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Hi everyone, here is the question:

Zero human population growth is the point at which birth rate and death rate are equal. Some countries or areas have reached this. Does this mean that these places are now maintaining habitats and species numbers at present levels? Why or why not?

My Fiance and I have to come up with an answer, and we are stumped!
 

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See also: Malthus, Sir Thomas.

Conspiracy theorists point toward crack cocaine, homosexual unions and AIDS--claiming that the ultra-wealthy are playing some kind of societal engineering game, not just in this country, but world-wide.
 

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Ralph said:
My Fiance and I have to come up with an answer, and we are stumped!

Ralphie.....Go in the house and sit by the fire for a while. I think the cold air is beginning to have a negative effect on you.
 

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Ralphie.....Go in the house and sit by the fire for a while. I think the cold air is beginning to have a negative effect on you.
Well, at least we were able to go for a walk today, -5 C. So this has you stumped too KC, gee yer a smart guy, I expected more. :disappoin It is a question for Karen's Biology class. Thanks for the lead Elvis.
 

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So this has you stumped too KC, gee yer a smart guy, I expected more. :disappoin It is a question for Karen's Biology class. Thanks for the lead Elvis.

It's not that I'm stumped really........I simply don't care enough about it to waste time thinking about it.
 

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It's not that I'm stumped really........I simply don't care enough about it to waste time thinking about it.

Yes you do. Otherwise you wouldn't have posted.

KC, you seem to insult a lot of people in here :annoyed: , I ve just read your comments directed to a guy who had troublesome Eldorado in the Seville/Eldorado thread....

Just an opinion.
 

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KC, you seem to insult a lot of people in here :annoyed: , I ve just read your comments directed to a guy who had troublesome Eldorado in the Seville/Eldorado thread....

Just an opinion.
KC and I spoke about this a long time ago when it was just a few of us here. It bugs him that this is a Cadillac site and someone who claims to be a fan talks bad about them (not directed at any one person). I don't think KC goes out of his way to insult people (except Wes but thats ok) He says what he thinks and it may come across as an insult. Besides...we all pick on each other from time to time. KC is a cool dude in my book. Everytime I asked him something he always gives me an honest answer. He doesn't worry about being "polictically correct"
 

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It's not that I'm stumped really........I simply don't care enough about it to waste time thinking about it.
I respect that KC bud, don't sweat it.

Lev, KC may seem politically incorrect at times, (I am too) we comment on things that some may not like, who cares. I didn't want this thread to cause any trouble, I'm sorry, we'll just disregard it.
 

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Back to the question.....ill answer from the left

Clearly the answer is no,
Our generation uses more resources then the generations before us, America uses much more of the worlds resources then is preportional to our amount of people.....america is continuing to expand and we are passing on our bad habbits to the next generation......people are becoming worse with the environment (see h2) and the overall population is getting bigger not remaining neutral. Now there are some products that technology has allowed us to harvest faster then nature can produce (see diamonds, or tanzanite as examples) these are not unlimited resources......furthermore we produce waste that is technologically superior, but in a negative way, we are making a huge amount of trash that may keep your coffee warmer but takes billions of years to disentigrate....and oh we all dont recycle enough......all in all the worlds going to hell, but none of us will be alive to feel the true impacts, but are grandchildren are defn being screwed
 

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lev said:
It's not that I'm stumped really........I simply don't care enough about it to waste time thinking about it.

Yes you do. Otherwise you wouldn't have posted.

KC, you seem to insult a lot of people in here :annoyed: , I ve just read your comments directed to a guy who had troublesome Eldorado in the Seville/Eldorado thread....

Just an opinion.
1. No, I don't.....I was just teasing Ralphie ( He understands )

2. If you read correctly ( And you obviously didn't ) My comments were directed at the individual that replied to the thread who is pushing his idiot agenda on every Cadillac site that hasn't tossed him off.

I say what I think about what catches my eye and I'm neither politically correct nor diplomatic about it. I don't have any interest in mealy mouthed chat. If I say something that you disagree with take your best shot and don't be shy ( I'm certainly not! ) If sombody says something that I disagree with I'm not just gonna sit here and let it lie......I.M.H.O. the main thing that is wrong with society today is.....Everybody's so damned worried about offending someone who desperately needs a hard slap that nobody ever tells anyone anything of substance for fear of offending the offending party....Wake up America! It's just words! Get over it.
 

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Back to the question.....ill answer from the left

Clearly the answer is no,
Our generation uses more resources then the generations before us, America uses much more of the worlds resources then is preportional to our amount of people.....america is continuing to expand and we are passing on our bad habbits to the next generation......people are becoming worse with the environment (see h2) and the overall population is getting bigger not remaining neutral. Now there are some products that technology has allowed us to harvest faster then nature can produce (see diamonds, or tanzanite as examples) these are not unlimited resources......furthermore we produce waste that is technologically superior, but in a negative way, we are making a huge amount of trash that may keep your coffee warmer but takes billions of years to disentigrate....and oh we all dont recycle enough......all in all the worlds going to hell, but none of us will be alive to feel the true impacts, but are grandchildren are defn being screwed
Interesting, thanks! Your answer got us thinking, for example. Take North America for an example, if no one died, and no one was born for the next 100 years, the resources and species would still dwindle away because we have to maintain our typical North American lifestyles. (I think this is what you are implying) For example, we still demand products like kleenix, paper, petrolium products, burning coal, etc.
 

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Yeah ralph your catching on, but it goes even further then that, we cant even imagine how much waste big corporations go through, its like in the matrix, humans are kind of this disease to earth, but hey i like us more then i like earth
 

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Yeah ralph your catching on, but it goes even further then that, we cant even imagine how much waste big corporations go through, its like in the matrix, humans are kind of this disease to earth, but hey i like us more then i like earth

Utter nonsense!
 

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Humans are a kind of disease on earth? That's so foolish that it merits no explanation! ( You obviously went to public schools! )
 

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I can appreciate that concept. The Earth is a living organism of its own. Humans are like a destructive bacteria--some might even say a cancer.

Think about it: No other living thing on this planet damages it.

Now, my real opinion. I don't care. The Earth is big enough and resilient enough that it can overcome any damage we might do to it. Look at Lake Erie--it filtered itself after a few years. The ozone hole is closing. The new growth that is replacing the depleted rain forest actually produces MORE oxygen than the old timber that was cut.

We have a responsibility to be a good custodian and all that, but is this forum REALLY a good place for us to debate a topic like this? Think about it--we all LOVE Cadillacs, and historically they've been among the worst offenders to the environment.
 

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Actually kc i went to private schools and now i happen to go to a top 20 university on an academic scholarship, I know your alll pent up because you graduated bastard university but get a grip before you insult my education you pompous jerk
 

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Elvis, you are for the most part correct. I took an oddball class back at U of S called Environmental Philosophy, and the professor said something that stuck with me, see if you guys agree; People who like to think of themselves as being "environmentally friendly" will sell their Lincoln, Caddy, V8 whatever, and buy something like a Sprint. The problem is they eventually realize they have extra money and the wife needs a car, so they buy 2 Chevy Sprints. Then the couple decides we'll buy a car for their daughter going to college, a Chevy Sprint for example. So in the end, they are polluting even more by an extra cylender. That's one way to look at it.

However I think cars are related to a topic such as this. There is something called the Gayla Hypothesis that states humans are a destructive organism against mother earth, and mother earth will find a way to get even or rid of us. I know you will laugh KC, but there may be something to this. Do you remember a couple of years ago, fish off the Atlantic coast started to get "eaten alive" by some sort of strange organism, the news gave brief mention to this and a professor friend of mine said it is getting worse and they are keeping it quiet now! Wasn't there something strange happening to the forestry industry a while back where the trees that were previously planted started to get sick and die at the time they were to be cut down? There was no explanation for this from last I heard. I don't know, just interesting stuff I guess.
 
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