[Adam]

... 1989 Brougham. its white on blue (velour). only has 54k miles on it... well almost 55k. there are some cracks in it though, bumper fillers and all the other parts that arent metal. vinyl top needs replacing. they want 3k which is a very reasonable price but i cant afford that much. i offered 2k (which is really stretching it cause i got my CTS) so the guy is gonna talk with the owner.

here is the thing, the guy supposedly had heart surgery and is selling it cause he needs the money... but i have heard this story before. also i dont know if it has actually kicked over and has 154k miles or not. i have the vin # and am gonna get a carfax to make sure. i dont want to buy it for that much less if the guy really had heart surgery though. dammit why do i have to be a good person? its in great shape, well the interior needs to be professionally cleaned but other than that and the afore mentioned problems, its a cream puff. took a little bit to start it, carbed so i had to pump the gas. i dont think it has been started though in a week. thats how long it has been sitting there, curiosity got me. what do you all think?

 

[I~LUV~Caddys8792]

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[N0DIH]

I would carfax for sure. Yeah, it IS hard to trust anyone these days. Sob story to keep the price up.

But, offer what you can, if they refuse, they refuse too.

As for starting, the 307 is a good starting engine, if the vacuum breaks are in good shape. Mine always started awesome even in subzero weather. First crank, no pumping of throttle. just tap enough to set choke and that is it. But that is a daily driver, if it sits, the carb may be empty too.

Let us know!

 

[Adam]

carb was empty, im 99% sure. i pumped the gas a little and she started right up. no, it wont be a daily. actually im probably gonna take out a personal loan from the bank so i dont have to get insurance. it will be running but i am not gonna drive it until i pay it off. basically i am gonna get some work done on it... important stuff first then the hydraulics. looked under her and no oil spots or coolant leaks or anything. i have heard this "heart surgery" story before, you just never know if it is true or not. still if he can take 2k then ill see what i can do. if it works out, ill be happy, if not oh well, didnt own the car to begin with. couldnt believe how quite it was. i sat behind the wheel of it and still not as big as my 93, it was good sized but my 93 felt so much bigger in every way. i liked it though, and am still keeping my eye out for a 93-96 Fleetwood/ Fleetwood Brougham.

there isnt a picture.

I would carfax for sure. Yeah, it IS hard to trust anyone these days. Sob story to keep the price up.

But, offer what you can, if they refuse, they refuse too.

As for starting, the 307 is a good starting engine, if the vacuum breaks are in good shape. Mine always started awesome even in subzero weather. First crank, no pumping of throttle. just tap enough to set choke and that is it. But that is a daily driver, if it sits, the carb may be empty too.

Let us know!

 

[davesdeville]

Well ask to see some scars then.

It's a quadrajet carb so if the fuel bowl plugs aren't properly sealed it will take 15-30 seconds of cranking for it to start every morning. It's easy to check, after it's been sitting a couple days pump the gas while you look down the primary barrels of the carb. If fuel sprays out it's fine, otherwise the bowl's probably empty. Easy fix if the plugs leak too.

 

[Adam]

Well ask to see some scars then.

It's a quadrajet carb so if the fuel bowl plugs aren't properly sealed it will take 15-30 seconds of cranking for it to start every morning. It's easy to check, after it's been sitting a couple days pump the gas while you look down the primary barrels of the carb. If fuel sprays out it's fine, otherwise the bowl's probably empty. Easy fix if the plugs leak too.

thanks dave ill check that. it took about 10 seconds to get it to start. when i had my Cutlass it was the same way so it wasnt nothing new.

what do you mean by scars? it has some cracks and stuff (not on the dash). i am will know something by monday if he will drop or not. then Tuesday or Wednesday of next week ill have a 89 Brougham. i dont know if i really want to go with this or not. i know the second i buy it a 93 will pop up for 1,5k somewhere 5 miles from my house. and i would rather have a 93 than the old body style 89.

 

[caddycruiser]

thanks dave ill check that. it took about 10 seconds to get it to start. when i had my Cutlass it was the same way so it wasnt nothing new.

what do you mean by scars? it has some cracks and stuff (not on the dash). i am will know something by monday if he will drop or not. then Tuesday or Wednesday of next week ill have a 89 Brougham. i dont know if i really want to go with this or not. i know the second i buy it a 93 will pop up for 1,5k somewhere 5 miles from my house. and i would rather have a 93 than the old body style 89.

My advice? If you REALLY want a '93, don't just go spending the cash on an older model just because you found it and it's in your price range. I'm not a very big pre-'93 body style lover either, but there are days when I see one that's just the right color and options and thing "Hmmm....", but then my senses come back and I realized I'd MUCH, MUCH rather have a newer one.

They continue to drop in price everyday almost, so just keep on a lookout and I guarantee sometime, some where, you'll find just the "right" one. Kinda like the '93 I recently stumbled upon and was tempted to write a check the minute I saw it.

Unless it were a situation where you just badly needed a car to get around, then there's no real sense in buying an old carbureted dinosaur (... ), just because.

Here's an example, right at this minute, of a '93 in very nice shape for $2,200:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1993-Cadillac-Fleetwood-Brougham_W0QQitemZ4587531481QQcategoryZ6149QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

 

[Adam]

well caddycruiser thanks, that really helps, i just might go for it. one problem, its in Florida, id have to get it shipped and well i dont have the money for that. ill consider for the next couple days and see if it is sold or not. i might, thanks for the help brother! i would much rather have that than the older model.

My advice? If you REALLY want a '93, don't just go spending the cash on an older model just because you found it and it's in your price range. I'm not a very big pre-'93 body style lover either, but there are days when I see one that's just the right color and options and thing "Hmmm....", but then my senses come back and I realized I'd MUCH, MUCH rather have a newer one.

They continue to drop in price everyday almost, so just keep on a lookout and I guarantee sometime, some where, you'll find just the "right" one. Kinda like the '93 I recently stumbled upon and was tempted to write a check the minute I saw it.

Unless it were a situation where you just badly needed a car to get around, then there's no real sense in buying an old carbureted dinosaur (... ), just because.

Here's an example, right at this minute, of a '93 in very nice shape for $2,200:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1993-Cadillac-Fleetwood-Brougham_W0QQitemZ4587531481QQcategoryZ6149QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

 

[BIG 305 CAL]

im kinda in the same situation as u...almost same car actually...its a dealer though the car is a 89 fleetwood brougham in more then normal conditions..paint is good,top is good,seats is good but could use cleaning nothing major even has the factory caddy floor mats...he turned it on no pump gas and i drove it around sounded and felt great..i opened the hood no "shiny" fake engine it was just wha it suppose to be he said they put a new vacuum advance thats the only thing they have done....now the kicker the price is $4400 he said if i bring cash he can do 3000 lowest...if i finance he didnt say its 3000 so im guessing its 4400 but that can be talked down...he wants 1000 down or 800 i told him i had then i meantioned i had a 90 deville i can trade for the down he said bring it ill give u a price so u wont have to put anything down....but its still $250 a month and he did say we have high interest BUT if i have the money sooner then i can pay it off but pay the interest for how ever long ive taken to pay it off. so im not sure i might check bring the 90 deville to him on monday or tuesday and see wha happens

 

[caddycruiser]

well caddycruiser thanks, that really helps, i just might go for it. one problem, its in Florida, id have to get it shipped and well i dont have the money for that. ill consider for the next couple days and see if it is sold or not. i might, thanks for the help brother! i would much rather have that than the older model.

Where exactly are you located at? Have you done any Autotrader.com searches? That, or Cars.com, seem to be the most loaded with cars nationwide, and you can find pretty much anything.

I found the Fleetwood we have now on Cars.com almost by accident, and the one I'm looking at right now popped up right on the mile limit from my zip code on Autotrader.

 

[Adam]

there arent any that close *in my price range*. i have seen some as close as 50 miles (they are rare around here). i might see 2 a week, if i am lucky. it took me 2 years before i found mine. one stupid move and i lost her. i am looking again. i just cant stand not having my boat. that was daddy's girl. the CTS is daddy's little girl.

Where exactly are you located at? Have you done any Autotrader.com searches? That, or Cars.com, seem to be the most loaded with cars nationwide, and you can find pretty much anything.

I found the Fleetwood we have now on Cars.com almost by accident, and the one I'm looking at right now popped up right on the mile limit from my zip code on Autotrader.

 

[N0DIH]

Odd thing, in all my Q-Jet days, I have never seen a leaker. Was it the old ones that did it? Like the old Carter manf'd Q-Jets? I have one of them, it is the worst of the bunch for quality. The alum sucks. Crumbles you have to be very careful.

BUT, it is a 1969 428 HO (390HP) carb. Was on my 1970 455 from a Hearse. Best I can tell it was factory, only had 54K miles on it when I got it. Just the motor, not the hearse....

Well ask to see some scars then.

It's a quadrajet carb so if the fuel bowl plugs aren't properly sealed it will take 15-30 seconds of cranking for it to start every morning. It's easy to check, after it's been sitting a couple days pump the gas while you look down the primary barrels of the carb. If fuel sprays out it's fine, otherwise the bowl's probably empty. Easy fix if the plugs leak too.

 

[AElayyat]

Don't buy that car for that price in that condition. For 3K you could pick up a cherry 87 to 89 Brougham.

 

[davesdeville]

thanks dave ill check that. it took about 10 seconds to get it to start. when i had my Cutlass it was the same way so it wasnt nothing new.

what do you mean by scars?

Well if it only takes 10 seconds I wouldn't really suspect that but it's so easy to check so may as well.

Scars... lol I was talking about the guys surgery.

Odd thing, in all my Q-Jet days, I have never seen a leaker. Was it the old ones that did it? Like the old Carter manf'd Q-Jets? I have one of them, it is the worst of the bunch for quality. The alum sucks. Crumbles you have to be very careful.

BUT, it is a 1969 428 HO (390HP) carb. Was on my 1970 455 from a Hearse. Best I can tell it was factory, only had 54K miles on it when I got it. Just the motor, not the hearse....

Well my 78 Fleetwood Brougham had the fuel bowl plug leak. So did an Electra 225(w/455) that I seem to remember being a 76, it was a car someone at my friends church gave to a nice little old lady who didn't have a car - my friend did the work on it for free and made me help for having used his tools all the time. Neither were Carter made carbs, both Rochester. I know I dropped the throttle plate of mine from the 78 onto the concrete and it was very solid, did no damage at all so I'd say it wasn't one of the ones you're talking about.

 

[DopeStar 156]

Wow dude is there a sale on all 89 Broughams or what? Congradulations, knowing you I'm anxious to see what you do to it. If you're gonna chop it up and customize it lemme know, I could use some stock stuff. Especially if you're parting out with the radio.

 

[Adam]

Wow dude is there a sale on all 89 Broughams or what? Congradulations, knowing you I'm anxious to see what you do to it. If you're gonna chop it up and customize it lemme know, I could use some stock stuff. Especially if you're parting out with the radio.

well i havent got it yet. i dont think i am gonna get it, its possible though. if i do get it i am gonna replace the vinyl top, there are some cracks in the parts that arent metal so ill have to fix that, then the bumper fillers need repainting. well its not a must to repaint those but you all know how the color fades on them. that would just about be the only thing i could give you Dope is the radio as im sure i would be throwing a cd player in it, everything else ill be keeping (unless you want the trunk carpet). anyway, i will know monday if i am gonna get it or not.

scars! what the hell, i wasnt thinking i dont guess. ok i know what you mean. unfortunately it isnt at that guys house, its sitting infront of a gas station/ tune up/ oil change shop. the guy that used to own it sold it to these other people and i dont trust them as well as i trusted Bob (my old mechanic who owned that place). one of the guys that works there knows the guy and he told me that. i have heard this story atleast 20 different times so im not so sure if it is true, but it could be. i would still much rather have a 93-96 Fleetwood Brougham so i am gonna keep an eye out for one of them instead.