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Photos of the SLS "Elite" "Administrative" "Comfort" "Luxury" 2.0T & 3.0L

I did some digging online and got a TON of pics for the SLS and some videos too, but I need to convert the videos to they display properly still.

Here are some pics, I have about 1000 total in the photobucket albums. Some are not the best resolution but a good deal of them are HD quality.

http://s1174.photobucket.com/albums/r612/Ludacrisvp/
To see them all make sure to click the "View all albums" as not all of the SLS albums show up







2.0T Administrative


I am very irritated that our STS does not have this!!


2.0T Comfort


2.0T Elite


2.0T Luxury


Odd buttons...


Rear Console 3.0L Luxury


 

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Re: Photos of the SLS "Elite" "Administrative" "Comfort" "Luxury" 2.0T & 3.0L

...very nice pics...thank you linking and sharing...

...and that is what they have forgotten for our cars...a "lockable" fuel door (...there is a metal tab with a small hole in the fuel door...for a little pin/pintle, controlled by/with the power door locks/central locking system...)
...export STS didn't get this feature either...(I've got a lockable fuel cap...crap)

...and I really like the LED-backup lights...and the red taillamps with the little white LED-section for the amber turnsignal (...and no, this is not another pair of backup lights...;) )





...hm...the facelift-SLS didn't get any sidemarker-lamps in the front- and rear bumper anymore...
 

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The 3 LEDs for turn signals just seems so small that I didn't even think of them being signals. But it makes a lot of sense since the USA is about the only place that uses red for brakes and turn signals. I feel all cars should have amber signals in the rear.

Oh and I miss having the locked fuel door that my 02 DeVille DTS had.
 

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The 3 LEDs for turn signals just seems so small that I didn't even think of them being signals. But it makes a lot of sense since the USA is about the only place that uses red for brakes and turn signals.
...yes...:)
...and as you can see, this taillights got an ECE-label, an european certification label/registration/regulation and approval number (like your DOT number) with a letter-figure combination...many countries adopted the ECE regulations...looks like China, too...

R1-S1 2a 1B
02 01 02
E9 (in a circle)
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6094

...well, the
R1 denotes "tail light"
S1 -"brake light"
2a - "turn signal - rear" (and the ECE regulations also say turn signals have to light up amber)
1B - "rear red reflector"
02 01 02 are some revision numbers
E9 denotes the european approval indicator and the country in which the approval for the lamp originally was obtained/manufactured...the E9 denotes "Spain"...
6094 - ECE approval number

(Note: an "AR" will be a back-up light)





Oh and I miss having the locked fuel door that my 02 DeVille DTS had.
...me too...since my 97 Seville STS had it also...;) :D
 

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Yes, it is very small. I personally prefer the old version. However this administrative version is so powerful, given it is only 2.0T!
 

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Re: Photos of the SLS "Elite" "Administrative" "Comfort" "Luxury" 2.0T & 3.0L

where can i get those "T" emblems????
 

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The 3 LEDs for turn signals just seems so small that I didn't even think of them being signals. But it makes a lot of sense since the USA is about the only place that uses red for brakes and turn signals. I feel all cars should have amber signals in the rear.
...quoted once more...for a side note...
...maybe a little offtopic in this thread...but...here a teaser...(aka "revealing my next addition" ;) )
 

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...quoted once more...for a side note...
...maybe a little offtopic in this thread...but...here a teaser...(aka "revealing my next addition" ;) )
Hmm... that looks like SLS China tails on that STS.
I do have to wonder about the odd thing under your right rear marker light??

So since China has LEDs everywhere in the SLS are the marker lights LED in the China SLS ....... oh wait thats right THEY HAVE NONE.
 

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Hmm... that looks like SLS China tails on that STS.
Yes…I changed my clear euro tails to the newer 2010-up SLS tails…they are completely different from the typical red US tails…layout, function, color...they are and they look very unique… ;)

I do have to wonder about the odd thing under your right rear marker light??
...ah...;) …well, yes...the "odd thing" under my right rear side-marker is just a LPG tank filler cap...

...this cap covers the ACME thread equipped filler/connection for my LPG tank…
(LPG – Liquefied Petroleum Gas...propane/butane mix...known also as "autogas"…or in the US mainly known just as "propane")
...it is to couple a typical LPG filler nozzle...the LPG tank is located in the spare wheel area in the trunk...

...my STS is a "bi-fuel vehicle"...it has a LPG-conversion... (this was a very expensive "upgrade" in the past...regular offered by Cadillac Europe...incl. the full warranty...)
The LPG system is a Teleflex GFI system. Teleflex GFI has been a regular supplier of LPG systems for Cadillac in Europe since 2006, and manufactured conversion equipment for the CTS, SRX, STS and Escalade models.

So since China has LEDs everywhere in the SLS are the marker lights LED in the China SLS ....... oh wait thats right THEY HAVE NONE.
...:cool: :D ;) ...for the side-marker...you know, the older (pre-2010) Cadillac SLS got the typical amber side-marker, known from the most export STS (and they also got the clear "euro" taillights)...so they contain only conventional W3W or type 194 bulbs... (for my car I changed my orange/amber export STS side-marker to the red US parts...)

 

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Wow that is interesting I never expected that would have been available
 

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So how did you obtain these SLS lamps?

Next thing to get is the bixeon HID lamps and the newer fogs.
 

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So how did you obtain these SLS lamps?
How are you guys getting the part numbers for these?
…well…the same way I got my SLS led backup/reverse lights….;) :D
…our dear member Alex (nickname “targetSTS” in the forums) and his chinese partner managed this (order) for me…ok…these parts are very pricy…and shipping from China to Germany isn’t really cheap…;)…plus the costs for tax/VAT/customs duty…but they are brand new…and I wanted them…changing was plug and play…
…we (Alex and me) were a little worried about the shipping from China…cause this parts are fragile and there could have been also breaking/damaging during transportation…but luckily no problems…

…for part numbers…that’s a good question…like I said once before…I got none…I don’t know how they manage this in China…:)

Next thing to get is the bixeon HID lamps and the newer fogs.
:D :D…oh yeah…these newer SLS fogs/led drl/led turn signals are very nice…I like them…but this parts will involve/need a complete new (2010-up SLS) front facia, grille and maybe some unknown/different parts like deflector, spoiler, retainer, rivets, screws…that’s a little to much money…;) :D
…for the bi-xenon/LED headlamps...yes...I think these parts should fit…the lamp housing has the same dimension like the stock headlamps or HIDs…and some of the newer SLS still got the same ECE approved export headlamps/Xenon HIDs like my (the export) STS…;)
…but I think, this parts will be to expensive, too…:( ( they are similar to the Gen 2 CTS headlamps (the design)…and also ECE approved)

(…to get or import a complete SLS…for a reasonable price…yes…this is it…;) )

...but there are still some neat little parts from the newer and older SLS I still want…
 

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Yeah I had him get me a pair of the reverse lights

Now the major question how much are you planning to sell your export tails for? Hahaha
 

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Now the major question how much are you planning to sell your export tails for?
You don't like the Export lights last I read... (I think part of your issue with amber signals is that when they aren't LEDs the amber covering flakes off of the signal lamp making them look washed out or whitish, or if they have the amber plastic lens it just looks odd)
Are you interested in them or just curious if he will attempt to re-sell them?

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@ PontiacV8
-- Can we get a video of parking lights / signals / brakes / reverse / reverse fogs ?
Would be nice to see all the lights in operation.


I'd like to know more about the LPG conversion...
Cost? Mileage? How do you switch from running one to the other? Performance? Odor?
 

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Correct curious what hell get for them. I still have my hate for yellow lights. I'm still working on how to disable the drls.
 

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I think these are going to be the only route to take to remove DRL.

(I am not a DRL fan at all)

CTS LED front signals


http://www.autolumination.com/switchback.html



AW - Amber - White
The Amber -White (AW) Switchback bulb has special circuitry inside that senses when there is voltage on the (amber) turn signal circuit.
Whenever there is voltage on the (amber) turn signal circuit, the bulb switches to amber mode.
The result is that in most vehicles, the switch back bulb will flash amber-white-amber-white, whenever the turn signal is activated and the headlights are on.

In some vehicles, the power to the (white) running light circuit is automatically switched off whenever the turn signal is activated.
In these cases, the AW switchback will flash amber-off-amber off whenever the turn signal is activated.

In most vehicles, the AW switchback will flash amber-off-amber off whenever the turn signal is activated and the headlights/running lights are off..


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AO - Amber - Off

The Amber -Off (AO) Switchback bulb has special circuitry inside that senses when there is voltage on the (amber) turn signal circuit.
Whenever there is voltage on the (amber) turn signal circuit, the bulb switches off power to the (white) running light circuit for 2 seconds.
The result is that in most vehicles, the switch back bulb will flash amber-off-amber off whenever the turn signal is activated, even when there is power to the (white) running light circuit.

The bulb will switchback to white if the headlights are switched on and the turn signal circuit is switched off for 2 seconds.

The bulb will switchback to off if the headlights are switched off and the turn signal circuit is switched off for 2 seconds.
 

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Don't think it will work. Our cars use a 2 wire system for the turn signal drl bulbs. When turn is activated it flashes that drl.
The V also used a 2 wire setup, the thread I linked to above the video shows what he did on the V to get this to work.
 

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@ PontiacV8
-- Can we get a video of parking lights / signals / brakes / reverse / reverse fogs ?
Would be nice to see all the lights in operation.

I'd like to know more about the LPG conversion...
Cost? Mileage? How do you switch from running one to the other? Performance? Odor?
:D :) ...I will try to make a video...my old canon powershot should be capable…but it could last a few days more…at least I take some pictures…

…questions for the LPG conversion…isn’t that easy for me to tell/write/explain in english (you know, I’m german… ;) ) so...sorry for misspelling...lets try:

Costs…well…gas prices in Germany…or (Western-) Europe are high…very high…
…1 L premium gasoline is something around 1.609 Euro (95 RON) to 1.649 Euro (98 RON) (and 95 RON “E10”-gas is 1.569 Euro at the moment)
...LPG is about 0.689 Euro converted on one liter gasoline here in my home town in Germany.
I’m living near the Dutch border...LPG in the Netherlands is a little cheaper…at 0.569 Euro…sometimes I get it there on the way to work...

Mileage…good question…I got a 12 – 13 L/100 km (whatever this is in mpg) on a rural/city mix…mostly there is an average LPG consumption from 1 - 2 L/100 km more than on gasoline…Autobahn (or your highways) a little better…(and only city drive…ok..hell…;) I think)
(”AUTOBAHN”-drive on the german manner is another question…)

Performance is almost the same, I real don’t feel anything in “normal” driving…the papers say there is a possible lost of about 14 - 22 KW running on LPG, depending on the engine-type the system is used…(e.g.: LP1: 14, LY7: 17, LH2: 22)

Odor…there is no…or almost no odor…only if you stay outside at the back of the car you can smell the typical LPG “odor” at the exhaust, when the engine is running…

Operation of the LPG system:
…the system arms…:D…ok, the system engages when you start the car…but there is an extra little “main”-switch to turn the system “on” or “off” completely (this switch is also a little “fuel gauge” for the LPG tank)…generally the switch is “on”…so there is nothing to do…you can always switch between gasoline or LPG…manually with the switch…no problem…
...system switches and starts to run automatically on gasoline when the LPG tank is empty… (but near empty you get an endless annoying “beep beep”…so you are automatically pushed to switch manual in the first…;)
…the car always starts and has to start on gasoline (regardless if the system is powered-on or not)…so when you start the car in the morning/cold…and the system is “on”, the car runs the first 2-3 min or 1-2 miles on gasoline…when the cooling system/water has reached a specified temperature the armed LPG system automatically switches from running on gasoline to LPG…(sometimes you feel a little "bump")
…the complete LPG system is operated and controlled by its own ECU/computer system...in conjunction with the cars own system… (don’t ask for details…;) :D )…the programming is made from the LPG system manufacturer…

...hmm...this CTS-DRL-mod is interesting...
I have to buy a Helms manual more once again...:D
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Now the major question how much are you planning to sell your export tails for? Hahaha
:D …I keep them….I like them, no need to sell…and so I can switch between the lights…when ever I want…;)
…and if I sell or change the car, I can change back and hold the SLS tails…
…btw…on Ebay (Germany) there is a used pair Euro tails for 400 Euro (about 517 US-$) each lamp atm…(but that’s a little to much), a new set from a Cadillac dealer here in Europe will be much more and more expensive, too…
I know the prices in the US...and incl. shipping/tax/VAT/customs duty I will pay the same or little less for a new set like the ebay used above…
…I wish I also could get one of the GM accessory 3rd brake lights…:D ;)

Correct curious what hell get for them. I still have my hate for yellow lights. I'm still working on how to disable the drls.
…well…and I wish I could have or could activate the typical US/Canada DRLs…:D
(so…if anybody knows…;) )

…almost all export STS got DRL delete “T62 - LIGHTING DAYTIME RUNNING DELETE”
(…only Norway has a special version of DRL, which is completely different from the US/Canada-based system…the Norway-system incl. head or parking- and taillamps on start, iirc)

…I don’t know how they managed it to delete the DRL on the export cars…but 3157/3757NA bulb and lamp housing are the same on export STS…also same part-# …and IIRC the harness/connectors are the same...
 
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