Do notuse use a cleaner wax on a car you care about.:thepan: Cleaner wax contains 90% abrasives, and less than 10% wax. So all you are doing to applying an abrasive to your clear coat, which if done repeatedly will cause the clear coat to not only wear down, but lose its shine/depth and reflectivity. That is why cleaner wax sells so cheap. Claying should be done first, then use a "mild" paint cleaner like the one on my web site, then follow up with a synthetic sealant, to protect and promote the shine. Gary