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A dealer has informed me the dealer installed bluetooth pack will still not be available at launch and is still a few months out. They do not have pricing and will not commit to a price without it:mad:.

How hard can bluetooth be to figure out???
 

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Thats ok. I'll order up the bluetooth pack from gmpartshouse.com (great pricing and service) and then pay someone to have it installed ...

I like the feature even though GM touts Onstar as the wave of the future.

Most of the time GM gives one year free service with onstar so by the time the year is up. Blue tooth will be available for installation. IMO
 

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More bluetooth info from a Dealer and help needed

They have basically said they have no idea about bluetooth. The sales person said he talk with service, parts and up through the managers and no one there has any definitive info on bluetooth availability. They said it will be at least 3-4 months out if they do it, but they do not know what the dealer install option will contain and nobody there has been trained. They even said they might not offer it at all :confused:.

I explained how Cadillac's own website says it will be available, which they acted amazed. They have been told their existing bluetooth that they have been installing on 1st gen CTS will work on the 2nd gen, but will not be the functionallity of the STS.

Are there any dealers, insiders or consumers that can shed the light on the bluetooth mystery?? Did Cadillac really drop the ball here or are dealers just not informed?
 

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Re: More bluetooth info from a Dealer and help needed

They are installing Blue tooth on 1st Gen CTS's??? THis sounds made up for sure...THere is nothing available except aftermarket.....

Sounds like your dealers a MORON!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes it is aftermarket, but dealer installed. Even the sales person said it was inferior to the STS from the factory functionallity.

We need some legit info, come on supporting dealers and insiders.
 

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Re: More bluetooth info from a Dealer and help needed

Yes it is aftermarket, but dealer installed. Even the sales person said it was inferior to the STS from the factory functionallity.

We need some legit info, come on supporting dealers and insiders.
If its inferior to the STS, look out. I had many problems getting mine to work only to find out from the manufacturer fo the unit (Denso) that they didn't spend much time engineering the unit and only tested three phones for compatability. It just does not seem to be a priority for GM.
 

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I'll talk to my friend in the assembly plant and ask him if he knows anything about bluetooth on CTS.
He can usually find out or tell me who to talk to.

I'll let you know as soon as I hear something.

I have another question in to him, but the plant was recently shut down for retooling and they are probably concentrating on production of the new cars.
 

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Re: More bluetooth info from a Dealer and help needed

They are installing Blue tooth on 1st Gen CTS's??? THis sounds made up for sure...THere is nothing available except aftermarket.....

Sounds like your dealers a MORON!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nope, there was or is a Cadillac Bluetooth install available for the 1st gen CTS!!!

There is a memebr from Spain here and he had it installed, but was not amazed by it. The install required to replace the functionality of the steering wheel buttons.
 

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I'll talk to my friend in the assembly plant and ask him if he knows anything about bluetooth on CTS.
He can usually find out or tell me who to talk to.

I'll let you know as soon as I hear something.

I have another question in to him, but the plant was recently shut down for retooling and they are probably concentrating on production of the new cars.
That would be great. It just seems hard to get a complete and final answer from anyone:confused:. Cadillac states it will have bluetooth, but will not state to what degree it will be. Is it fully integrated, partially integrated or complete aftermarket with no tie in to existing hardware. Cadillac says it is a simple dealer install, yet a major Cadillac dealer in Texas has no idea and has not been given any info. They talk about all the training they will need and have no idea about pricing. Does not sound very simple.
 

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I sent a message to the radio person in the plant for CTS, STS and SRX.
It might be a few days before I hear from her, but I'll let you know.
 

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Got an answer somewhat on bluetooth. This is a start :)

Kevin-
Appreciate your interest! Let's make this the last word on the much-discussed Bluetooth topic. The dealers are being advised of this system this month. There's nothing real complex here: the dealer accessory is a version of the popular "AutoIntelligence" Blue Connect system: (www.autointelligence.com.) Check out the details there, encourage your dealer to do the same, and/or keep their eyes out for more info from Cadillac on it.


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Just visited 'Cadillac Drivers' Log' (cadillac.gmblogs.com), and saw a comment posted there yesterday on the issue of Bluetooth on the '08 CTS. Here is the link to the page: http://cadillac.gmblogs.com/2007/08/post_4.html
If this represents the true situation as far as Bluetooth "integration" is concerned for the '08 CTS, then I suspect there'll be quite a few people put off by this, and who may want to shop elsewhere for an alternate vehicle, if true Bluetooth integration is an important matter for them.
It's hard to believe Cadillac missed the boat on this one. Think it's a combination of GM/Cadillac underestimating the importance of Bluetooth with consumers, as well as catering to their cousins at OnStar. Maybe they'll get all of this right on the 2009 CTS.
 

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As far as I understood it was not a technical problem, but a license issue. Just be patient
 

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As far as I understood it was not a technical problem, but a license issue. Just be patient
I'm the most patient guy in the world. I've had my '08 CTS on order since June 6th, and the car hasn't been built yet.
Anyway, what is it exactly that should we remain patient for? For Cadillac to get a Bluetooth licensing matter straightened out in the next few months, and THEN they'll start building CTS's with Bluetooth integrated and enabled from the factory? By that time there'll be thousands of '08 CTS's already built & delivered (including my vehicle), all without Blutetooth integration.
I've yet to hear an accurate, detailed comment from GM on the issue of Bluetooth integration for the new CTS.
Infiniti & BMW (and others) got this thing correct, right out of the box. Why can't Cadillac?
 

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I haven't heard back from anyone that might actually know something.

I guess if you read it on the internet it must be true though. :D ;)
 

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I'll have my corvette tech who is world class certified install the bluetooth option if my wife wants it.

Not a deal breaker in my opinion and I'm sure it'll be easy.

Thanks for the heads up..

Good to see GM make the tough decision to offer blue tooth even with its push on Onstar. Smart move to offer what the consumers want.

I personally think GM should offer ON star with a seperate phone from the vehicle on star system but working in conjunction..

I don't quite see the value of onstar with so many people having cell phones.. ?

A coordinated effort of say verizon and onstar for both vehicle and cell phone service makes more sense to me. (but what do I know) :lol:
 

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I'll have my corvette tech who is world class certified install the bluetooth option if my wife wants it.
Not a deal breaker in my opinion and I'm sure it'll be easy.
Thanks for the heads up..
Good to see GM make the tough decision to offer blue tooth even with its push on Onstar. Smart move to offer what the consumers want.
I personally think GM should offer ON star with a seperate phone from the vehicle on star system but working in conjunction..
I don't quite see the value of onstar with so many people having cell phones.. ?
A coordinated effort of say verizon and onstar for both vehicle and cell phone service makes more sense to me. (but what do I know) :lol:
JB, I think you're missing the point here. GM has NOT as yet made the tough decision to offer full & proper Bluetooth integration on later production of the '08 CTS. What they're suggesting at the moment is for people to obtain an aftermarket device (pack) which comes with its own speaker, etc., and the thing is mounted as a total "add-on" to the ceiling of the car. This aftermarket device will NOT integrate into the CTS's audio and infotainment system, such as it does on Infiniti's, BMW's and the lot.
Would you want to screw a questionable aftermarket device into the ceiling of your new CTS? I think not.
With proper Bluetooth integration on a vehicle, the cell phone's call functions are tapped into the car's audio system and display / infotainment screen. For example, the address book that is programmed in the phone would be viewable on the car's infotainment display, and you can manage calls looking at the car's display. There are a lot of other advantages as well with full Bluetooth integration in a vehicle, but I won't bore you with all of that. Suggest you and others do some research on this, and you'll see that Cadillac is behind the curve on this one.
Deal breaker? Probably not for the majority of people at the moment, but for some it will be.
 
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