[Nocturn]

Price has nothing do with entry level.

The entry level aston martin cost 110K..(new V8 vantage I think...but I may be thinking of the DB9). The entry level Porshe cost 50K (boxter). The entry level Lambo cost 110K.

Entry level simply means its the cheapest, usually most common, most manufactored vehicle in a lineup.

Take Chevy for example. A base line cobalt is the cheapest car you can get from chevy (ignoring crap ass aveo), the SS SC cobalt cost up to 24K, and will blow a base cobalt away, but the point remains its still a cobalt and still the entry level car from chevy.

Look at the first three letters in CTSV...its still a CTS, which is still the entry level car for Cadillac, it's not a seperate model, but a trim level. Exactly like the M3, M5 and AMG cars.

 

[Nocturn]

I know which is the supercharged one. The Cobalt SS is just an analagy not becuase they added a supercharger but because its the top trim of the Cobalt line, just like the CTSV is of the CTS line. The CTS is the entry level car from Cadillac, thus the CTSV is the top trim of the entry level car from Cadillac.

Someone want to tell me what they changed from the CTS to the CTSV, and what they appearntly didn't also do to the STS to the STSV that makes the CTSV more valid? They both got the same treatment and upgrades.

And the Supercharged cobalt did get a smaller engine (2.0 vs 2.2)

 

[Nocturn]

Think of it this way, the CTSV is a GM car, the STSV is a Cadillac.

The STSV competes with its competition for much less, which is the point. The STS may not blow away the competiton like the CTSV but its still priced alot less, and offers something different to those who are surrounded by mercs and beamers.

The SLK and SL run almost the same times yet you don't see SLK guys thinking they are somehow better than SL owners.