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I got my new wheels and tires from Discount Tire Direct.



Of course, the day I actually have a chance to get them done, it rains. And it is raining now and turning to snow. Luckily it is too warm to stick on the roads, but still.
 

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I stayed with 17" wheels and tires. The wheels are a DTD brand, MB Wheels - those are the Alpina which come in silver and the Black with machined face.

I went with Kumho Ecsta ASX tires in the 225/45/17 sizes. Too many potholes on the back roads to go with a lower profile tire. I drive back roads to work every day.
 

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I stayed with 17" wheels and tires. The wheels are a DTD brand, MB Wheels - those are the Alpina which come in silver and the Black with machined face.

I went with Kumho Ecsta ASX tires in the 225/45/17 sizes. Too many potholes on the back roads to go with a lower profile tire. I drive back roads to work every day.

Smart move on the 17", they look great!
 

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nice! have u experienced with other tire brand like conti or general before? would you recommend kumho over conti or general?

TxBorderCop said:
I stayed with 17" wheels and tires. The wheels are a DTD brand, MB Wheels - those are the Alpina which come in silver and the Black with machined face. I went with Kumho Ecsta ASX tires in the 225/45/17 sizes. Too many potholes on the back roads to go with a lower profile tire. I drive back roads to work every day.
 

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I agree with GJB, good call on the 17’s, if you are going over some rough roads – the taller the sidewall the more ‘cushion’ and margin of safety. I really wish mine didn’t have the upgraded wheels because the roads around here remind me of the lunar landscape after the US Army uses it for target practice. More than any other car I have owned I find myself dodging potholes, manhole covers, and anything else that will rattle my fillings for fear of damage to those rims.
 

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nice! have u experienced with other tire brand like conti or general before? would you recommend kumho over conti or general?
I have used so many different tire brands over the years, between HPDE and autocross.

Continentals are fine, but overpriced. General makes a decent tire but you will get what you pay for. Supposedly the UHP's are pretty decent, but I wouldn't spend the money on a decent tire when I can get a better tire for the same money or less. Goodyear - the most expensive tires in the world have Goodyear written on them. I hated the F1 Supercars that came on my Corvette - they lasted less than 9000 miles and were crap grip wet or dry. I bought Firestone Wide Ovals as replacements (I used either Hoosier R6's, Hoosier A6's or Kumho Victoracers for track use) and they were far superior in every category and were less than half the price.

I used Michelin XGT's back in the day on my old Dodge Daytona Shelby and they were good for the tires back then. BFG Rivals are really good.

I use Toyo R888's on the Corvette, great dry grip, but I never drive the car in the rain.

I had Kumho's on my Honda CR-Z and they were fantastic - for the money they are hard to beat.

So yes, I would recommend Kumhos. I like their grip, wet and dry. The tires that came on my ATS were Bridgestone Blizzaks snow tires.

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I agree with GJB, good call on the 17’s, if you are going over some rough roads – the taller the sidewall the more ‘cushion’ and margin of safety. I really wish mine didn’t have the upgraded wheels because the roads around here remind me of the lunar landscape after the US Army uses it for target practice. More than any other car I have owned I find myself dodging potholes, manhole covers, and anything else that will rattle my fillings for fear of damage to those rims.
The roads here are almost identical to what you are describing. I can empathize.

Try owning a modded Corvette, you dodge things like pea gravel, pine cones and leaves. My Vette is setup for HPDE and autocross, so I understand the term, firm suspension. Pfadt inverted sport shocks, Z06 springs and Pfadt adjustable sway bars. Full stiff on the front with middle stiff on the rear. My rear bar is set at C6Z06 stiffness. I run 14 on the front shocks and 8 on the rears.
 

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I feel this is the worse car for potholes and such. I do the same to avoid damage. Like I said before after demolishing new rims on this car after like 3 weeks on the car brand new. I see things in the road that aren't there sometimes. Like a woman walking with high heals. It reminds me when I was in high school I took some acid with my boys. I was driving on a dirt road and saw a family of ducks crossing the road.I got out the car and tried to shoo them away. I said"[email protected]#king ducks" while waiving them on. The whole time everyone in the car saw what I was doing and didn't know what I was saying. Well lets say there were no ducks at all. GOOD TIMES RIGHT THERE.
I agree with GJB, good call on the 17’s, if you are going over some rough roads – the taller the sidewall the more ‘cushion’ and margin of safety. I really wish mine didn’t have the upgraded wheels because the roads around here remind me of the lunar landscape after the US Army uses it for target practice. More than any other car I have owned I find myself dodging potholes, manhole covers, and anything else that will rattle my fillings for fear of damage to those rims.
 

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gotta love the ducks! :)

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I feel this is the worse car for potholes and such. I do the same to avoid damage. Like I said before after demolishing new rims on this car after like 3 weeks on the car brand new. I see things in the road that aren't there sometimes. Like a woman walking with high heals. It reminds me when I was in high school I took some acid with my boys. I was driving on a dirt road and saw a family of ducks crossing the road.I got out the car and tried to shoo them away. I said"[email protected]#king ducks" while waiving them on. The whole time everyone in the car saw what I was doing and didn't know what I was saying. Well lets say there were no ducks at all. GOOD TIMES RIGHT THERE.
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Gotta say I am leaning toward Kumho now after your comments. i was unsure of selecting cheaper brand because of my personal experience with General brand. As you said it, you get what u paid for. I replaced oem tires on my acura tl with General for their cheap price and was extremely disappointed. It was wayyyy louder!
thank you!

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I have used so many different tire brands over the years, between HPDE and autocross. Continentals are fine, but overpriced. General makes a decent tire but you will get what you pay for. Supposedly the UHP's are pretty decent, but I wouldn't spend the money on a decent tire when I can get a better tire for the same money or less. Goodyear - the most expensive tires in the world have Goodyear written on them. I hated the F1 Supercars that came on my Corvette - they lasted less than 9000 miles and were crap grip wet or dry. I bought Firestone Wide Ovals as replacements (I used either Hoosier R6's, Hoosier A6's or Kumho Victoracers for track use) and they were far superior in every category and were less than half the price. I used Michelin XGT's back in the day on my old Dodge Daytona Shelby and they were good for the tires back then. BFG Rivals are really good. I use Toyo R888's on the Corvette, great dry grip, but I never drive the car in the rain. I had Kumho's on my Honda CR-Z and they were fantastic - for the money they are hard to beat. So yes, I would recommend Kumhos. I like their grip, wet and dry. The tires that came on my ATS were Bridgestone Blizzaks snow tires.
 

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Kumho ASX's in 225/45/17 are $86.00 each from Discount Tire Direct with free shipping.

Before I would buy the Continentals, I would spend a bit more on the BFG g-force Super Sport A/S. Though the Falken Azenis PT-722 is at $91.00 a tire and is highly rated. I have used Falken's in the past and they are good tires.
 

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Here's a better pic - I washed the car but was unable to spend the time to Nanoskin and polish it.



Here's the $109 spoiler from EBay

 

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Sweet looking ride.. Those 17's don't look bad at all.. The substantial side wall on the tires, makes then look even better..

BTW.. I run Kumho Ecsta lx Platinum on my after market wheels.. I just changed over from the stock Michelin run flats, I used for winter.. And the ride is sooo much smoother with the Kumho's.. Even when run at a higher pressure.. My Michelins would go up to 34 psi when fully warmed.. I run my Kumho's at 39 psi warm..
 

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The roads here are almost identical to what you are describing. I can empathize.

Try owning a modded Corvette, you dodge things like pea gravel, pine cones and leaves. My Vette is setup for HPDE and autocross, so I understand the term, firm suspension. Pfadt inverted sport shocks, Z06 springs and Pfadt adjustable sway bars. Full stiff on the front with middle stiff on the rear. My rear bar is set at C6Z06 stiffness. I run 14 on the front shocks and 8 on the rears.
Pretty stout set-up. :)
I have the Pfadt JOC bars and shocks. The potholes and crappy roads have won. I'm taking the shocks off and going to a little more forgiving shock, probably the Koni FSDs.
 
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