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I just bought a 93 DeVille. I'm trying to find info on the service SSS light that stays on.

I found this link :

http://www.samscars.com/gf10.html

which was helpful, but if anyone else has any other ideas or comments I'd like to hear. It seems it's a strut related issue, but is it OK to not worry about it. It seems to drive fine, as I've already put 1000 miles on a road trip without any noticeable problems.

Also the Antilock light stays lit. Is it safe to drive with this light on ?
 

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When the antilock is on, that means that for some reason it has malfunctioned and is disabled...... Which means that normal braking will be OK, but you dont have ABS...... I would take out the ABS fuse to be safe........
 

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Obviously, without getting the codes, it's hard to diagnose the issues here but I will say that generally speaking, the RSS type of stuff is not a safety-related issue but the ABS-related stuff DEFINATELY is. I have seen ABS system failures cause all kinds of safety problems such as a sudden rock-hard brake pedal, or one that actually pushes back at you when you try to apply the brakes. I know of at least 2 accidents caused by these issues and for that reason I would limit the driving of the car until the ABS system fault(s) is diagnosed and repaired.
 

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Katshot said:
Obviously, without getting the codes, it's hard to diagnose the issues here but I will say that generally speaking, the RSS type of stuff is not a safety-related issue but the ABS-related stuff DEFINATELY is. I have seen ABS system failures cause all kinds of safety problems such as a sudden rock-hard brake pedal, or one that actually pushes back at you when you try to apply the brakes. I know of at least 2 accidents caused by these issues and for that reason I would limit the driving of the car until the ABS system fault(s) is diagnosed and repaired.
Thanks for the help, I will definitely look into repairing the ABS asap.

Also I haven't been able to pull any codes using the OFF button / Warmer trick.
 

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When the antilock is on, that means that for some reason it has malfunctioned and is disabled...... Which means that normal braking will be OK, but you dont have ABS...... I would take out the ABS fuse to be safe........
Should I just pull the 10 amp fuse under the dash. There are two other maxi fuses a 30 and 40 amp that are ABS related.

I'm still going to get it fixed, but I need it as safe as possible right now.
 

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Sorry about the triple post here, I reseated the MAXI fuses and the light went out. I'm hoping for the best.
 

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I bought a 93 DeVille about 4 years ago. This light was on when I bought it; I didn't realize what it meant, but the seller did, I'm sure.

Anyway, we are still daily driving the DeVille. After about 18 months, the dash SSS light burnt out. Thank God for small favors. Car drove better from that point on!

Waiting for the same problem to surface on my 96 SLS,


Paul G.
 

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WAS INCORRECT ON MY ORIGINAL POST I EDITED AND FIXED THE TERMINAL LOCATIONS



I have the same problem with a Service SSS light also on my Cadillac. I work at a mechanic shop and have access to the all data mechanic aid program, and let me say its a big help. If you have a paper clip you can read the diagnostic code numbers and if you want I will look them up and give you the diagnostic procedure you can use. Take the paper clip and make it in the shape of a U. Then under the middle of your front passenger compartment under the radio by where your feet go you will see a large 12 pin connector. I know its on the LEFT side of the connector, TOWARD THE DRIVER'S SIDE, but i'm not sure if its the top or the bottom portion since its pretty much like this

......|......
.OOOOOO
.OOOOOO
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but you have to stick the paper clip in either these two holes (marked as x's)

......|...... <-- that is the top marker tab for connector position
.OOOXOX
.OOOOOO
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BE CAREFUL CAUSE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE CONNECTOR ITS UPSIDE DOWN
SO POSITION THE PAPER ACCORDINGLY TO MATCH UP


Its pins A and C according to the ALL data Program if that helps
Now you turn the key to the on position (with out starting) all the dashboard lights will display including the service sss light. you know you picked the right pins when after the light goes out it begins to flash
it will flash once then pause a second and then flash twice together (this signifies a #12 code which means it is entering diagnostic) three times before displaying the actual trouble code. So you pretty much understand how you would read the codes after the three 12's that will flash out.. then you will get the codes listed. I got a code 24 on my car 2 quick flashes one second pause then 4 quick flashes. It will do each code three times before displaying the next. When it does the 12 code again that means it finished the code list and will start again.
email me at [email protected] and I would be glad to help in any way I can
 

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Katshot said:
Obviously, without getting the codes, it's hard to diagnose the issues here but I will say that generally speaking, the RSS type of stuff is not a safety-related issue but the ABS-related stuff DEFINATELY is. I have seen ABS system failures cause all kinds of safety problems such as a sudden rock-hard brake pedal, or one that actually pushes back at you when you try to apply the brakes. I know of at least 2 accidents caused by these issues and for that reason I would limit the driving of the car until the ABS system fault(s) is diagnosed and repaired.
:hmm: I have a 91 with "anti-lock" light on since I bought it. Been driving it for more than 2years every single day and have never had a problem with the brakes. Personally, I think anti-lock brakes suck and are not worth fixing. The regular brakes work just fine without antilock. Trust me I know. The Caddy dealer told me the same, "they're not worth fixing, anti-lock is actually annoying".:coolgleam
 

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Antilock brakes have saved me in quite a few occasions in some nasty weather. And they are no worse and do not activate unless your wheels lock up during a extreme stop. So I don't see how they could be annoying since you probably only use them maybe 2-3 times a year at most, but when you do use them, they can be a savior!
 

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2-3 times a year?

my DeVille has cheap front tires, and it is impossble to not spin the tires pulling out in rain, and even under normal stopping in rain the ABS ALWAYS kicks on..... my Olds (winte car) dosn't have it, and I am fine without it... but still... I like it, I just don't make a big deal with it or without... but i know how to drive a car without ABS, so it is ok
 

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dude cheap tires or worn out. My car kicks ass in the rain or snow. I got Michelins on it. Maybe you should invest more in good tires and you won't have the problem w/ the abs kickin on. Sounds to me like you have no tread left on your tires, which is dangerous to you and everyone around you. Dip into the wallet if you want this car to last.
 

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The car has Vouges on the back with OK tread left, and the private dealer I bought the car form (in FL) put brand new tires on the front.... but they are cheap kinds..... Enduro Runway or something like that....

.... I am gonna keep them, as they are still good, until I get the '98+ SLS wheels, since they are bigger then my 15" wheels, I'll get new tires then.... but for now, the tires stay....
 
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