email sent

 

Wow, nice! Great price, too!

 

Any CAI in the pipeline? Loved the KPE I had on my '11 Coupe.

 

Is that 72-81 RWHP with a stock exhaust? If so, WOW. Would not mind to see what that feels like.

 

That is correct! We will have images of our axle and cat-back turbo exhaust this week. Stay tuned...

 

That is correct! We will have images of our axle and cat-back turbo exhaust this week. Stay tuned...

Please post sound clips when you are ready, thx. Is it for 2.0T?

 

When will the tuning software be available?

 

Tuning software is available now. Contact the sales department for either a dealer near you or how to tune personally.

Thanks,

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72 to 81hp is a pretty big jump for just a tune on a stock setup? Do you also tune the tranny?

Kevin

We can tune the tranny for those with Autos. Not all models offer TCU upgrades, however. Please check with sales for complete details.

Thanks,

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I'm not trying to question your credibility or anything but I see a few problems with the gains you are posting. The car in the pictures in the first post is clearly strapped to a Mustang Dyno, but the dyno sheet on your Facebook page says "DYNOJET RESEARCH" on the top. You also posted that these results are for the ATS, Regal GS, and Malibu LTZ. The Regal GS does not come with the same engine that the ATS and Malibu have. Which car are those results from? I searched around on the internet and could not find any feedback from anyone on your tune for any of the listed vehicles. You mention that you need this car for a full day, but in my past experience (I've owned several GM 2.0T cars in the past including a Solstice GXP and a Cobalt SS Turbocharged) dyno tunes only take a couple of hours max. Have you actually tuned one of these before? It almost sounds like you have not, and are looking for someone to leave their car with you to experiment on.



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Btw those pics look like they where taken at evoms headquarters
I use to have there software on my gli

Sorry, you are correct, the dyno sheet you refer to is for the Regal GS only. It was a typo on the photo. We ask for the car to be dropped off for the day due to scheduling with the dyno. Thank you for clarifying. Obviously we have tuned one, if we are posting photos of it on our dyno. We are offering a complimentary tune to a forum member to provide feedback to the group.

Yes, EVO MS is also our office too. They are a great partner!

 

"Our tunes can not be detected by the dealer"

So you're saying that the CVNs will match the printout on TIS2WEB even after your calibration?

 

I'm interested, but very skeptical of the above statement....

 

Interested. Email sent.

 

I'm not trying to question your credibility or anything but I see a few problems with the gains you are posting. The car in the pictures in the first post is clearly strapped to a Mustang Dyno, but the dyno sheet on your Facebook page says "DYNOJET RESEARCH" on the top. You also posted that these results are for the ATS, Regal GS, and Malibu LTZ. The Regal GS does not come with the same engine that the ATS and Malibu have. Which car are those results from? I searched around on the internet and could not find any feedback from anyone on your tune for any of the listed vehicles. You mention that you need this car for a full day, but in my past experience (I've owned several GM 2.0T cars in the past including a Solstice GXP and a Cobalt SS Turbocharged) dyno tunes only take a couple of hours max. Have you actually tuned one of these before? It almost sounds like you have not, and are looking for someone to leave their car with you to experiment on.

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Btw those pics look like they where taken at evoms headquarters
I use to have there software on my gli

 

72 to 81hp is a pretty big jump for just a tune on a stock setup? Do you also tune the tranny?

Kevin

 

good to see some more variety coming to these cars for aftermarket upgrades. looking forward to some photos of the CAI

 

Thanks for clarifying

 

Hey.

What was your baseline dyno? On the 2.0T. and what was the rwhp and rwtq after your tune?

 

Keep hearing stories about parts being released, sure would be nice to see some product.

 

I'd like to see a Dyno Video with obvious camera panning to before and after screens, not calling you guys liars, but a 80Hp jump in power from a tune with no supporting mods is a "gotta see it to believe it" thing

I think whats on most peoples mind though is warranty, is this actually undetectable? I know they can figure out the last time you took a crap at a dealership if they have to.

is it a select able tune through "mode" ?

if I have an aftermarket intake, can it be calibrated to deal with that to? will it work on a manual just the same?

Finally, to tune it, is that $395+ $100 or so for a cable? is it a simple plug in, load the software and you're good to go?

 

80 HP without bolt-ons doesn't sound feasible.

 

It's possible. But I won't believe it without independent proof.

I think 80 may be remotely "possible" because GM must severely reduce the potential boost the turbo could make. It makes max torque at a very low RPM and apparently, then cuts boost to cap that torque peak at higher RPMs. If you just removed the cap, 80 extra HP seems reasonable. Of course there is a reason GM limited the torque output and we don't know what part fails first if torque and/or RPMs are raised enough to translate into 80 extra HP. I think 80 HP falls within the "survive one or two dyno runs without blowing up" range. So even if the tune does make an extra 80 on a dyno, I'll wait to see how long customer motors last.

 

It won't blow the engine.. Tune is everything on a boosted engine. But I see realistically 80whp added
With a downpipe and intake + tune. Pistons are weak point on the LTG IMO. FORGED RODS AND
CRANKSHAFT definitely are not. Add fuel and boost,timing. more air in and less blockage with high flow or
Catless downpipe. I'm pretty sure we can safely see 300 rwhp and 320 rwtq. Not sure how big injectors
are or fuel pump but my guess is 300 rwhp and 320rwtq will push tem too there safe limits.

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It won't blow the engine.. Tune is everything on a boosted engine. But I see realistically 80whp added
With a downpipe and intake + tune. Pistons are weak point on the LTG IMO. FORGED RODS AND
CRANKSHAFT definitely are not. Add fuel and boost,timing. more air in and less blockage with high flow or
Catless downpipe. I'm pretty sure we can safely see 300 rwhp and 320 rwtq. Not sure how big injectors
are or fuel pump but my guess is 300 rwhp and 320rwtq will push tem too there safe limits.

But never say never when mechanical parts are involved. Safe tune will prevent detonation.

 

I have seen gains like that from turbo cars before, it is not out of the realm of possibility.
This is also 80 hp at the crank, not the wheels. Also this would be a peak horsepower improvement.
the standard power graph for this engine looks like a table, all the power coming on at a low rpm and keeping it to the higher rpm band. this tune probably adds a peak in the late middle of the graph.
What would be most telling would be a 1/4 mile run of a tuned car vs a non tuned car. Or a before and after. Or heck the before and after dyno sheets wold be nice, I could work a "this makes it faster or slower" from that.

 

KPE seems to have disappeared from this thread yet their product is live on their website without gains listed or dyno charts, etc. I have called KPE and emailed them and yet I get nothing.

 

I think KPE is in Phoenix. Anyone have an address? I'll swing by and see what's up.

 

Dyno's don't give "to the flywheel" numbers, and for any company to advertise "to the flywheel" horsepower is retarded. That would mean the tune is only producing upwards of 30-40hp to the wheels, which although perhaps more realistic...it's obviously misleading and disappointing.

I have a custom tune on my 2011 Sonata 2.0T that took it from 231hp/231tq to 293hp/256tq.

Direct-injected 2.0T motors have A LOT of potential, so from experience I would agree that 70+HP is definitely possible, but my immediate concern would be things like the stock intercooler having terrible heatsoak.

Basically, for anyone buying these tunes..I would highly recommend you at least do follow-on BPU's to help compensate for the increased Intake Air Temps, increased exhaust flow requirements, etc.

What I want to know is, would this be a straight "CAN" tune that you buy and run and that's it? Is there any product support after that? Like for people like me who would run full BPU's in addition to the tune?

And what about user-level tuning?

Whether it's the Sonata/Optima community or here, I'm recognizing a consistent lack of user-level tuning options. I guess it's these company's ways of keeping you as returning customers, which is fine...I just hate it.

I personally would rather have a Cobb Accessport or AEM EMS style piggyback that allows user-level tuning. :/

 

Again, 50-60+ HP from a tune from stock HP is totally realistic.

Here's my Sonata dyno as reference, as I previously mentioned:

So again, I believe that a 70+HP gain from stock IS possible on a direct-injected 2.0T engine, but until I see a stock VS. tune dyno or the typical dyno video...I'm not "buying it".

 

Wow! The other thread had just way too much drama between people. Can someone explain the dyno graph to me? I'm counting the largest difference between the lines and if I understand this correctly, if I get the KPE tune, I'll gain 22 Eng Power and 45 Eng Torque? From 199 to 221 Eng Power and from about 235 to about 280 Eng Torque? Is that 22 HP then? At the tires? Thats pretty good right? And how would this affect my warranty exactly? How would the dealership or GM know that I have added a tune to my car? And is that the entire warranty?

 

No, that is not what you should take from the chart. Refer to the dyno disclaimers in the original post. You won't get a fixed HP or torque increase from a tune because air temperature, etc.. have a huge effect. 100+ temps in Phoenix sap a huge amount of power from my ATS and Syclone. Yes, I got 46 extra lb/ft but if they did the exact same pulls in February, the increase could have been 60+ (for example). Secondly different dynos and different types of dynos read drastically differently. But The gains were consistently 20% until the high end where some other factor than temps kicked in. The best theories so far is that's all the turbo, and/or exhaust can do (percentage wise) at high RPMs.

So I think the best we can extrapolate for other conditions is a 20% increase for the meat of the powerband. In other words, if you take the factory 272 rating (at the crank) after this tune, my engine runs like a 32x HP engine would, at least in the RPMs that were seeing 20% increases from the tune.

 

Hi! Thanks for the explanation, do you mean this dyno graph?

Thats even better, I was going to say that 22 Eng Power and 45 Eng Torque is okay for me already, my last car when tuned did not feel like it was any faster. It was not a turbo car though.

I am in albuquerque, new mexico, and we too have 100F days, the last few days were a relief from the heat thanks to the rain. So the heat we've got as well. I don't know about more power in february because there might still be snow in places around here in jan/feb.

What is the gas like in arizona? The gas in new mexico is pretty crappy, and I don't know if I can always find premium to fill up on. What would happen with this tune if regular grade was used? Will I have engine damage?

And if I add this tune to my car, will different ethanol in the gas cause engine damage as well?

I've emailed KPE and still don't have anything back from them, do you have a phone number that I can reach KPE at? Or maybe a different email address of someone in sales?