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New member, considering an ELR

6.4K views 5 replies 3 participants last post by  MrFastFox666  
#1 ·
Hello there. As the title says, I'm considering an ELR. For a bit of reference, my current vehicle is a 2014 Honda CR-Z. I do like the car, but it is way too slow, and it's just a mild hybrid, so gas mileage isn't that great (I get about 35mpg) there's no EV-only mode, and while I do like the car, I've grown bored of it. I'd love a full EV, but the only EV I would like to buy is the Kia EV6 which is $60k, so quite a bit out of my price range. I considered the Volt, but I don't like the design of the early model, and the later model is priced close to the ELR.

On the other hand, I do really like the design of the ELR, and I don't really mind the limited cargo and seating space. I also like the more luxurious interior of the ELR. I read a lot of reviews complaining about the lack of features, but those were considering its $76k MSRP. At $20k I think I'm fine with the features it has right now. The only doubts I have about it are reliability and power. I'm not looking for super car performance, and the 206hp power rating seems adequate to me, but the gas-only power is around 80hp which seems quite low, and I'm concerned that replacement parts will be expensive and DIY work will be hard to perform. I'm also concerned about reliability in general. Are these concerns valid? What are common issues with the car?

Regarding the powertrain, how is the electric-only range nowadays? Is it reasonable to expect 30 miles of range considering battery wear?
How is the gas mileage? I remember reading 35mpg on gas only mode, but is there a mode that combines gas and electric too?
Would level 2 charging be worth it, or am I fine with just level 1 charging? Most of the time I'd use the car to commute, my commute is 44 miles both ways, so I fully expect to arrive home with no battery, and I can charge at home.

Any info, as well as your thoughts and opinions would be greatly appreciated, thanks in advance!
 
#2 ·
what year are you looking at?and if you want to use battery alot around town,I'd spring for the level 2 charger.I love my 2016,,even if it did just blow something up in the propulsion system,lol.I beat on the car pretty hard and its survived me till 83k miles.
remember,most of the time you drive on the electric motors,in sport they couple the engine to wheels to get to 200hp.
 
#3 ·
what year are you looking at?and if you want to use battery alot around town,I'd spring for the level 2 charger.I love my 2016,,even if it did just blow something up in the propulsion system,lol.I beat on the car pretty hard and its survived me till 83k miles. remember,most of the time you drive on the electric motors,in sport they couple the engine to wheels to get to 200hp.
The only ones I see are 2014, don't see any 2016s in my area. I probably won't be doing much in-town driving. How fast is level 2 charging? I'd end up getting those chargers that go in the dryer outlet because I live in a rental house so I can't install an EVSE
 
#5 ·
The good, the bad, and the ugly...

The Good: It's one of the nicest looking cars around, regardless of price. It has stood the test of time. My 2016 sports the cadillac crest redesign (what we see now on the road) and you couldn't tell this car is 7 years old.
It has one of the nicest fit and finishes, combined with a wealth of different materials that make up the interior. It's a true 2 person grand tourer.
As an extended range vehicle for what most people use it for, it's pretty amazing. It's decent in the winter, runs smooth and most of the time is hush quiet. On full charge, with ICE to support the battery, the car is quick.

The Bad: Not the greatest of ev range, but zero anxiety thanks to the ICE / fuel tank. You can get is serviced at most knowledgeable service garages, but it can be a challenge seeing as the car is so rare and an enigma. The HVAC does it's job, but I still think the blower fan could be more powerful. As well, the heated seats do heat, because you will eventually feel the seat being "not as cold" as non heated seats. It's just not "hot" like most heated seats react on startup.

The Ugly: Parts are a pain in the @ss. Good luck finding headlights, tail lights or body panels. I think suspension pieces will be difficult to get too. Oh, and I'm sure interior trim pieces will be a nightmare for obvious reasons (a. too few vehicles sold, b. GM stopped making this vehicle long before discontinuing it.) It's really hard trusting any GM dealerships, because they for the most part know nothing about this vehicle (at least in my area).
 
#6 ·
Thanks for the info. I ended up pulling the trigger on a '14 ELR with 63k miles. It's not in perfect condition, biggest issue being the driver seat, but overall the car is in good condition. I really do like the design and styling. I heard someone say that they didn't like it because it looked like a Hot Wheels car with the tiny windows and giant wheels, but that's precisely why I like it. I've always like sporty looking coupes, so the design was right up my alley. As for the interior, it is very nice and has very premium materials for sure, but comparing it to my previous car (Honda CR-Z), I can't help but feel that the interior is lower quality with little attention to detail. Lots of panels don't line up very well, especially near the door hinge, the button layout is odd, some parts of the dash are super flimsy, and the plastic buttons have a tendency to peel off (another ELR I saw had a completely *********** button). The CR-Z may use cheaper plastic and fabric, but it feels like its put together better. It's not a big deal since you don't drive around pushing on your dash and looking at the door jamb, but it's a bit disappointing. I still like the interior a lot, though.

As for EV range, it is a bit low, but still really good for 90% of my driving. I can complete 60-75% of my commute on EV only, 44 mi both ways and mostly highway.The heated steering wheel is too weak in my opinion, but the seats feel fine. The HVAC also feels really good, and I'm usually comfortable within just a few minutes even in the harsh FL sun. My CR-Z, on the other hand, could take 20 minutes to make you comfortable, and if the engine stops, so does your A/C. But whatever algorithm controls the HVAC is much better on the Honda, it made the car comfortable in nearly all conditions. The ELR, not so much, I'm constantly having to change the temp.

Overall I'm pretty happy with the car. I do prefer the driving experience of the Honda a bit, it's much more agile and nimble, the steering is more precise and responsive, and it has a much much smaller turning circle. It is very slow, though. The ELR feels more like a boat, it's heavier with more vague steering. It does make the ELR more comfortable, though, but the giant turning circle has to be my biggest complaint about the car, even making a U-turn can be tricky at times.

Still, I'm very happy with the car. It's quicker (but not as quick as your 2016, we don't get engine assist), better looking, more comfortable, has more features, and gets way better fuel economy. Parts do worry me, though, as they're more expensive and harder to find, and I expect the ELR to be harder to work on vs the CR-Z (I work on my own cars and don't trust anyone else lol).