According to this you are to never use a floor jack. Also contains a good description of how to provide a charge to the 12 volt battery.

 

Amazon has Mytee Products Tire Skates for 20 bucks each. They look similar to the ones in the video and are rated at 4000 lbs per wheel.

 

Probably smart to carry a pair with or two pair if AWD.

 

For home repair / DIY, use the pneumatic rail type lift kits.

 

Run flat tires? Really?

 

Included tires are self-sealing, not run-flat. Significant difference. And people may want to jack the car to rotate their own tires, or change for winter driving.

 

Well that's a deal killer right there. I can't swap winter and summer tires myself? That's twice a year (minimum) that I have to bring it to a dealer to do something I've been doing for decades.

 

You can but just use a different method than a floor jack to lift the car. Maybe a special rubber insert could be designed that allows regular jack usage, but that's for another day.

 

Well that's a deal killer right there. I can't swap winter and summer tires myself? That's twice a year (minimum) that I have to bring it to a dealer to do something I've been doing for decades.

This is what you will want to get for the Lyriq: QuickJack 7000TL

 

Of course.

I have the QuickJack 5000 with extension rails but it's still almost half a ton under-rated for the porky Lyriq. I don't know if you have personal experience with a QJ, but they are awkward things to use - just one of those rails is over 150 lbs and require a fair amount of storage space and muscle. Also, you'd need to know the lift point spread on the Lyriq because the QJ maxes out at 66". With a 122" wheelbase, the QJ might not be long enough for the Lyriq, depending on where the lift points are.

Speaking of lift points, here's an interesting document for first responders: https://www.nfpa.org/-/media/Files/...mergency-Response-Guides/Cadillac/2023-Cadillac-LYRIQ_Rescue-Sheet_english.ashx Unfortunately, it shows the lift point locations but not the distance between them.

And there's this fascinating TSB: https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2022/MC-10214706-0001.pdf that outlines what GM requires its service departments to install in order to sell and service its EVs.

 

I did some pixel maths with that image in the link for the Lyriq, the lift points are under that 66" so it'd work.

Interesting. How close do you get to 66"?

OK, I got down on the ground and measured the distance between the lift points. They are 48" on center.

 

OK, I got down on the ground and measured the distance between the lift points. They are 48" on center.

That's really good. Thanks for doing that.

I predict many people will damage their batteries due to the fact people don't bother to read the manual. I wonder if someone will make some sort of adapter for floor jacks?

I presume that the concern about using a floor jack is related to twisting of the battery pack. IOW, if you could jack both lift points on one side (to tilt the car), you should be able to get the vehicle up high enough to get sufficient clearance to remove the wheels. I honestly wouldn't see that as any worse than driving across an embankment.

The QJ is overkill for a wheel change and given that there's nothing to work on underneath an EV, it would be useless for anything else.

 

You can always jack it up under the spring on the suspension... it's just not really recommended. It's done a bunch with the Hummer on off-roading adventures.

There are always ways to do it. Just the more convenient ways will be in the garage.

 

I predict many people will damage their batteries due to the fact people don't bother to read the manual. I wonder if someone will make some sort of adapter for floor jacks?

 

I was inferring that earlier. Depending on my future work load I can probably design one, and I have the intention to. But my real world task list is certainly owning my lyriq to do list.

 

Well this is certainly concerning for us future Lyriq owners who need to swap out tires for the seasons! I've been doing DIY garage work for years and haven't come across a car that specifically needs to go on a lift. I've checked the owner's manual and can't find a single mention of how to jack the car.

I've worked on other EV's before (Teslas, Audi/Porsche) and they can all be jacked with an adapter pad. The tolerances of the car seems to be much too low if torsion on the battery pack due to being jacked up on one corner can cause damage. Has anyone confirmed this is actually the case? Hoping that the suggestion to not jack the car is due to owners not having the appropriate adapter pads.

Could someone do me a favor since I don't actually own a Lyriq yet.. could you describe what the jack points look like under the car? Are they well identified, have a shaped groove, or simply a flat surface? Thanks in advance.

 

This entire thread is based on a video from Allstate, not GM or Cadillac. So, I would treat it with a grain of salt until we can find something from GM officially about jacking the car. (For example, the video says the car comes with run flat tires.)

 

Agreed! But the lack of any mention at to how to jack the car in the owner's manual does seem to be a a rather large omission. Does anyone have thoughts as to how we may reach out to GM for more info?

 

The National Fire Protection Association in the U.S. knows how to lift it and you will find the information on the second page of this PDF. Turns out you lift the Lyriq just like any other car. It's not recommended to place the lift or jack under the battery. Ya' think? LOL
You can find the PDF at the link below or alternatively I have attached the file.

https://www.nfpa.org/-/media/Files/...mergency-Response-Guides/Cadillac/2023-Cadillac-LYRIQ_Rescue-Sheet_english.ashx

 

I stopped my local Discount Tire and asked them. They said you jack up where the holes are on the frame. The holes are for special attachments on jacks to keep vehicle from moving when jacked up. I also got under the rear and a very strong a-arm (due to high torque) and looks good to jack under shock absorber.

 

Hi everyone, I am also a DIY guy . I checked with my lyriq dealer mechanic and he said that you can jack at the lifting points so I cut a piece of hard wood 6 1/2” long 2” wide and 3 1/2” deep to fit into the jacking point then used a floor jack to change over to my winter wheels n tires . Hope this helps a few people out.

 

Does this Jack like a Tesla where you Jack either the front or rear point on a side and it will lift the whole side to rotate the tires because it is so rigid?

 

LOL, my Pontiac Solstice does that too.

 

The wife's Jeep has a spare so no problem doing the tire rotation with a tire that isn't on the ground. How do you do it on a Lyriq without a spare to swap into the rotation? I guess you need to have all 4 tires off the ground at the same time?

 

lack of jack information is extremely disappointing. How can you have a vehicle that cannot be jacked up with a floor jack? I've seen a bunch of videos with it on a shop lift like this one

but even there they seem to have some additional support even on the lift!

The lift points look very strong, but the rear ones are almost in the middle of the vehicle and I'm not sure if a floor jack can lift it high enough to change tires from there.

Another post implies the lift points have covers but my vehicle never came with one because the dealer service removed it and never put it back (and why would I need it if I can't even use a floor jack on it).

I'm curious if it really needs to covers to prevent corrosion. I still think it can probably be lifted due to that section of the vehicle being part of the high reinforced steel frame but there's no reason cadillac can't provide official documentation for this

 

In a pinch you can lift from the shock towers, but you shouldn't do that often.

Today you need to invest in one of these for home use.

Portable Car Lift for your Garage or Shop - QuickJack

The QuickJack is a portable car lift that's perfect for your home garage or shop. This garage lift makes all your vehicle maintenance simple and convenient.

www.quickjack.com

 

Spending that kind of money to lift it only makes sense for a gas vehicle.

at 2grand I'll have to do 20 seasonal tire changes to justify buying that. I know the vehicle can probably be lifted with a jack but an official confirmation from the manufacturer would be helpful

 

You aren't supposed to lift up the vehicle unless you can lift it evenly, so 4 floor jacks to lift the vehicle. I think they are concerned about torsion on the battery.

Why I think lifting from directly behind the wheel is best in a pinch.

 

I have watched a few YouTube videos on this jack. it does look good, and ideal for an average home garage. I do agree that you really need to have stuff to do underneath, as someone above said, before laying out the cash.

 

I've been changing out an extra set of wheels with snow tires for years now, and doing that one corner at a time is really getting old. The 7000TL is half the price of a two pole mid rise lift. There are often a few times here or there where I jack up a corner to add an accessory or to have a close look at something, but honestly for me I'm fine with it, if I only use it to change out the snow wheels twice a year and rotate the tires.

Cost benefit and affordability is just so varied, especially when you get into relatively high cost vehicles. I'm sure some here don't blink an eye at $2k, while others might take a loan to buy a 7000TL. Hopefully people are responsible, but beyond that, it's all very personal situations and individual decisions as to what is affordable and worth the cost.

 

I totally agree. I think the 7000TL is in my future.

 

I live in a flood prone area. My garage floor is raised (above 100 year flood plane level) but as an extra safety precaution I use a QuickJack to lift my vehicle whenever there are forecasts for hurricanes or other potential flooding events. Thankfully (so far) flood levels have not gotten high enough to enter my garage so I haven't needed the extra 2 feet of elevation that the QJ provides, but it's nice to know I have that extra 2 foot safety margin if needed.

I'm thinking about doing the same thing for my 2024 Lyriq, but as others have mentioned, lifting information for the Lyriq is not available. As mentioned in a previous post, lifting the Lyriq's chassis equally at all four lift points would be important to keep the battery compartment from flexing, but I'm sure the QJ would be capable of that. I'm curious if anyone has used a QJ 7000TL or 7000TLX to lift their Lyriq, or seen it be done?

S

 

I got up under my Lyriq this evening to see where the lifting areas are, expecting to see the typically doubled up metal where a tire jack would normally go. Turns out there's nothing like that on the Lyriq. Instead there are four rectangular holes, two on each side, about 6"x3", about 3" deep. Looking up inside these rectangular holes I'm pretty sure I saw the frame of the vehicle. It's a safe bet that GM makes lifting insert for these four holes, and as othes mentioned its probably wise to lift the Lyriq at all four lifting points at the same time so as not to twist the battery compartment. Anyone know if lifting inserts are available for the Lyriq (thru GM or after-market?). A set of 4 lift inserts will be needed for a QJ or other type of lift.

S

 

I got up under my Lyriq this evening to see where the lifting areas are, expecting to see the typically doubled up metal where a tire jack would normally go. Turns out there's nothing like that on the Lyriq. Instead there are four rectangular holes, two on each side, about 6"x3", about 3" deep. Looking up inside these rectangular holes I'm pretty sure I saw the frame of the vehicle. It's a safe bet that GM makes lifting insert for these four holes, and as othes mentioned its probably wise to lift the Lyriq at all four lifting points at the same time so as not to twist the battery compartment. Anyone know if lifting inserts are available for the Lyriq (thru GM or after-market?). A set of 4 lift inserts will be needed for a QJ or other type of lift.

S

Thanks for looking. I wonder if the QuickJack people know the answers to these types of questions?

 

I emailed QuickJack yesterday to see if they have an Lift Insert that will work for the Lyriq. QJ replied today saying they "may" and it's called their Pinch Weld Pucks. Pinch-Weld Pucks

Their idea is certainly good but at first glance I don't think the shape of these generic pucks will work for the Lyriq, but since I have its dimensions now, I plan to take some measurements today and see for sure. Assuming it doesn't work, perhaps I can talk QJ into building a puck specifically for the Lyriq (and other vehicles that use GM's Ultium EV chassis).

S

 

While taking measurements of the Lift Points under my Lyriq today I noticed a 6"x2" plastic section that's right beside the recessed opening, This plastic cover easily pops off and on and exposes the double welded edge of might be the frame. Has anyone noticed this? Now I'm wondering if the lift point is up in the recessed opening, or this double welded area?

S

 

The lift point is partially under the 4 plastic panels that the dealer installs. They remove those when using the Lifts in the dealership. I was unsure if you were talking about these points before but now I see you weren't.

Those are the correct lift points under the plastic removeable panels.

 

Nebula - thanks! That's great information. Now I just need to find some sort of puck that will slide over those metal rails and the QJ 7000 should be able to work its magic. By the way, where did you find that graphic?

S

 

The graphic is part of the attached PDF.