Starting in Second

i do it sometimes when im lazy.. or when my car wont let me put it in 1st lol

like most bitches i know she's a stubborn :v: sometimes..

I do it if the car is rolling, or on a slight hill. But starting in second has got to wear out the clutch just a little more. That's the way I look at it anyway.

Thats what I'm thinking also. It can't be good for the cluth in the log run.

Like others have said, its just a little more wear on the disk. No long term damage as far as the transmission goes.

^^^ Yeah those. ^^^

Get a CAGS eliminator, and the problem will disappear entirely.

These car's start off in 2nd gear better than alot of cars start off in 1st.

daVe06 said:

These car's start off in 2nd gear better than alot of cars start off in 1st.

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Yes, and they do, and they can even do so with a lightwheel flywheel instad of the OEM dual-mass flywheel.

I start off in 2nd about 30% of the time.

i used to do it... 50k miles and had no problems.. now i have the text and i have to pull out n first..

I can do it without slipping the clutch any more than first. You don't have to bog it either. I haven't had any issues. It just takes a little more practice to do it as smooth as first.

Get a CAGS eliminator...totally worth it.

It HAS to slip more in second than in first gear. Second gear... 900 rpm is 9 MPH. Your slipping your clutch until at least 9MPH, or your nearly stalling out. Clutch wear is the only downer for starting out in second.

Just installed my cags elimintor.... best thing i've ever done. So much easier in traffic and pulling out of my neighborhood.

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It HAS to slip more in second than in first gear. Second gear... 900 rpm is 9 MPH. Your slipping your clutch until at least 9MPH, or your nearly stalling out. Clutch wear is the only downer for starting out in second.

Just installed my cags elimintor.... best thing i've ever done. So much easier in traffic and pulling out of my neighborhood.

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900 rpm in second gear is 9 mph (8.91), but 900 rpm is also 6.21 mph in first.

Our second gear coupled with our 3.73 rear end ratio has an overall ratio that is not measurably taller than the overall ratio for first gear found in three-speed manual transmission cars in 60s and 70s which had rear end ratios around 2.90.

When my wife starts complaining about the clutch/first gear in her beloved Solstice GXP after driving the V, you know that there is something there. Way more clutch engagement time in 1st gear on the GXP than in 2nd on the V.
I told her that I could fix it though. LS2 and a six speed swap and she will never complain again that it's harder to get her car moving.. :highfive:

My w4m tune should be coming in a week or so, so I'll have a CAGS eliminator up for grabs if anyone wants it for the cost of shipping.
I actually noticed for the first time in a year that the "1->4" still shows up in the DIC while you're driving with the CAGS eliminator, it just doesn't actually do anything about it (since the solenoid isn't powered). Was weird to see that appear - now I see it all the time...

I'll start in 2nd about 30% of the time as well. If I do, I usually follow it up with a 2-4-6 pattern (because I'm busy holding my beer) :lol: j/k