I was thinking about that mod as well. Does it whistle?
Just installed Volant intake, cannot believe the huge power gains I got!
I was amazed! Never thought an intake could do so much! My only speed mod before this was a tune. After putting the Volant on, the tires break loose at WOT all the way through 1st, 2nd and the first half of third gear. The power surge is amazing at 3000rpms when that engine starts getting louder it just throws you back in your seats like a quick spooling turbo! I was just going to do only a filter replacement, but when I was able to pick up this Volant used (only 1.5 months) for $100 dollars, I said screw it. Best investment ever!
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I don't think I've ever heard of any one being this excited about a CAI. I'm gald it worked out for ya.:thumbsup:
Jon
Jon
"for informational purposes only"
http://www.cadillacforums.com/forum...crap-volant-intake.html?highlight=crap+volant
http://www.cadillacforums.com/forum...crap-volant-intake.html?highlight=crap+volant
"for informational purposes only"
http://www.cadillacforums.com/forum...crap-volant-intake.html?highlight=crap+volant
:lol:
:yeah: (what austin said)
Been there, done that.
Classic placebo effect?
Been there, done that.
Classic placebo effect?
I have one in practically new condition if anyone is interested. I removed it when I had my Maggie installed. For what it's worth, it is the nicest, fit and finish, CAI for the V. You should never expect a great deal of gain from a CAI alone.
No whistle, but it does sound like a fighter jet taking off! :want:I was thinking about that mod as well. Does it whistle?
"for informational purposes only"
http://www.cadillacforums.com/forum...crap-volant-intake.html?highlight=crap+volant
That looks like just a bunch of propaganda or something or maybe a broken dyno. Judging by the seat of the pants I would say this mod is at least 30 horsepower. :worship:
Did that thing ever happen. Or shouldn't i mention it. I am bone stock and am going to baseline dyno...."for informational purposes only"
http://www.cadillacforums.com/forum...crap-volant-intake.html?highlight=crap+volant
Dyno >>>>>>>>>>>> SOTP... I am bone stock and am going to baseline dyno....
Physically impossible. Do you work for Volant or something?That looks like just a bunch of propaganda or something or maybe a broken dyno. Judging by the seat of the pants I would say this mod is at least 30 horsepower. :worship:
I know you guys aren't shy about calling BS but help me w/ something.
The intake ducting for new cars is made of plastic - relatively cheap when compared to stainless in an exhaust system.
To get more hp by opening up the intake can be equated to better efficiency of operation by using less power to suck air into the engine. Or for the same energy, you can get more air (plus fuel) and generate more power.
Now I can understand the cost benefit analysis of not making the exhaust system less restrictive and more efficient.
But why would any auto manufacturer limit the size of the inlet ducting and not take advantage of almost free mileage gains? I have doubts that some aftermarket vendor can economically take advantage of any increase in hp or efficiency by opening up the air box and ducting above what GM or others would do if they could.
Man - I'm not sure if I understand what I said but I know what I meant:bigroll:
Can someone tell me why GM left 30 hp (at the wheels since that's what SOTP feels) or 7.5% efficiency of low hanging fruit out there?
The intake ducting for new cars is made of plastic - relatively cheap when compared to stainless in an exhaust system.
To get more hp by opening up the intake can be equated to better efficiency of operation by using less power to suck air into the engine. Or for the same energy, you can get more air (plus fuel) and generate more power.
Now I can understand the cost benefit analysis of not making the exhaust system less restrictive and more efficient.
But why would any auto manufacturer limit the size of the inlet ducting and not take advantage of almost free mileage gains? I have doubts that some aftermarket vendor can economically take advantage of any increase in hp or efficiency by opening up the air box and ducting above what GM or others would do if they could.
Man - I'm not sure if I understand what I said but I know what I meant:bigroll:
Can someone tell me why GM left 30 hp (at the wheels since that's what SOTP feels) or 7.5% efficiency of low hanging fruit out there?
We're talking about primarily WOT conditions here, while GM is designing for part throttle also, but you're mostly right (though many times manufacturers make some compromises, I'm sure). Personally there's no way I'd believe in a 30 hp increase without dyno numbers before and after install ... and not a butt dyno, either.
BTW, butt dynos aren't all they're cracked up to be.
BTW, butt dynos aren't all they're cracked up to be.
Let me put it to you this way:
When they advertise performance parts (like intakes), they do a before an after dyno run, then advertise the peak HP gain in their ads. The peak gain could be at 6300 RPM, which you will only see for .1 second before redlining and therefore will have almost NO effect on your acceleration. Advertised HP numbers are always higher than what you really gain, which is why they always use the words "UP TO xxx hp gain" in their ads.
If K&N and Volant only advertise 9-12hp for their intakes, you can count on 4-8 gain MAX. Your brain is hearing the sound and thinking you're faster, plus since you just added a "performance part", you're hitting the gas harder and shifting harder, hence the chirping tires on shifts.
When they advertise performance parts (like intakes), they do a before an after dyno run, then advertise the peak HP gain in their ads. The peak gain could be at 6300 RPM, which you will only see for .1 second before redlining and therefore will have almost NO effect on your acceleration. Advertised HP numbers are always higher than what you really gain, which is why they always use the words "UP TO xxx hp gain" in their ads.
If K&N and Volant only advertise 9-12hp for their intakes, you can count on 4-8 gain MAX. Your brain is hearing the sound and thinking you're faster, plus since you just added a "performance part", you're hitting the gas harder and shifting harder, hence the chirping tires on shifts.
Maybe he paid for his Volant in sacks of pennies...
You have been on these boards long enough and have enough experiance over at LS1 tech...... what's up with the b.s. post?That looks like just a bunch of propaganda or something or maybe a broken dyno. Judging by the seat of the pants I would say this mod is at least 30 horsepower. :worship:
:yeah:Let me put it to you this way:
If K&N and Volant only advertise 9-12hp for their intakes, you can count on 4-8 gain MAX. Your brain is hearing the sound and thinking you're faster, plus since you just added a "performance part", you're hitting the gas harder and shifting harder, hence the chirping tires on shifts.
They are selling you something, and it's not just the CAI. I think most stock cars would be LUCKY to see 4 HP, much less the BS 10-15 they tell you from only adding that one part. Let's face it, if we could honestly achieve 10-15 HP at the wheels from a 200.00 part, most owners would jump all over it, that's a cheap upgrade.
I've had my car on the dyno three different times now. The first run is the lowest and the 3rd or 4th run is the highest, every time, without changing a thing. If I do a first run with a stock box and then stick on someone's CAI and do a couple of more runs I could claim a 10HP increase over the stock box too.
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