[nicknik]

Anyone else here pondering what it would take to convert to the new emblems? The grill on the ELR traveling the car shows looks like it's lost the entire circular surround ours has so a whole new grill would be needed I guess. I don't remember if the rear spoiler on the show car had the same cutout for the crest ours has. AND I wonder if the wheel inserts are shared with any other model or the steering wheel cap?

Grill is probably completely out of the question for anyone with adaptive cruise which I didn't opt for.

Just wanting to see if anyone else was thinking the same thing... Obviously I haven't done an ounce of actual research on parts.

Also an article on Carbuzz alluded to completely axing the ELR line. Which if that is the case I am definitely keeping mine after my lease is up. I love that I am 1 of 2,000 and have MAYBE seen three other ELRs on the road total. The article could be argued that they were doing away with the coupe concept and that they would instead transition the technology into existing models a la Ford Fusion.

 

[fuzzylollipop]

There is going to be a 2016 ELR, beyond that is just guessing. I am not sure that GM even knows if there will be an ELR past 2016.
Cadillac is getting more and more independence from GM so they can differentiate themselves more. There is also a lot of new blood in management at the upper levels of Cadillac ( US, Europe and Asia ) that have a track record of not really doing things the way GM or Cadillac have done things in the past, so like I said guessing.

 

[jayoldschool]

There is going to be a 2016 ELR

Your source for that info?

 

[Loveldos]

The GM Online Order and Reference Guide is updated to include the 2016 Cadillacs--there is an ELR model and it has a topic "New for 2016" describing the changes with accuracy, including colors and trim. Check it out:

http://www.gmfleetorderguide.com/NA...egionID=1&divisionID=5&vehicleID=17463&type=0

Therefore, there will be a 2016 ELR. However, Johan DeNyschen (sp?) has recently given an interview where he states the ELR is being discontinued and hybrid power will be offered on several other models of Cadillacs. Slow sales seem to be alluded to as the culprit. He mentions there will not be another "highly styled, two-door, electric model produced by Cadillac." Of course, things can change, but he makes such remarks in the interview.

 

[fuzzylollipop]

Your source for that info?

Me, I work for GM.

Plus there have been plenty of public reports about the 2016 ELR that was supposed to be shown already. This is pretty public knowledge.

 

[Blastphemy]

The GM Online Order and Reference Guide is updated to include the 2016 Cadillacs--there is an ELR model and it has a topic "New for 2016" describing the changes with accuracy, including colors and trim. Check it out:

http://www.gmfleetorderguide.com/NA...egionID=1&divisionID=5&vehicleID=17463&type=0

The 2016 ELR is in GM's system, but is it a placeholder or the real deal? And do the specs below justify keeping the ELR at $75k+? If all Cadillac does is rename two colors and offer white on non-Saks 5th Avenue models; improve the acceleration a bit; add a "performance package" option (which probably just means different seats, bolsters, trim, etc.); include a 4G LTE connection; enable SMS text messaging; fix a few C.U.E. bugs; and change the internal codes for a couple of items, that ain't gonna cut it. Not with hundreds of 2014 ELRs still sitting on dealer lots for $25k+ off and still not selling.

Deletions

- Exterior color (GBA) Black Raven
- Exterior color (GBE) Crystal Red Tintcoat
- SD card slot removed from Cadillac CUE
- (RQA) 20" ultra-bright machined aluminum wheels with Midnight Silver premium painted pockets

New Features

- Exterior color (G1E) Red Passion Tintcoat (available at extra charge)
- Exterior color (G1W) Crystal White Tricoat (available at extra charge)
- Exterior color (GB8) Stellar Black Metallic
- Cadillac crest badging
- Front grille design
- SMS Texting - works in conjunction with enabled Bluetooth-paired smartphones
- (Y43) Performance Package, includes (NK4) sport leather steering wheel, (RE2) 20" performance, summer-only tires, (RTH) 20" sport alloy wheels, (JQ5) performance 4-wheel antilock brakes and (FE3) sport-tuned suspension
- (VV4) OnStar with 4G LTE
- (K4C) Wireless Charging
- Lane Change Alert
- (N06) Steering column, lock control
- (UTR) Theft-deterrent alarm system, self-powered horn
- (UTU) Vehicle inclination sensor
- (PB4) Locking wheel lugs
- (SC2) Black suede steering wheel, LPO
- (S47) Lug nuts, LPO
- (SEH) 20" Satin Graphite painted aluminum wheels, LPO
- (RXJ) Wheel center caps, LPO

Changes

- Cadillac CUE upgrades include improved system speed and performance, faster, more accurate map loading and voice command execution, faster service reprogramming, redesigned navigation interfaces, single press mute navigation voice/cancel route, expanded cities with 3D maps, route information and next maneuver and BT Media browsing
- Higher output Electric Drive motor
- Enhanced chassis, steering and brake tuning
- Side Blind Zone Alert RPO Code changes from (UFT) to (UKC)
- Automatic transmission RPO Code changes from (MKA) to (MKD)

There is going to be a 2016 ELR

Your source for that info?

Me, I work for GM.

Plus there have been plenty of public reports about the 2016 ELR that was supposed to be shown already. This is pretty public knowledge.

Working for GM doesn't necessarily mean you have any real information. GM employees on this forum and others swore that the 2015 ELR would be released by late 2014, and that never happened. And, as previously noted, there are still hundreds of 2014 ELRs sitting on dealer lots that aren't moving and have been available for nearly 16 months. I hope Cadillac doesn't double down on stupid, if indeed a 2016 ELR is on its way.

 

[jayoldschool]

We have our answer! Great news.

http://jalopnik.com/the-cadillac-elr-is-now-way-cheaper-and-a-lot-better-1697990855

 

[BurnsWRC]

Question is why would you want to change the crest. Obviously its all a matter of taste but I love the wreaths, so distinctive. You know its a caddy logo from miles away. I'm not sure what to make of the new logo, it doesnt look distinctive at all, like something you'd find on cars made in china honestly. But thats just me.

 

[nicknik]

I really like the new logo. I think it is fresh and clean while still distinctively Cadillac. I think the crest dates and reads a bit old. American cars have a bad wrap for being ornate and chrome laden. Which I'm fine with and like the American separation there. But in today's marketing and social media driven world an ornate logo is too old school.

Maybe it's my age, I've only been 30 for two months. So maybe the wreath will grow on me in the coming months

Plus has anyone ever seen the chart of Cadillacs insignia evolution? There are been almost 30 iterations since inception and the wreath is only on about 5 of those. So it really isn't all that historic either.

 

[BurnsWRC]

I really like the new logo. I think it is fresh and clean while still distinctively Cadillac. I think the crest dates and reads a bit old. American cars have a bad wrap for being ornate and chrome laden. Which I'm fine with and like the American separation there. But in today's marketing and social media driven world an ornate logo is too old school.

Maybe it's my age, I've only been 30 for two months. So maybe the wreath will grow on me in the coming months

Plus has anyone ever seen the chart of Cadillacs insignia evolution? There are been almost 30 iterations since inception and the wreath is only on about 5 of those. So it really isn't all that historic either.

Good points, I was hoping you wouldnt bring up the lack of wreaths in the evolution lol, but its true. I'm not much older than you are (36), the way I look at it is that Caddy was in a hole, and it (GM) started to dig itself out of it by developing successful cars that had the wreaths logo, so to me it almost feels like a symbol of revival, not so much history. The composition of wreath and crest to me is a clear indication of what car it is. With the new logo, even though the cars themselves are very distinctive, I sometimes spend a fraction of a second wondering what that was, or that I've seen that somewhere else, somewhere less prestigious. No biggy I know, but thats just me. I would say that new logo looks awesome on V cars, reminds me of the M logo a bit. Its the way its presented on the normal cars that makes me feel meh about it, its just too large IMO. Example on the ATS (maybe because I've seen some ATS's with the wreath logo) it looks odd. I do like it on the ATS-V though, go figure .

 

[steve2150]

http://rmautobuzz.com/top-10-automotive-flops-time/6/

 

[fuzzylollipop]

the Cadillac ELR is essentially a luxed-up version of the relatively successful Chevrolet Volt.]

Who ever wrote that "article" has never driven a Volt and an ELR or they would know just how ignorant a statement this is.

The ELR is much more than a tarted up Volt, especially technology wise. Granted it is way over priced @ $75,995 starting price.

The software is different, the suspension is way different, the brakes are completely different and the adaptive cruise control is really way different.
All the other sensors and other tech completely sets it apart from the Volt as an experience.

The Volt owners I work with all agree that the ELR is more than a luxury Volt.

 

[06z]

So am I understanding this correctly? If you have a 2014 with adaptive cruise control you can not update to the 2016 grill?