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Last quarter EXXON/Mobil made 5.5 cents profit on each gallon of gasoline refined and sold in the U.S.. That figure generally holds for other refiners. Now take a look at the tax each state adds to the cost of gasoline - the federal tax per gallon is 18.4 cents - anything over that figure on this map is what your state is gouging you for. The rest of the per-gallon cost goes to the distributor and station franchisee.

Click the map to zoom in ........

http://www.exxonmobilperspectives.com/2014/02/07/this-gasoline-tax-map-explains-a-lot/?utm_source=Outbrain&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Perspectives_-_Full_Site

http://www.foxbusiness.com/industries/2015/02/20/say-goodbye-to-2-gas/
 

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In most states the gasoline taxes, both state and federal, pay for the construction and upkeep of the road system. This form of taxation allocates the cost of the road transportation infrastructure to those who use and benefit from good roads. In addition to fuel taxes, commercial vehicles pay additional taxes based on their mileage and weight.

For all those who favor a "Flat Tax" and "Consumption Tax," taxes on fuels is about as combines the merits of both forms of taxation. Maybe more of the same is the way to go!
 

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If VDOT and MDOT got all the collected fuel tax monies we'd all be driving on miles of heated oriental rugs. As it is, the state legislatures are adept at transferring a LOT of money from various forms of taxes and fees over to the General Fund to support their pork barrel handouts and boondoggles.

My wife was a career Federal DOT auditor, Office of Inspector General, specializing in state transportation and roads agencies. Some (a lot) of the stuff they uncovered concerning federal and state money laundering - and reported on - was suppressed and swept under the rug.

Such actions are common - for 12 years I served on the Maryland Boat Act Advisory Committee, Department of Natural Resources. We advised the Secretary and Governor on boating safety and legislation. During my 3 years as Chairman the state transferred over $12,000,000 in boating license and registration fees out of Waterway Management over to the General Fund in order to help the over-budget administration look golden. Such corruption is common, and our road/fuel taxes are a prime cash cow.
 

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They the States are bad , but do not hold a candle to the Federal Government and their waste. I could go on but let's try to keep this from being political.
 

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The high jacking of Social Security funds by legislators was and is far greater than the misuse of gas taxes!
 

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Karen's assessment of the PENDOT money management system and highways maintenance contracts was "Put the money on the stump at midnight and run like hell !"

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The high jacking of Social Security funds by legislators was and is far greater than the misuse of gas taxes!
Thank you, Harry Truman !
 

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Oregon is trying to pass something right now that will effectively remove the state gas taxes, but impose a per-mile-driven road tax. I absolutely hate the idea.
 

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We just voted to put a stop to automatic increases in the gas tax .
They'll just find some way on Beacon Hill to nullify it .
 

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^ The amount of taxes they pay on EVERYTHING in UK and some other European countries is insane.

To get back on topic of US gas taxes, the current method of using this tax to repair and expand our roads is unsustainable. As Sub pointed out, crooked politicians raiding gas tax money to balance their general budget is one problem.

Perhaps a bigger problem for the way we collect gas taxes is the increased fuel efficiency of the nation's vehicle fleet over the past 10-20 years.
Since gas taxes are a flat rate, not a percentage of the price like sales tax, the less gas we use the less revenue is collected. This is really bad news since our infrastrcture is aging, the population is booming, all in all our current system of funding road construction is completely unsustainable over the long run
 

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They should eliminate federal and state gas taxes. For road maintenance, let the states decide what taxes they want to impose. Heck, they could even have the citizens vote on it.

Case in point, Gillette, WY has a 6% sales tax, as opposed to what I believe is a 5% sales tax elsewhere in the state. It was voted in by the residents of Gillette. The sales tax pays for city projects, including and featuring roadwork. Gillette has NICE roads. I like that concept.
 

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As a Montrealer and Quebec citizen (Canada) I have only one thing to say about that: AMATEURS.

This (below) is per liter of fuel, that's how fuel is sold in Canada.

http://retail.petro-canada.ca/en/fuelsavings/2139.aspx

We pay on average a 31% over the "normal" price, for taxes. In Montreal, right now we're paying 118.9 cents/liter which equates to about 4.75$/gallon.

You cross the border to Ontario, and you save 25 cents/liter... yep, a dollar a gallon cheaper across the Ontario border.

So yeah. Amateurs.

PS, anyone who has ever come to Quebec can attest to the fact that the roads we have should'nt even qualify to be called roads. Most of the time you're better off driving a tank or a jeep on gravel. At least on gravel you EXPECT rough roads.
 

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Socialism IS expensive ..................

Back in the middle 70s gasoline was about 50¢ a gallon. Right now, here on the island, it's $2.179 a (U.S.) gallon for 87. Eat your heart out.
 

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Oregon is trying to pass something right now that will effectively remove the state gas taxes, but impose a per-mile-driven road tax. I absolutely hate the idea.
CA wants to do the same thing. Another reason for me to look for the exit.

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Socialism IS expensive ..................

Back in the middle 70s gasoline was about 50¢ a gallon. Right now, here on the island, it's $2.179 a (U.S.) gallon for 87. Eat your heart out.
The trouble with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.

--Margaret Thatcher
 
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