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It is very possible the car has been babied alot, hence the feeling of lack of power.... open it up for awhile and it would run alot better.
 

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It is very possible the car has been babied alot, hence the feeling of lack of power.... open it up for awhile and it would run alot better.
That might be. I can tell it was taken care of, it was very clean inside and out and ran beautifiully. It wasn't that it had a lack of power, it felt powerful, but all of the power was in the top end of the powerband...not particularly where I like it. I much prefer the torquier LD8 Northstar I drove in the '97 deVille, 95 Eldorado and Addison II's 94 SLS.
 

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The Pontiac dealer next to the dealer I work at has a triple white '93 ETC..I'll go look at it real quick after work. The only bad part is it's got 188k on it, but even so, it's clean and it will give me a rough idea of what to expect in a 1st gen Northstar.
 

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^^ triple white? Sounds very nice. The miles may be up there, but you can probably tell how strong the motor is with a good WOT! :D

Good luck.
 

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I went to go look for it yesterday, and it wasn't there. I'll try again on tuesday or something.

I'm surprised they're selling it. Most dealers would send a 188k mile Cadillac straight to the whole sellers.
 

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Well this is turning into a monday tradition of sorts..

I'm gonna go look at a '93 or '94 STS today. There is a dealer near me that has a '93 and '94, both triple white and in good shape. Now again, I'm not in the market right now, but I'm just doing this to get an idea of what I like. I'll post another review after I'm done.
 

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Engine: 6/10.
To be perfectly honest, the 300hp L37 Northstar didn't meet my expectations, I was expecting more in the way of top end power. I nailed it at 60 and it didn't feel all that much quicker than my 4.9, not to say that the L37 isn't fast, it is, but it's not the god like motor that some make it out to be, I honestly think the '98 deVille I drove a while back was faster when I'd nail it from 60MPH. That one jumped from 60-80, this one took about 2-3 seconds to get from 60-70..not impressed. I nailed it from a stop, and it was able to spin the tires at about 35 mph, which I thought was cool, but the only way to get to that power is by winding it all the way out, which isn't my cup of tea. I like lots of accessible, low end power. So obviously, if I was to ever get a Northstar Cadillac, it would be a LD8 275hp version. I really liked that motor in the '95 Eldorado I drove, it seemed like it had ~50 more horsepower than the LD8 motor..

Hmmm I find this odd. I just got back from a roadtrip where I got to be the total adrenaline junkie show off.

punching the gas to pass on a 2 lane country road resulted in the speedometer jolting from 65-115 or higher in seconds.... addictive... and the prime rib territory for the L37 (a grand tourer).

I may have contributed to an AMG getting a hefty speeding ticket (I am cautious when it comes to driving on the highway... I will speed only to pass, or to get out of the way of morons... then resume cruise at 5-9 MPH > speed limit.)

The AMG driver felt like he had to top my performance, and well... I let him go on. About 10 mins later I saw police lights in the horizon ahead and sure enough... it was the same black AMG (E series).

Also, I believe the tranny learns the shift points based on the driver. It may have taken it a while to adapt to an aggressive style.

Another possibility, is that there was an obstruction behind the accel pedal, preventing it from true WOT... I dunno. lol.

Suspension: 7.5/10.
This car is tuned too soft for aggressive driving purposes. If you get in it hard going down a curvy road, the car starts to float slightly which is really, really unnerving. Now granted, it doesn't float as bad as '92 Brougham, but it's no "canyon carver". But if you drive it more normally, it's fine. It's got an awesome ride for a sport coupe though, as good as my '92 deVille, if not smoother on the interstate. It would make for an awesome road trip car.
There is a possibility that both the springs and shocks/struts were worn. The CVRSS however, is soft by nature, and changes depending on the aggressiveness of the driver. Keep in mind that the demographics for the Eldo were men above 55, who enjoy the smooth Cadillac ride. The STS has younger demographics, and possibly a firmer, less-floaty ride.

The CVRSS comes into play for instance, when the car is porpoising (bouncing in waves). The position sensors detect it and command the strut/shock absorber to firm mode.
 

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That's what I was thinking too, the struts were worn, but it never said "Service Ride Soon" or anything like that. No lights or codes at all.

As for the acceleration, it was quick, maybe just as quick as the 93 STS I later drove (and was VERY impressed with) maybe it didn't feel as quick because this '99 was much more hushed and isolated than the '93 STS.

That makes sense though about the tranny taking a while to learn the shift points. I only had it out ~20 minutes so it wouldn't have adjusted that quick.
 

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That's what I was thinking too, the struts were worn, but it never said "Service Ride Soon" or anything like that. No lights or codes at all.

As for the acceleration, it was quick, maybe just as quick as the 93 STS I later drove (and was VERY impressed with) maybe it didn't feel as quick because this '99 was much more hushed and isolated than the '93 STS.

That makes sense though about the tranny taking a while to learn the shift points. I only had it out ~20 minutes so it wouldn't have adjusted that quick.
Worn struts/shocks do not throw codes. The electronic sensors and the valve throw the code, but nothing inside the shock/strut to give feedback as to whether they work or not.

Regarding the "hushed" that's very true. I forget what year, but possibly 95, the Northstar equipped Caddys got larger mufflers and a resonator, because there were enough complaints as to them being too loud (likely by the main consumers--retirees).

The only thing not hushed about the Eldo, is anything over 80 MPH. Wind noise is crazy probably due to the frameless glass on the doors.
 

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:yeah: about the 80+ wind noise. Below that, quite as a library.

The 4T80-E can learn shift points...I didn't think it was adaptive.
 

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Hello my name is Ron
I am in Buffalo NY I have a 1999 red eldorado !! 26,000 original miles, Florida car !! am looking for a used red xlr conv. trade to buy...any help would be appreciated

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