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This is not V related but seeing as i am a fan of anything that goes fast i wanted to share.

If anyone is interested in taking a look at the thread then here: http://forums.evolutionm.net/showthread.php?t=162216&page=1&pp=1




This sick setup is going into an EVO 8. The guy is looking at over 40+ lbs of boost i think! Somewhere upwards of 750 AWHP!!! to the grond!

I wonder how much it would cost to put a turbo that big on a V!!:devil:
 

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Even with that much hp I will smoke it off the line, WITH MY AMAZING wheel hop I will start behind and jump past him:lies: .

That car is sick awd and with that much hp, I've been in evo with 500hp to the wheels and you don't get spin off the line , A loud chirp and it goes, I wonder if this car does a full on 4 wheel burn out.:histeric: I would line up just to see this car run a quarter mile , it must be awesome
 

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What's that smell? Overcooked rice?
 

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I like EVOs and STis but can't anyone come up with an engine bay that has one anodized color throughout the engine bay? That purple crap is what makes it look dumb.





But I'm sure I'd pee my pants if I went for a ride.:bonkers:
 

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Guys--it IS possible to have too much of a good thing and 700+ rwhp probably qualifies.

I know a few gentlemen that have 700+ rwhp vettes that can't floor the damn things in THIRD gear for crying out loud, lest the rear tires go up in smoke...:bonkers:

Most of the time, I think motors THAT strong for the street are more for bragging rights then anything else. The funny thing is, less powerful motors, in these cases, will often outperform such monsters, as they just can't get the power down in a nice, predictable manner...

Granted, these AWD creatures are a different breed, but give me a break--700+ to the tires??

"Oh, if a little is good, a lot MUST be better!" ...:bonkers:
 

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i don't think this is a matter of what the car look slike or what it is.....it's just an example of what's possible.

700+hp vettes are one thing.... but 700+ AWHP 2.3L 4 cyclinder is another...
 

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LOL--with 40 lbs of boost? That doesn't surprise me at all, 4 cylinders or not. :)
 

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naiculnila said:
I wonder what an LS6 with 35-40 lbs of boost would do....
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No matter how one slices it, its still rice.

It about makes me puke every time I see a CTS-V's serpentine belt with "Mitsubishi" printed on it.

Traveling the world, I've come to appreciate the American standard of living and our fine V8 power.
 

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My opinion of rice is cars that have the visual modifications but not the performance ie..fart can mufflers, huge wings, gaudy graphics..
In all honesty, that is how I would define it as well. I especially enjoyed the "fart-can muffler" reference, as that is word-for-word how I describe those dumbasses. :histeric:
 

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700hp on anything is a little much, but with AWD it makes it easier to live with. The problem with the Evo is that the tranny may not take the power, even stock guys are having issues....dragracing.

It's a shame, it really is a great performance vehicle. With a few tweaks, the Evo can be a phenomenal car being used as it was intended...the problem starts when these f'idiots take a car that was designed to operate in a limited traction enviroment(rally or roadcourse) and then mount drag-slicks and LAUNCH the car on the strip. It's like using a samurai sword to chop down a tree, it can be done but it doesn't make it a good idea.

F'king shame...a real shame.
-ace

And Jason pretty much nailed the "rice" description. Hell, even those Mustangs with cleared-out taillamps are "rice" to me....
 

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I have a few freinds with Evo's with all the mods...Most are pushing 400 to 425 at the rear wheels and easily have over $50K into their cars.....On the way home from SEMA a couple weeks ago I got to tangle with Two of them on a wide open stretch on the way home. Make no mistake these cars are quick from 45 to 100mph....but sleep easy CTS-V owners, as Evo's due not have the top end gearing to hang past 120mph mark. These full tilt Evo's I played with just don't have the torque or the gearing to push things hard. Basically In stock trim, my V hung every bit of what they could throw at me. When they finally caught up and we pulled off in Barstow for a late night snack, one of the owners said he was done with his Evo and was ordering a new Charger RT to play with :D Just my 2 cents...
 

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Katech said:
Broaden your horizons man! 750hp that without traction problems...how is that rice?
With that much HP they do have traction problems. Last time to the track there was an Evo there trapping 125+ MPH in the 1/4 (not 750, but probably 500 HP). He could not get that thing launched to rip off a 10-second pass (even with a trans brake helping him launch it). It spun off the line every time. I beat his best ET of the night with and 11.3 at a measly 117 MPH trap speed. It may have been an isolated incident, but I do believe there comes a point where AWD becomes a detriment. To this day, nothing has proven more effective on real fast cars than a a big front engine, long-ish chassis, and big sticky tires in the back. Otherwise Pro Street cars would've adopted AWD technology a long time ago.

On a street car, a pair of drag radials is the great equalizer. I can drive to the track, rip off 1.5-1.6 60' times and drive home without doing so much as touching the air pressure. The new tire technology is awesome.

I like watching fast Evos, WRXs and even Neons. They provide me the inspiration to go faster. I would hate to be beat by one. I know the day is coming, but it hasn't happened yet ;)

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With that much HP they do have traction problems. Last time to the track there was an Evo there trapping 125+ MPH in the 1/4 (not 750, but probably 500 HP). He could not get that thing launched to rip off a 10-second pass (even with a trans brake helping him launch it). It spun off the line every time. I beat his best ET of the night with and 11.3 at a measly 117 MPH trap speed. It may have been an isolated incident, but I do believe there comes a point where AWD becomes a detriment. To this day, nothing has proven more effective on real fast cars than a a big front engine, long-ish chassis, and big sticky tires in the back. Otherwise Pro Street cars would've adopted AWD technology a long time ago.

On a street car, a pair of drag radials is the great equalizer. I can drive to the track, rip off 1.5-1.6 60' times and drive home without doing so much as touching the air pressure. The new tire technology is awesome.

I like watching fast Evos, WRXs and even Neons. They provide me the inspiration to go faster. I would hate to be beat by one. I know the day is coming, but it hasn't happened yet ;)

Jim
I think the on the rare case of an Evo having a traction problem, it's due to an overzelous driver launching at 7000rpm. I have a lot of experience driving a 500hp all wheel drive car and I never have traction problems. I am more conservative than most and launch at lower rpm. How can it have a trans brake when they are all sticks?:duck:
 
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