[soultrain99]

Hello, My first post.

I just got a 2004 escalade. The title says 126K miles. The actual odometer says 76K. Am i reading something wrong? Am i not seeing some setting?


I noticed that when I drive that sometimes it says 40mph when i know i'm doing more that 60.

 

[luxurylife33]

sounds fishy ........ sounds like a roll back if you ask me ... if I were you, i'd get the odometer reprogrammed STAT! theres a guy who programs clusters on ebay, he can make it say whatever mileage you want .... Its about 200$ .... once you bring it to a mechanic and they record it, and it goes to carfax, your title will be branded with with a "rollback" brand on the title. Just get it reprogrammed, but i would get a carfax first to see wat the mileage looked like the last few years.

Its unfortunate but this is simple stuff that should be checked BEFORE you buy the car. An escalade with 76,xxx and 126,xxx is the differnce of $5-6,000!

 

[oldworld]

did you buy it from a dealer?? If so....you are 100000% protected under the law. If you bought it private, and the seller deceived you with intent to defraud, he too would be liable under civil staute at the very least, and possibly criminally as well. If you caught it as being deceptive and the seller never disclosed an odometer issue, he would be liable.

I am somewhat confussed though. You say the vehicle has 76K on the odometer, yet the title shows different. I am assuming then that you purchased it privately. The previous owner would have had to hand write the actual milage and sign the title over to you. His signature, under penalty of perjury attests that all info is correct.

Dind't you notice that 50K difference immediately in your paperwork??

I 100% AGREE. A simple car fax report would have buried this issue for sure. I am sorry if I assumed you bought it privately, but I simply can't imagine a reputable dealer doing something as underhanded as this, especially since it was so easy to detect.
That missing 50K cost you 4500-5000 for sure....about $1K per 10,000 miles. I would verify that you got what you paid for. If not, you have soooo many options.

I'm not saying dealers are honest.......believe me, I wasn't born yesterday, but thats just too over the top. One complaint to the local paper that a local dealer got caught rolling back the odometer would put him out of business.

On another note............can one simply disconnect the speedometer so that it does not log miles??? If so, I could see someone using the vehicle regularly, and only really loging on minimal miles by connecting the odometer here and there, or 5k miles or so a year. This would keep the value of the nehicle way up, and also help to keep an existing warranty in effect for the entire warranty period.

Anyone shed some light on that? I always wondered.
THANKS and sorry for the length of this reply.....I just got on a roll. Hate to see people get ripped off.

 

[soultrain99]

thanks for your input...

I didnt buy it. I traded a 1993 supra with 178K miles for this. I needed a bigger family car, thats why i was selling the supra. So the trade seemed like a even one.

This SUV had a broken mirror, the Service Ride Control was on. Some scratches, and rims were peeling.It seemed like a good deal. The guy told me it was 126K miles, The title said like 125,900. The caar fax was done it showed the last stated miles as 125K.

I scrolled through the menu and saw Personal Trip or something and it said 12680.3

It was only after i looked to register the car, i wanted to put down the exact mileage that i'd discovered this.

Can you tell me whose the guy on ebay to reprogram it? email
[email protected]

I want to put the miles to 126 plus.

 

[Boombotz]

You might be reading it wrong.
There is a Personal Mileage display and a Business Mileage display and then the Odometer display.

Keep hitting the button on the steering wheel and scroll threw all your settings in you DIC. You need to be looking at Odometer one.

 

[luxurylife33]

thanks for your input...

I didnt buy it. I traded a 1993 supra with 178K miles for this. I needed a bigger family car, thats why i was selling the supra. So the trade seemed like a even one.

This SUV had a broken mirror, the Service Ride Control was on. Some scratches, and rims were peeling.It seemed like a good deal. The guy told me it was 126K miles, The title said like 125,900. The caar fax was done it showed the last stated miles as 125K.

I scrolled through the menu and saw Personal Trip or something and it said 12680.3

It was only after i looked to register the car, i wanted to put down the exact mileage that i'd discovered this.

Can you tell me whose the guy on ebay to reprogram it? email
[email protected]

I want to put the miles to 126 plus.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/03-0...QQitemZ230340796265QQptZAutomotiveQ5fServices


send the guy an email, stating you want the milage changed... he charges a little extra for it

 

[slk230mb]

Also, the cluster could have been replaced (not at a dealer, where they will try to set it with the actual mileage). Do the carfax/dealer service records should mileage at recorded dates?

 

[Lu Scola]

Its not really uncommon for this to happen. Cars can be sold at the auction with wrong miles. When they come thru the lane it displays TMU- which means True milage unknown. Heres the facts about the GM cars/trucks.

Example- I know lots of people who do this.

I go buy a 2004 escalade with 50,000 exctly on it. Then I get on ebay and buy a used cluster with whatever milage. I drive my original cluster around until I rack up lets say 58,650 K. Then I pop my used ebay cluster in. I keep it in the truck until Im ready to trade it in or sell it. I then pop my old cluster in and I still have the 58,650 K on the truck because the milage is stored on the cluster. So now I get alot for my trade vs. trading it in with 125K that I would probably woulda really had if I had the orignal cluster the whole time.

This is undetectable, as long as you dont go to the dealer for service with the used cluster in, and if an insurance claim occurs then you just put your original cluster back in. The run it up 3 more K then pop in the used cluster again.

Your truck may have been a repo, or seizure where the owner never got a chance to pop his/her original cluster back in.

ALOT of vehicles are able to have a cluster put in to save milage from running up. All GM, Mercedes, Lexus, and more.

 

[Lu Scola]

Its not really uncommon for this to happen. Cars can be sold at the auction with wrong miles. When they come thru the lane it displays TMU- which means True milage unknown. Heres the facts about the GM cars/trucks.

Example- I've known people who done this.

I go buy a 2004 escalade with 50,000 exctly on it. Then I get on ebay and buy a used cluster with whatever milage. I drive my original cluster around until I rack up lets say 58,650 K. Then I pop my used ebay cluster in. I keep it in the truck until Im ready to trade it in or sell it. I then pop my old cluster in and I still have the 58,650 K on the truck because the milage is stored on the cluster. So now I get alot for my trade vs. trading it in with 125K that I would probably would of really had if I had the original cluster the whole time.

Your truck may have been a repo, or seizure where the owner never got a chance to pop his/her original cluster back in.

ALOT of vehicles are able to have a cluster put in to save milage from running up. All GM, Mercedes, Lexus, and more.

You could always just keep your cluster the way it is , and just keep it until you hit 135K and then trade it in. You should get damn near what you paid for it back..... LOL!

 

[Lu Scola]

Ooops on the double post!

 

[oldworld]

Just makes you wonder if you really are getting what you paid for.....I can see where alot of people would be inclined to do this, but doesn't make it right, especially if you are on the buying end.

 

[fierodough]

hummm... This may be a long shot here... But you are going 60 and it reads 40? Your millage reads 76K but should be 125K? Are you sure this cluster is not METRIC?

76K Miles is approx 125K KM. and 40Mph = 64Km/h

Just a shot in the dark here... In the DIC you can change the setting from Metric to Imperial. the actual gauges can't change, but if a deffferent overlay was used... Do you have a fancy aftermarket gauge overlay? (White face gauges etc?)

Cheers!

 

[Lu Scola]

After being in the car biz for many years, I personally would be very hesitant on buying certain vehicles due to the milage mystery. Especially Escalades. I will not buy one with rims already on it or if it had aftermarket accessories. Most likely, (but not always) the miles are incorrect. People have been doing this to these and Denali's since 2002 when they came out. The clusters on ebay are 125-200 bucks. There easy to pop out and put in. When buying check the paint, interior, under the hood for any signs of the vehicle having excessive wear that may make you wonder about the milage. If you go look at a 2003 EXT with 34K, and the truck shows lots of use/wear, then you probably are buying a truck with maybe 100K +

Its not the dealers fault.

Food for thought.

 

[dkozloski]

You've got feet and meters swapped. Just find the button and fix it yourself. Also known as Metric vs. English.