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Hey guys,

I dont think I have seen these around before, so for your viewing pleasure :thumbsup:




I am Amazed how the M5 Forum JUST CANT TAKE IT, that an almost $30000 USD Cadillac is Performing better, with a very similar Quality, if not better depends on taste ... :yup:

Here is the ongoing discussion about it ... :bigroll: CLICK


In my opinion I would love to see a top speed run CTS-V vs M5 all the way !!! Maybe then someone will come down to reality !!!
 

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Piss 91 octane too! Forced induction love higher octane.


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Piss 91 octane too! Forced induction love higher octane.


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Here is a stock CTS-V vs a stock M5 on Texas gas (93 octane).

 

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In that motor trend video, the outcome could've been much uglier for the M5 if the V driver did good shifts. The V bogs down on every shift, Iam not sure if the driver's shifting skill sucks, or he did that on purpose not to piss anyone off :suspect:

I see the second race with the black V is much more realistic
 

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Interior shot would have been nice. Wonder if their policy allows power shifting or no lift shift which the V has?


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In that motor trend video, the outcome could've been much uglier for the M5 if the V driver did good shifts. The V bogs down on every shift, Iam not sure if the driver's shifting skill sucks, or he did that on purpose not to piss anyone off :suspect:

I see the second race with the black V is much more realistic
 

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Both the M5 and M3 lovers are in awe of this Cadillac. I can honestly say that I believe that many are simply experiencing a feeling of hurt due to the massive amounts of additional funds they spent on a car that simply cannot handle the "ZR1 Sedan."

Funny they will say that in 2011 BMW will be back with a 600HP upgrade on the current M5.. well isn't it possible that a restructured GM will be willing to perhaps retain it's crown by awaiting that debut.. and re-doing the CTS-V with a swap of the LS9?
 

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well isn't it possible that a restructured GM will be willing to perhaps retain it's crown by awaiting that debut.. and re-doing the CTS-V with a swap of the LS9?
Anything's certainly possible, but I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for a different engine in the V. The LSA's it. Any power increases that do happen (and I have my doubts any will happen) will happen to the LSA itself.

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gawwwd damn, that is some HORRIBLE shifting in the V car. The youtube video is more of the reality.....unless the V driver left the traction control on and it kept kicking in bogging the V after every shift...seems like the more likely scenario.
 

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I am Amazed how the M5 Forum JUST CANT TAKE IT, that an almost $30000 USD Cadillac is Performing better, with a very similar Quality, if not better depends on taste ... :yup:

WOW! Where on earth did you find the CTS-V for $30,000?
 

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Anything's certainly possible, but I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for a different engine in the V. The LSA's it. Any power increases that do happen (and I have my doubts any will happen) will happen to the LSA itself.

jas

I'm just sayin.. and we both kno that 600HP from the LSA is as easy as apple pie. A 44HP gain is tune away
 

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Those guys on the M board are definitely a different breed. I like the fact that I can get more than M5 performance for much less. M5 is a nice car for sure but I like it a lot less now that the V is here.
 

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You definitely want to knock some sense into some of them guys on the BMW forums who blindly utter nonsense in order to defend their personal choice in vehicle, however, same shit happens here...

Or on any other model-focused forum for that matter.
 

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Hey guys,

I am Amazed how the M5 Forum JUST CANT TAKE IT, that an almost $30000 USD Cadillac is Performing better, with a very similar Quality, if not better depends on taste ... :yup:

Here is the ongoing discussion about it ... :bigroll: CLICK


In my opinion I would love to see a top speed run CTS-V vs M5 all the way !!! Maybe then someone will come down to reality !!!
As a current M5 owner, a former CTS-V owner (gen 1) and someone who is in the market for a new car, I can say that the m5board gives props to the new cts-v and the way you characterize people on the board, such as me, is not accurate.

I think the gen 2 cts-v is a vast improvement over the last one.

The comparison should have been the automatic CTS-V (as I believe it is supposed to be quicker) and the SMG M5 (it is certainly quicker). The 6sp in the current M5 was done to please some US buyers that wouldn't purchase the SMG. The V-10 in the M5 is made to rev, and the SMG is much, much quicker.

With that said: The new CTS-V is QUICKER then the M5. This is a fact! I don't know if it is faster or not? Does it go over 203mph? But does it really matter! I don't think anyone here would care if the CTS-V ONLY went 195mph because they bought the car they wanted!

Both cars are very fine cars and very different cars. I really don't think that many M5 buyers would be tempted to buy a CTS-V. I know there are a couple that have bought a CTS-V while they wait for the next M5.

I guess I just don't understand why some people make this a caddy/bimmer thing. It really isn't...I guess people buy what they like to drive! For now, I will stick to my M5 and wait for the new model next year.
 

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"Yet where it really matters, as a performance sedan, the CTS-V soundly spanks the M5. It's quicker in a straight line, handles better, steers better, even rides better "
I still take issue with use of the word "spank" when the cars are so close performance wise, it's only the financial side that makes the CTS-V a better deal.
 

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M5 owners want to use the SMG ? M5

Seems a tad interesting, maybe one of the tuners here in the US ought to get the M5 folks to start the game
 

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I read the article in the print magazine, nice. Makes me want the V2 even more. Seriously considering kicking out the wife and moving in the V2.
 

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I read the article in the print magazine, nice. Makes me want the V2 even more. Seriously considering kicking out the wife and moving in the V2.
Watch those chrome exhaust tips. They're more than likely sharp on the inside and may make you bleed!
 
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