course. Is the 2019 still the 3.6L LF3 engine?
 

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I had the chance to test drive this car and was impressed with some things and not so with others. I liked the interior with the black and red accents. Beautiful combination. The controls with CUE are easy to use. The ride was very comfortable in tour mode. I liked the styling. The acceleration was OK, but not impressive. The steering was loose and you are disconnected a bit from the road. The handling is good, but not great even on Track Mode. I assume there were 2 different tire combinations. This had 255/35/18s on all 4 wheels and I know there is a staggered fitment with 275s in the rear. There are a lot of cars that do these things better but they are more expensive. I won't be buying one of these.
2016 V Sport with 54,000 miles. Steering is tight and direct. Tires are now Goodyear Essentials all season. Get good traction and can push it hard in corners for a set of nontrack summer tires. Acceleration is more than adequate but it no supercharged V8. Take the car out to a road course and you will be impressed with how a comfortable 4 door sedan can be a driver's car.
 

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I had the chance to test drive this car and was impressed with some things and not so with others. I liked the interior with the black and red accents. Beautiful combination. The controls with CUE are easy to use. The ride was very comfortable in tour mode. I liked the styling. The acceleration was OK, but not impressive. The steering was loose and you are disconnected a bit from the road. The handling is good, but not great even on Track Mode. I assume there were 2 different tire combinations. This had 255/35/18s on all 4 wheels and I know there is a staggered fitment with 275s in the rear. There are a lot of cars that do these things better but they are more expensive. I won't be buying one of these.
My guess is the V-Sport you tested was kinda sick and not giving you full boost ... maybe needed a tune or had a cooling issue. and you indicated the tires were not the stock sizes which could effect performance. With stock tune these are around 12.7 -12.9 in the 1/4 mile. found a link you might find interesting...

When I was attending the Cadillac performance driving school in Nevada I wish I recorded a conversation I was in with another student and an instructor, who owned both a CTS -V and tuned CTS-V Sport and reported that he could run faster times with his V-Sport on a short curvy track and also during an autocross course and he claimed mostly its because the V-Sport is about two hundred pounds lighter than the Supercharged V-8 version. Then one of the driving school instructors who was very familiar with both cars added that he had the same results and also very much liked the V-Sports Aisin 8-speed automatic over the GM 8-speed.
 

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your take on the V-Sport seems odd in that both your ATS-V and CTS V-Sport use the same (although somewhat altered for size) basic platform...I'd bet there was something wrong with the one you tested along with the wrong tire size and sleepy engine...

I really enjoy my 2016 with 33K miles on it now...mine does not seem to suffer anything in your test of one and I believe you know what you are talking about since you have an ATS-V...
 

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Too bad to read you're disappointed. You won't be surprised to find VSport fans in this forum. How many miles on the car? I don't share your steering impressions I've formed from driving my 2014 VSport with 70K well-maintained miles, and a Trifecta tune. Did you know the electric steering assist firms up in sport mode, and according to driving conditions? Power can be significantly higher than stock with a tune, of course. Is the 2019 still the 3.6L LF3 engine?
27k miles. The steering firms up both in Sport and Track mode. Not sure about the engine. Any tune will void the warranty.
 

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Very interesting video. Thank you. I wish GM had produced this car with 500 hp and 470 ft. lbs. of torque.
You can get that easily, high 400HP range tuned on 91 to 93 octane, low 500HP range with a flex fuel sensor, tune and E40. Yeah, warranty, wait a few miles if it makes you feel better. Make sure your plugs, coils and intercooler coolant are in good shape.

I've never met anybody who was anything but impressed with these cars. But if it isn't your thing, it's your money to do with as you please.
 

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You can get that easily, high 400HP range tuned on 91 to 93 octane, low 500HP range with a flex fuel sensor, tune and E40. Yeah, warranty, wait a few miles if it makes you feel better. Make sure your plugs, coils and intercooler coolant are in good shape.

I've never met anybody who was anything but impressed with these cars. But if it isn't your thing, it's your money to do with as you please.
Understand my perspective. I currently drive an ATS-V. I was hoping the differences between the V Sport and the ATS-V would not be as great. I am looking for a newer car, but nothing is close to the ATS-V. I would like to have a CT4 Blackwing, but the dealers are either marking the car up by a huge amount and others are not responsive. I even had one dealer tell me that GM is only making 120 CT4 Blackwings for 2023, which is incorrect.
 

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Go drive another one. Any time I see a used car with something like wrong sized tires, I am suspect.

I was torn between ATS V and V Sport, but chose V Sport due to interior and ride quality. They can be tuned to run quicker if you need some more pep.
It's the handling and steering that are different. The V Sport has less power, more weight, and the ride quality is softer. However, it does have more room and the car is better on trips by being more comfortable.
 

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your take on the V-Sport seems odd in that both your ATS-V and CTS V-Sport use the same (although somewhat altered for size) basic platform...I'd bet there was something wrong with the one you tested along with the wrong tire size and sleepy engine...

I really enjoy my 2016 with 33K miles on it now...mine does not seem to suffer anything in your test of one and I believe you know what you are talking about since you have an ATS-V...
I agree. I owned 2 Vsports, a 2014 and a 2017, just like the one in the Road and Track article above. They were incredible drivers’ cars. The one thing that needed to be done to each, however, was change the horrible Pirelli PZero runflats.


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I had the chance to test drive this car and was impressed with some things and not so with others. I liked the interior with the black and red accents. Beautiful combination. The controls with CUE are easy to use. The ride was very comfortable in tour mode. I liked the styling. The acceleration was OK, but not impressive. The steering was loose and you are disconnected a bit from the road. The handling is good, but not great even on Track Mode. I assume there were 2 different tire combinations. This had 255/35/18s on all 4 wheels and I know there is a staggered fitment with 275s in the rear. There are a lot of cars that do these things better but they are more expensive. I won't be buying one of these.

Jim
depending on boost level the car likely needed a IC bleed since these LF3 mills are so prone to it. After I installed my overflow tank it eliminated the need for bleeding since it self bleeds.
 

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I agree. I owned 2 Vsports, a 2014 and a 2017, just like the one in the Road and Track article above. They were incredible drivers’ cars. The one thing that needed to be done to each, however, was change the horrible Pirelli PZero runflats.


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Thats what Conti Extreme Contacts are used for...........lol run flats....yes, horrible
 
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