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When I went to my local Caddy dealership for parts this past Friday, I noticed that they were changing the hourly rate on the boards, that they keep above the service advisors desk. They had changed it to read for Devilles, $105 dollars per flat rate hour, and for Sevilles, STS, SLS etc, $110 per hour.
I went over to the service advisor and asked him why the difference, he told me that about 37 dollars of that goes to the mechanic and because Sevilles required more training, the mechanic needs to get about 40 dollars an hour for his upgrades. He also said that because the mechanics wanted more money, they had to up the door rate to accomodate that. While, I do believe that mechanics are worth every penny that's paid to them, after all, 50 grand in tools, working in all kinds of slop and crap, and putting up with service advisors who want to flog them to death and make money off them, I do belive that the rate is excessive, what do you guys think, I hope this post is in the proper location.
 

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Wow dealership mechanics get paid $40 an hour?

Do they get paid for 40 hours or just the hours they spend working on a car?

so they can make an easy 1600 a week? That's pretty good I'm sure there's a catch though.
 

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Its a bit excessive , by about 20 bucks , then again it depends on where you live , my rate when i wrenched on diesels in alaska was around 125 per hour ....

The mechanics starve back there , lemme tell ya.....You know those oil changes you get at dealerships for like 27 bucks ? guess how much the tech makes that changes your oil ......3 dollars ....These poor guys get cheated all day when you comapre what they get and what is perscribed by the manuals , books will call for a task to take 4 hours , the dealership will pay the tech for 3 hours and his perecntage of the labor rate is right around 10-15 bucks per hour , the rest of the money goes to the dealer to pay the staff and make sure the owner doesnt have to settle for a humble cadillac to drive back and forth to work ...Dealerships have been the first place i have seen personally where the mechanics arent paid or given the hours the book calls for
 

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Wow dealership mechanics get paid $40 an hour?

Do they get paid for 40 hours or just the hours they spend working on a car?

so they can make an easy 1600 a week? That's pretty good I'm sure there's a catch though.
NO!!!

They get paid by the job , lets say the book says "4.2 hours to replace the steering shaft" , if it takes the tech 2 hours GREAT (he does 2 hours worth of work and gets paid for 4.2) if it takes him 5 hours hes gonna starve (remeber he gets 4.2 hours no matter what) ....The more service he can perform below what the book calls for the more he can make per day , this means every job is rushed so he can get the next job and try to keep his family off ramen noodles and keep the lights on at the same time ...

We have techs that due to what some dealers do like cut away the hours the book calls for ie: paid 3 hours for a 4.2 hour job...they barely crack 32 hours per week , some of the busier guys barely pull 4-7 hundred per week ....
 

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The Cadillac dealers near me charge around $85 per hour flat rate.
 

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my caddy dealer charges a flat $110 for anything and everything even just a diagnosis and they are on an unlimited basis

Say you want them to check something out well if it takes them 4 hours to diagnose they charge you for 4 hours at least that's what they told me.

I guess they were just telling you that the techs get half to make you feel a little better about spending the money etc.

Yet I never heard of a mechanic making that much in a dealership etc.

My uncle makes about $20 an hour in a chevy dealership but it is flexible pay they also have like a minimum they'll pay him in case they're aren't enough cars but he says that hasn't happened yet. He's told me his checks are decent I really never got into details though and I was shocked by a tech making $40 or so an hour.

I think in a dealership you pay more for the "look" of good service in a big shop more than actually getting more service in a good shop.
 

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I'm not sure what the local Cadillac dealer's labor rate is however I know the BMW is $90/hour. I'll be going by the Caddy dealership this week to get an extra set of keys cut for my "new" DeVille so I'll be sure to check this out.

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My Advice Is Check With Family, Friends & Relatives For The Best Local Shop Around Town. If You Go To The Dealer All The Time To Get All Your Stuff Done ,you Know Your Going To Pay Out The Nose. I Never Take My Cars To The Dealer Until I Can't Find A Local Garage To Fix It.
 

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Well I checked my 2 dealers. One charge 95/hr and the other one doesn't have flat rate labor hour, each job is differnt?

Well if you want to make great money as a technician go work for the Aviation Industry. My instructor make 6 figure every years. They are pay by the hour not job.
 

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Well if you want to make great money as a technician go work for the Aviation Industry. My instructor make 6 figure every years. They are pay by the hour not job.
:histeric:Have you been watching the news in the last few years.
 

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Ranger said:
:histeric:Have you been watching the news in the last few years.
Yes I have, what I meant is to work for a privately own facility not commercial business (American Airline, Delta, Continetal, ETC)
 

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Well I don't know what non commercial pays but I suspect it is less than a major airline. 100K is probably possible but I would suspect it involves a lot of overtime.
 

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Well I don't know what non commercial pays but I suspect it is less than a major airline. 100K is probably possible but I would suspect it involves a lot of overtime.
Yes non commercial pay more, Overtime maybe once a months. I do recall when my instructor work 20 hours at one point. But here a great web where he work at: http://www.garrettaviation.com/
 

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I don't know how aviation mechanic wages got into this thread but I must state that A&P , IA , mechanics in general aviation are not paid enough.

For decades I have wished that the man that works on GA aircraft gets paid as much as the guy who wrenches my auto. It is frightening at the liability an A&P faces for peanut wages.

It has become an unwritten rule of manhood that a father passes down to his sons. When you purchase auto from a dealer avoid the dealer's service department like the plague. I believe this to be a true statement and it has sold a lot of craftsman tools to the DIY crowd.

If you cannot go for the 105.00 Hr rate at least go talk to Parts Counter guy. Listen and you will learn nuances about your model cadillac. GM knows you are at the counter and have hundreds of IMPROVED service kits for your
model. Every notice that there are TWO counters at dealer. Wide one for the dealer mechanics small one for the six pack crowd so parts guy can sell you!

Autos are lasting longer and even small auto repair shops seem to be more stressed to make profit than say ten years ago.

I want to make an effort to avoid being at the dealership paying 105.00 per hour and Cadillac forums is a great help for us in that regard.

You don't see a lot of autos stranded on the side of the road and this is good, however I was in a sore predicament recently and my life was worth more than 105.00 Hr. It becomes an individual judgement decision that apparently we each must face.

Sorry if I said too much.
 

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Since the new year, I have out of curiousity, started asking around at some of the smaller shops to see what they are charging, the lowest flat rate hr I got was $79 per hr. I am sure If I really dig I could probably find a shop that would be in the high 60's. All the shops that I pass by are packed with cars, these days, you no longer go into a dealership and get your car out before 5 oclock, the dealer and others no longer stock parts, thanks to that worthless system of just in time delivery. That means longer waits, and its not uncommon for cars to sit and wait on their parts coming in. This may not be everyones experience, but it sure is around where I live. One of the biggest changes in recent years has been muffler shops no longer being able to sell exhaust systems anymore, thks to stainless steel, my 96 Regal just went to the boneyard with its original exhaust on it. These shops now try to sell brakes, and anything else that can be extracted from the owners. Shops now are tacking on oxy charges, rag charges, enviromental charges, all on top of their door rate. They have also switched to a system, where only one or two mechanics will work at the shop, they will have certain specialists, brakes, exhaust, frontend etc, who will work only on these systems. The mechanics are supposed to check this work before the car leaves the shop. We all know this happens with no problems. Sorry about the long winded post, but C170B says, thats what this forum is about, not having to go and get 105 dollar service done.
 

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MY SENTIMENTS EXACTLY. IF YA HAVE A FEW WRENCHES & BASIC MECHANICAL KNOWLEDGE YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO WORK ON IT YOURSELF. IF NOT POST IT ON HERE.:thumbsup:
 

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The cheapest cadd dealer I've found was 95/hr.
I've bee to a few. Most of them around 99-105 so I think thats ball park.
There was on in NYC charging 115/hr....kinda excessive.
 
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