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Hey everyone. Another newbie here. I have a broad question about Cadillacs in general. Are they as unreliable as some say? In other forums, I have heard such vehemence spewed that I wonder if the cars are really that bad or if it was just someone's sour grapes.

The reason I ask is because I've recently been considering a mid- 90s Seville STS. I've always loved the body style (so cool) and the Northstar. I mean, who wouldn't want a smooth riding luxury muscle car. But the dependability has me concerned. I expect to have to do some repairs but I want to be confident that my car will get me where I'm going.

I know I will get some replys that say buying a Caddie is worth it despite the repairs and that's fine, but this car will be my daily driver and I need to count on my "American Muscle".

Thanks for your advice,

Jaycee
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I bought my SLS new on Jan 16 2001 other than oil changes and for 15k servicing it has not been to the dealer since, these cars are very reliable imo...the thing is every board you go to, so many people hate every car except the one they own...cadillacs are not as bad as people would have you think...the northstar seems kind outdated now(no vvt)...and thats because its been around in the same basic form for 10+ years...it is the model by which other luxury engines were built thruout the 90's.... i love Lexus and MB and BMW but Cadillac is the true American Luxury car and definitely worth a look. BTW usually if someone is ranting about a cadillac all you have to do is replace the word Cadillac with Lincoln and they'll be right on the money.
 

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Oh and welcome to the board...there are a lot of good people here and it is one of the best boards ive ever visited
 

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I think the overall quality is very good. what you've heard is just the ever so present other brand bashing. it happens every where to every brand

welcome to the board
 

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Jaycee,
Welcome! The Cadillac you have chosen IS generally a high maintenance car. And it can be very expensive to fix. All this should be expected if you buy a high-level luxury car, no matter what brand. Back to your specific model choice. The STS is the most technically advanced vehicle Cadillac (or GM for that matter) has, or does produce. That said, it is to be expected that there will be some funky stuff go wrong occasionally. The big question you need to ask yourself is this; do you want a FWD car? That is the one thing that DEFINATELY sets it apart from the competition. I would say that PERSONALLY, I don't like FWD and would NOT buy one but many people here would argue that point. It really boils down to personal preference.
Either way, I'd say it's probably the best American made car in it's class so you be the judge.
 

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ya know ive never really thought about it but ive owned nine cars and they were all rwd except my current one, what have i done :banghead:
 

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I think that you will be pleased with a cadillac. They are fairly high maintenance, but it will be worth it by all the comments you will get on it. Even if you get an inexpensive one, they still look modern. If you can, get a service manual and do work yourself. That is where the dealers kill you, labor. Parts are more expensive, but not terrible.
 

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I keep seeing posts about high maintenance and high cost! I have experienced neither...Nor have any of my friends that have Cadillacs! My ownership experience has been great. I have 154,000 trouble free miles on my Seville and one of my friends has 190,000 plus on his STS with very few problems. The key as far a I'm concerned is proper maintenance. If you take care of it...It'll take care of you! These are great cars and well worth the money.I.M.H.O.
 

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it's not the reliability issue that most ppl are having, it's more like dealer not being able to actually fix anything that's troubling the cad owners. Then again this applies to most german cars too.
 

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If you're going to buy a used luxury car, just be sure to get a warranty on it. If you buy the car, ask us about a good warranty.. I keep forgetting the URL to a great company that seems to offer an amazing warranty... Once you have the warranty, you'll be driving an amazing luxury vehicle without spending a lot of money for repairs...

Also. For the average person, RWD/FWD doesn't make a difference.. When I got into my ETC, I didn't notice anything. It felt great. Drove great. Took-off great.. FWD didn't bother me...
 

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I consider the dealer to be THE issue. Dealers are generally "Great" Before the sale and "SUCK" after the sale. The service dept's. are there to do the minimum they have to to get by and bill hours to the factory for warranty work regardless if they do it or not. They generally try to shuffle the customer in and out as quickly as they can with NO regard to your satisfaction. They pay lip service to customer satisfaction while all the time trying to find ways to wiggle out from under their warranty obligations by blaming everything that happens on YOU the customer! The other way they try to pass it off is to say things like "They all do that" or "That's normal" I really like Cadillacs but I have yet to find a dealer that isn't an *******! One reason I keep my cars as long as I do is to avoid dealing with "THE DEALER" I'll alway drive these cars....But, I'll always consider the dealers to be a neccesary inconveniance in the car buying process!
 

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kcnewell said:
I keep seeing posts about high maintenance and high cost! I have experienced neither...Nor have any of my friends that have Cadillacs! My ownership experience has been great. I have 154,000 trouble free miles on my Seville and one of my friends has 190,000 plus on his STS with very few problems. The key as far a I'm concerned is proper maintenance. If you take care of it...It'll take care of you! These are great cars and well worth the money.I.M.H.O.
Again I have to agree with kc(which is getting a little unsettling), alright i have only had 1 cadillac and maybe that was a good experience, but since '84 my dad has had at least 6 that i can remember and those were all great cars, im not saying he never had a problem but i also know that they were extremely reliable. As far as high maintenance, i dont get it, i follow the owners manual and change the oil when the computer tells me, which in 29900 miles has been 4 times, not 10 if i did it every 3k. i get the oil changed at dealer which is ~50 bucks and i got a 15k service for 149, so thats 349 dollars in 2 years and 29900 miles not badfor a car that cost 46k to start with. I know my car does not have a lot of miles so maybe my problems are on the way, but id really like to know what these "expensive" costs are that i keep hearing about
 

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Unsettling??? Why, I NEVER! LOL!
 

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You can set aside any discussion about reliability, performance, dealer service, warranty, etc. The Caddy is every bit as good as the competition.

But here's the scary fact:

A two-year-old Caddy is only worth about 55-60% of its original MSRP.

A two-year old Mercedes, Lexus, BMW, Infiniti, Acura, even Honda has a MUCH higher resale value.

So if you're going to get a Caddy, buy it to keep, drive, and enjoy. Don't play the "trade-every-two-years" game with a new one. It will eat your bank book on depreciation alone.
 

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Hey guys,

I really appreciate all the input. As this would be my first luxury car, I've never had to experience all the wacky stuff that can go wrong with them. I like to think that these things happen to all complex machines whether they be German, Japanese, American, or whatever. The whole "computer-controlled" car thing is new to me. I still wax nostalgic about small-block Chevy engines without emissions. Oh well….

Here's another question for the intelligentsia. Why do you guys think the resale value is so affordable. I recently found an '93 STS in primo condition for $6000. I didn't drive it and I don't know the mileage, but I found other cars in classifieds for equally affordable prices. I just wonder why. Any ideas?

Thanks again,

Jaycee
 

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I can give you facts, Jaycee, but I can't explain WHY things are like they are. I honestly have no idea.
 

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They're great cars but they don't hold their value like Elvis said. A lot of that has to do with peoples fear of the technological aspects of the car as they get a little older. If they understood that they're as reliable as they are they would probably be more in demand than they are. I think it's cool though 'cause that means there are lots of good Cadillacs around at bargain prices for those who don't fear the technology!
 

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kcnewell said:
...there are lots of good Cadillacs around at bargain prices for those who don't fear the technology!
That's why Caddy is at the very top of my list next time I trade.
 
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