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Well, what do you do to be "green"?

Do you keep your house uncomfortably hot or cold?
Do you invest in the latest efficient HVAC unit?
Do you at least caulk and weatherstrip your air leaks?
Do you drive a fuel efficient vehicle?(lol at Cadillac, since most past models have been "gas guzzlers")
Do you "recycle?"
Do you have squiggly light bulbs, the compact florescent lamps?

Post up what you do to be honestly green in your lifestyle.





Honestly I have been driving the shit out of my 25mpg 93 Toyota truck when the weather calls for a slight chance of "rain/sleet/snow". Sunny days I drive the 17mpg 91 Cadillac Brougham. Damn Cadillac has never been shinier since it hasn't gone out in nasty weather since I bought the truck.

I also recycle. Plastic bottles, aluminum cans, tin cans, any type of paper, any type of plastic #1-6, oil, coolant, and batteries.

I love my gas guzzling Cadillac. But I also feel a certain responsibility to Mother Earth.

I've converted my entire house to compact florescent lamps. I also change my air filter every month. Combined with some stratigic weatherstripping/caulking, I've managed to keep my electric bill under $130 every month this winter for a 1,100 square foot house with electric heat, circa 1981. I must admit this damn house was pretty overbuilt though.
 

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^ :lol: :lol: :lol: Jesda win.

I'm uh... not. But I live on a college campus and my lack of green-ness is from their own waste and excess. So whatever.
 

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Well, as much as I love my Cadillacs, driving an 8.2L powered 3mpg hearse is not a practical thing no matter how much you may or may not care! LOL! Seriously, I have a 30mpg Cavalier that I drive for daily use, recycling is part of the program too.

It's more a matter of practicality and economy for me.
 

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I'm no tree-hugger but I do try and act responsibly. It was probably ingrained in me from my Boy Scout days, way before it became fashionable.

  • I recycle everything that the local centers take. I won't burn a lot of gas just for the sake of turning in some metal though, I'm usually en-route to some other place nearby.
  • I have a 3 story 1920 house that I have made pretty energy efficient, mainly to reduce my out of pocket fuel costs.
    • insulation blown in walls, and about R35 in the ceiling
    • proper static attic ventilation including a new solar attic fan for added boost
    • new windows as rooms get remodeled
    • trees for shade and cooling
  • I ride a bicycle to save gas but mostly for exercise.
  • My daily driver is a Ford Escort that averages 27-30MPG. We plan our errands and leave the Cadi home.
  • I use CFDs for lights that stay on for long periods of time, like outdoor security.
  • I have a drip system in my gardens and a sprinkler system with timer and rain sensor to reduce water consumption
  • I chip and compost all of my leaves, twigs etc. Everything goes back in the soil. No need to buy the stuff.
  • I sail for recreation. I can get thru the whole season on about 3 gallons of gas. I feel for other who boat in stinkpots (powerboats)
lots of other similar efforts to save money and reduce my footprint.
 

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Do you keep your house uncomfortably hot or cold? 69 degrees LOL COLD
Do you invest in the latest efficient HVAC unit? Nope
Do you at least caulk and weatherstrip your air leaks? Nope
Do you drive a fuel efficient vehicle?(lol at Cadillac, since most past models have been "gas guzzlers") Escalade
Do you "recycle?" Nope
Do you have squiggly light bulbs, the compact florescent lamps? Nope


well that answers that.
 

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I'm green where being green saves me money.

Temp in the house? set it warmer in the summer, with fans to compensate. In the fall, winter and spring I use window fans instead of running the AC (and chop my power bill by more than 50%)

Invest in the latest efficient HVAC unit? No, I'm renting the house i'm in. I did put up heat reflecting window film on the windows, as the cost of the tint was recovered by the lower power bills in the last 2 summers. Now I'm money ahead.

Caulk and weatherstrip? No, the house is in pretty good shape, and when it's cool outside I turn off the AC and open a few windows.

Drive a fuel efficient vehicle? A Northstar Caddy is decent for its size, but not that efficient overall. But it's paid for, which frees up $ to pay for gas.

Recycle? Nope, don't see the $ upside for me (and a lot of recycling programs are money losers overall). I do reuse and repair old stuff where I can make it cost effective for me.

Use CFL's? Where appropriate (in the garage I have a 65W CFL that's equivalent to a 300W incandescent. Artificial sunshine! With it on and warmed up it's almost as bright in the garage as daytime with the garage door open.). Haven't found a CFL that plays nice with a dimmer switch yet, however.
 

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Living in Oregon and working on a college campus, I get plenty of exposure to that green stereotype of the tree-hugging hippie, so it's not a term I apply to myself. We do a lot of work around sustainability at OSU; fortunately most of it is practical and recognizes natural resources can be used responsibly.

That said, I believe in respecting the Earth and using resources sensibly. It's also practical for the most part.

My house was built in 2003, and it's well insulated. I have a programmable thermostat so I'm not needlessly heating or cooling the house when I'm at work, but I keep it comfortable: 69º in the winter, 77º in summer. I live in a relatively mild climate without wild extremes in either direction, which helps. My winter natural gas bill can get up to $100, and it's often less. And in the summer, my electric bill averages between $50-$60. It also helps that we have cheap hydro-power in Oregon. I had to replace my air conditioner last summer, and while it's energy efficient, it's not top-tier efficient. Spending $2,000 was bad enough.

I don't consider my Cadillac a gas guzzler with a long-term average of 21-22 MPG and high 20s in straight highway driving. Plenty of V6 powered cars do the same or worse. Even some four cylinders aren't much better.

I have a number of CFL bulbs throughout the house and specifically installed them outside for when I leave them on during the winter. Unlike Rand Paul, I don't have a problem with them.

I've always had curbside, co-mingled recycling as a homeowner, so it's no more difficult than throwing something in the trash. The only thing I have to separate out is glass, and that's mostly wine bottles :alchi: and a few items that still come in glass jars.
 

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OMG, Gary...77 in the summer? I'd die. I only turn mine up that high if I'm going out of town.

To preface -- I am a proud denier of man-made global warming. It is a colossal hoax/shakedown by the ecoleft. Classifying CO2 as a pollutant means that every tree and plant should be uprooted. See how long we last then.

THERMOSTAT
In the summer, regardless of what Maobama says that we "can't keep our thermostats at 72"...if I'm in the house, it's 72 max and sometimes down to 68. If it's just the dog, I'll turn it up to 74 or 75. In the winter, it's between 68 and 70. My peak gas and electric bills are usually $200-250 in the peak months (maybe twice a season). Probably $100/mo. the rest of the time.

A/C and FURNACE
I have a home warranty, so when mine go out, I'll replace them with the highest efficiency that it will pay for.

WEATHERPROOFING
I could probably do a little of this, but my house was built in 2002, and is pretty well insulated.

LIGHTING
CFLs are a polluting, harsh lighting menace. That said, I use them in areas that are either kept on all the time (for cost considerations, not energy usage), or are hard to get to (fear of ladders). I have halogen spots in my kitchen that I love, and are low energy usage. I use incandescents everywhere else. I'm starting to hoard them. The ecoNazis can kiss my ass.

RECYCLING
I have to pay for a recycling bin (I'd rather have a third trash bin), so I use it if I have a lot of newspapers, magazines, cardboard, etc. that would otherwise fill up my trash bins. I only recycle if it's convenient. I don't sort in my house, but if I'm out and go to throw a water bottle (YES -- I said water bottle) away, I'll use a recycle bin if it's there. Otherwise, in the trash.

COMPOSTING
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WATER CONSERVATION
I water just enough to keep my grass from dying. I don't do much landscaping. Unless you get a separate meter for outdoor water use, ours is pretty expensive. If I watered much, I'd get one installed.

VEHICLES
I own 6 cars, encompassing 48 cylinders, 1732 horsepower and 24000 lbs. My '70 GP gets about 8MPG in town. The EXT gets about 12, and 17 on the highway. The DTS gets about 15 in town and 22 on the highway. The Concours gets about the same. The wagons get anywhere from 11-14 in town and 20-24 on the highway.

I also live a half mile from my office and a mile from the grocery store I use most often -- unlike some who want to get preachy on gas mileage, yet live 30 miles from work -- one way. My mileage comes into play on road trips -- typically going to STL to see my Dad, but other places too. Those trips are more discretionary, so I can make them if I want, or if gas hits $10/gallon, then not so much. I may swap my Concours for my old Riviera S/C that my Dad currently has. That will get me up to 25/26 MPG on the highway if I were to really need it. At anything close to what we're paying now, that's all I plan on doing. If it's permanently $10/gal, then I might look at some kind of diesel for my highway use.

So basically, what am I "doing to be green"? Nothing.

EDIT: I'm willing to hunker down for $5/6/7 gas -- whatever it takes for there to be such a public uproar, that we start drilling our own damn oil and get these prices down. Hopefully it peaks right at the election. I'm all for every kind of energy...oil, nukes, coal, nat gas, wind, solar, hydro, bio (if not foodstocks) whatever. But not at the expense of oil now.
 

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If you could care less, how much do you currently care, Florian?

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OMG, Gary...77 in the summer? I'd die.
Wussy. :lol: 77 is quite comfortable in my house, especially with ceiling fans.

if I'm in the house, it's 72 max and sometimes down to 68.
We have an HVAC system with a mind of its own at work, and when the thermostat is set at 72º, it's often freezing in my office. 68º? Do you wear a jacket inside?

Classifying CO2 as a pollutant means that every tree and plant should be uprooted. See how long we last then.
Don't forget, plants also absorb CO2.
 

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That's the point...if it's so bad, then we might as well get rid of our holy trees that use it. Of course, we then lose our oxygen, but that's not a big deal........

Yes I am a summer wuss. Zip it! ;-)
 

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I waste everything I can afford to - I'm an American for heaven's sake! I don't buy into the religion of environmentalism, I feel sorry for those who do. I guarantee my ice cold air conditioned house and gas guzzling cars make up for 2 or three hundred libs who think they are saving the earth by depriving themselves of life's simple comforts and pleasures; I'm so happy they're leaving more resources for me to consume. :)
 

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I do what little I can like recycling, not buying bottled water, turning off power strips at night, using 6th gear around town :shifty
 

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I guess I'm not very green, but try not to be overly wasteful. No recycling, very few CFLs, and a 350 powered Roadmaster as a DD.
 

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I have one full sized truck to represent each of the big three. May as well be red.
 

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Home is 2,500 sq.ft. - 68 in winter, 80 in summer. 6 ceiling fans.
12 month electric bill average is about $110/mo.
House was built in '87, every side wall and every interior wall is fully insulated.
Carrier high efficiency heat pump with a fossil fuel kit - no standby electrical coils
Well water from a deep, clean aquifer.
Hot water heater set at 120.
Septic system, maintained and pumped every 5 years. Non-smokers, no grease.
Separate washing machine collector and drain field.
3 large compost piles and mulch all leaves.
Recycle everything including coolant. Lube oil goes to Charlie for a shop furnace
Lotsa fluorescents - 1000bulbs.com - but they're slow outside in winter.
Cut, split, and stack our own hardwood and burn about 1.5 cords a winter.

That's the green stuff............other indulgences such as car, truck, boat, bourbon, ammunition, lawn tractor, the very fact of human existence, ................ not so "green".
 

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I waste everything I can afford to - I'm an American for heaven's sake! I don't buy into the religion of environmentalism, I feel sorry for those who do. I guarantee my ice cold air conditioned house and gas guzzling cars make up for 2 or three hundred libs who think they are saving the earth by depriving themselves of life's simple comforts and pleasures; I'm so happy they're leaving more resources for me to consume. :)
I don't believe I'm sacrificing any comforts or pleasures by my modest practices.

I keep my thermostat at 77º in the summer because it's comfortable. My electric bill last August was $45. If I needed it to be set lower to be comfortable, I can certainly afford to and wouldn't hesitate to do so. When I lived in Phoenix and faced summer electric bills in the hundreds, I gave up some comfort because a lower thermostat would just make the electric meter spin a lot faster.

I'm certainly no environmental extremist, but I think being wasteful out of spite is just silly.
 
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