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pricing just announced.
XLR-V is $100K

So much for value pricing.
Caddy really dropped the ball on pricing the new V's.
 

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Wow. A little higher than I expected. 10% higher.

I think that all but shoots my hopes of the STS-V ever getting into my garage.
 

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http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=107463

Cadillac Slaps $100,000 Tag on XLR-V
Date Posted 10-04-2005

DETROIT — Cadillac's new XLR-V, the performance variant of the hardtop roadster, will carry a manufacturer's suggested retail price of $100,000 when it arrives in showrooms later this year. The companion STS-V sedan will be priced at about $77,000.

The XLR-V is fitted with a supercharged, 4.4-liter version of General Motors' Northstar V8. The engine makes 440 horsepower and drives the rear wheels through a new six-speed automatic with manual-shift capability. Cadillac claims 0-to-60-mph acceleration in fewer than 5 seconds.

Also due this fall is the STS-V, which shares the supercharged, 4.4-liter unit and six-speed gearbox. Like the XLR-V, the high-performance sedan gets larger wheels and tires, along with the appropriate suspension modifications.

In a related move, GM announced that 49-year-old Bob Kruse will replace Mark Reuss, 42, as head of the company's performance division, which is responsible for development of the V-Series Cadillacs, among other goodies. Kruse retains his title as executive director of North America vehicle integration, while Reuss shifts to executive director of vehicle systems.

What this means to you: For about $25,000 less than the price of a Mercedes SL55 AMG, you can drive a 440-hp Cadillac roadster.
 

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STS-V
$77,000.00 MSRP
4.4L V8 469hp

XLR-V
$100,00.00 MSRP
4.4L V8 443hp


Mercedes Benz
E55 AMG it starts at $82,575*
AMG-built 5.5L 24-valve V-8 engine - 469 hp @ 6,100 rpm

SL55 AMG
$125,775*
AMG-built supercharged 5.5L 24-valve V-8 engine - 493 hp @ 6,100 rpm


BMW
M5
MSRP $81,200
10 engine, with a five-liter capacity, 10 cylinders, 500-hp (SAE net) output, 383 lb-ft maximum torque, and engine speeds in excess of 8,000 rpm.
 

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I'm sure the STS-V can be had for $10k under MSRP after a few months...just like my CTS-V (MSRP @ $55k, bought for $45,600). The M5, on the other hand, will likely go for over MSRP for quite some time. That widens the gap a bit.
 

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It's not "better enough" than a CTS-V to warrant the price. That's my opinion. Can't see paying $30,000 more for 1 inch more leg and shoulder room and an automatic.
 

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Cadillac stepped into Audi S4, BMW M3, and Mercedes C55 territory with the CTS-V... and they seem to be doing ok. I just hope this new STS-V venture does not go like the Phaeton did for VW. I am sure the BMW can't be had for less than MSRP. They barely budged when I was trying to buy a 545i.
 

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Sts-v

Cadillac's new 4.4 liter (267 cubic inch) supercharged Northstar V-8 is hand-built at this new facility in Wixom, Michigan - The Performance Build Center. It is the most powerful engine ever put in a Cadillac and is designated LC3.

I would imagine the LC3 would get a plaque just like the 505 hp LS7. The new
aluminum Corvette Z06's 505 hp LS7 is also hand-built at the Performance Build Center.
http://popularhotrodding.com/enginemasters/articles/cadillac/0504em_cady/






 

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Please follow This link and scroll down to my post. There is more here than just 1 inch of room and an automatic. Driving a CTS and STS is night and day, and the Vs will be no exception.
 

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cvp33,

I doubt that there is any more legroom in the front.
I feelmore comfortable in a CTS than a STS.
Rear legroom is more however.
STS is designed toa different sandard than CTS.
Quieter and more refined.
 

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Like it or not, you CTS-V guys are driving a quick entry level Caddy. People with serious bank tend not to go for entry level.

Watch me get lynched by the CTS-V people...
 

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Seattle CTS-V said:
I'm sure the STS-V can be had for $10k under MSRP after a few months...just like my CTS-V (MSRP @ $55k, bought for $45,600). The M5, on the other hand, will likely go for over MSRP for quite some time. That widens the gap a bit.
With only a 1600 unit production for 06 I doubt highly these cars will go for under MSRP.
 

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Like it or not, you CTS-V guys are driving a quick entry level Caddy. People with serious bank tend not to go for entry level.

Watch me get lynched by the CTS-V people...
Interesting. Uninformed but interesting.
 
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