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I have a 2002 cadi deville dts with [COLOR=blue! important][COLOR=blue! important]onstar[/COLOR][/COLOR], nav blah blah blah and i have 2 questions

1-I noticed that it seems as if my Onstar rear view mirror is missing a button or something on the right bottom corner. Its a little hole as if it once had an LED or something there once. Did it or what? help see attached image.

2-I had the dealer make me a valet key about two years ago, you know the gray ones. Well i just noticed yesterday that it is able to unlock my [COLOR=blue! important][COLOR=blue! important]glove box[/COLOR][/COLOR]!!!!!!!!! I havent checke dthe trunk but maybe that too. How is this? I thought its not supposed to open either. i compared my key and the valet key and noticed that they differ on one side but not the other. one has a slit down the middle and otehr side does not. Whats the deal??????
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Anyhelp would be appreciated. Thanks
 

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That hole is the light sensor that sees the headlights behind you, and darkens the mirror for you, just like magic. The valet key has different grooves so that it will only work in certain key cylinders, and not in others.

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i posted tthe thread in another section in this forum and they told me-
"the Valet key is not supposed to start the car only open the glove, door and trunk."

My response was-
What????????:confused: My grey valet key unlocks/locks glove, opens/ locks door and starts car. If it's supposed to have no ignition capablites, then why would it be called "VALET" key. Arent you suppossed to give the valet a "valet" key so that you can have them move your car for a certain distance,but have no access to the trunk and glove?

if your right, then the valet switch inside the glove box is useless because theyll still be able to unlock the glove with eiteher key. ( black original or gray valet)

if the grey valet key cant start the car that means you would have to give them the original black key, which will void your attempts to secure your trunk and glove for sure. Which is what im trying to prevent in the first place. Makes no sense:hmm:.

From what i know its supposed to start car, allow it to drive for certain distance, and open door but not have access to trunk and glove.
If what you said is true............then the key is worthless!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:mad2:

How are you supposed to keep people from getting into your trunk and glove when you use a valet, car wash, [COLOR=blue! important][COLOR=blue! important]dealership[/COLOR][/COLOR], etc... if both keys have access to them but only the original (black) key can start it?
 

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The valet key is supposed to unlock the doors and start the car. It is NOT supposed to work in the glove box or trunk.
 

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I Thought So. I Confirmed It When I Read The Manual Last Night. Im Most Likely Going To Take The Key Back To The Dealer And Hav Ethem Fix That Problem By Cutting Another Key Correctly...or Do You Guys Have Any Otehr Ideas?
 

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Not trying to be a smart ass, but if you got the key two years ago and just realized it will open the glovebox, is it really that important of a flaw for you?

Maybe you valet park more than me (which is never). I have never used any valet key for a true valet purpose. In fact, 06 SRX and my 07 Lade did not even come with a valet key. Just my 01 SLS.
 

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I dont know if you guys know but when you activate the valet lock inside the glove box it prevents the opening of the trunk by use of fob button, valet key and dash button, prevents the opening of the gas cap door, prevents the use of OnStar, and prevents the opening of the glove. Nice Security option, no?

That said...Ive been using the key and valet features for 2 years b/c i thought they were working properly. Not knowing that the valet key was working as the torn achilles tendon. I did not find out the know that the key was faulty until last week. So i guess ive had a false security for two years.

I take my car to the car wash every two weeks so i need the key to prevent access to the onstar, trunk, glove, etc.... I also use it when i take it to the Dealer or have the car serviced, etc....

I keep all my service invoices so i can prove that my dealer cut and activtated the key. It wont be a problem proveing that.....i think.
 

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I take my car to the car wash every two weeks so i need the key to prevent access to the onstar, trunk, glove, etc....
Gotcha. That makes sense.
 

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I can verify that the gray valet key allows me to drive anywhere for as many miles as I please, and it won't open the trunk or glove box. The mirror hole has a photoresistor deep inside so that the sensor responds to light from behind, not on the sides.....
 

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I can verify that the gray valet key allows me to drive anywhere for as many miles as I please, and it won't open the trunk or glove box. The mirror hole has a photoresistor deep inside so that the sensor responds to light from behind, not on the sides.....
There is a corresponding sensor that points to the front through the windshield. The system compares light from the front with light from the rear and dims inside and sometimes outside mirrors in response.
 

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ya i know IT HAS NO DISTANCE LIMIT. I JUST SAID THAT FOR EFFECT.:crybaby:

SO YOUR VALET KEY DOES NOT OPEN THE TRUNK AND GLOVE HUH?

ARE YOUR VALET AND MASTER KEY EXACTLY ALIKE ON BOTH SIDES, ONLY ONE SIDE, OR NONE.

MINE IS EXACTLY ALIKE ON ONLY ON SIDE THE OTHER DIFFERS
 

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also valet mode in my DHS locks out homelink garage door opener so the valet that nobody trusts can't find his way to your house and let himself/herself in through the garage.
 

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I think that's an option you have to turn off or on. The valet key CAN work everything if enabled. I think I saw that somewhere.

The valet key is supposed to unlock the doors and start the car. It is NOT supposed to work in the glove box or trunk.
 

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Yup, that's what I'm talking about. I knew it was something...

I dont know if you guys know but when you activate the valet lock inside the glove box it prevents the opening of the trunk by use of fob button, valet key and dash button, prevents the opening of the gas cap door, prevents the use of OnStar, and prevents the opening of the glove. Nice Security option, no?

That said...Ive been using the key and valet features for 2 years b/c i thought they were working properly. Not knowing that the valet key was working as the torn achilles tendon. I did not find out the know that the key was faulty until last week. So i guess ive had a false security for two years.

I take my car to the car wash every two weeks so i need the key to prevent access to the onstar, trunk, glove, etc.... I also use it when i take it to the Dealer or have the car serviced, etc....

I keep all my service invoices so i can prove that my dealer cut and activtated the key. It wont be a problem proveing that.....i think.
 

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The grey Valet blank is different in two ways from the black Master blank. First, the Valet key does not have the groove down the sides of the key. This is supposed to prevent the key from physically entering the keyway of the trunk or glove box lock. Unfortunately, the glove box lock is mostly plastic, so it may not do a very good job of keeping the Valet key out.

The other difference is even more important. The transponder chip in a Master key is different from the chip in a Valet key. GM Passkey 3 systems require only one working transponder key in order to program a new duplicate key for use in that car, and that key must be a Master key. This is to prevent your valet from duplicating your key onto a blank key and then programming it to drive your car away later.

So, here we go... Is the head grey? Does it say Valet on the side of the rubber head? Does it have flat sides instead of grooved sides? Did you ever get a chance to try to slide the key into your trunk lock?

Please let us know what you find.
 
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