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THANK U THANK U THANK U GM... I love U for this car.

I found it interesting that the Politicians exclaim that GM doesn't build cars that people want.. yet I find myself with two cars in my garage that have me literally trying to come up with excuses why I can't go to Easter Dinner so that I might have time to drive them both on this beautiful sunny day. I was lucky on Friday that I was able to have a fairly nice sunny run up to South Jersey... via 95n in my LS3 Powered 477HP Z51... Just as fortunate that yesterday after the rain went away I was able to take my lovely wife out to Fogo De Chao for dinner in Baltimore.. where the valets went absolutely GA-GA over my super 556HP Cadillac V. I mean this isn't a strange thing.. My previous luxo car was a black 2005 STS 4.6L. That car tended to stop people in their tracks, despite the fact that GM neglected marketing it properly... or making it larger to compete with what it should have been competing... or give it an updated Direct-Injected or Super-Charged base V8 with more that it's.. or the M45's 320-25HP.

But it doesn't stop there. GM has plenty of cars like this... I'm thinking of the G8, the Camaro, the Escalade, Denali, Tahoe, Enclave, Acadia, Traverse, Malibu, Sky, Aura, Cobalt SS, HHR, XLR, upcoming Lacrosse, Equinox, Terrain and Cruze.

Truth is that cars like the CTS, Malibu and such simply personafies where GM could go.. where Cadillac should be across the board. The CTS-V is the reapings of what was before the financial meltdown... right before the new UAW contracts were to coome on line.

The very idea of this car is ADDICTIVE. Cadillac took an already stellar car, tweaked it's suspension, it's braking, it's cool.. added one of the most durable, race-proven, efficient, and powerful engines in the world.. from one of the greatest cars in the world... and created a recipe that would have Mother Theresa turnin' trix on the Boulevard to afford the $65K askin price.:cool2:

The car is MONEY, COOL, SLICK, SEXY, BOMBASTIC... whatever U wanna call it... :thumbsup:

And let me say.. if Cadillac simply continues to put out cars as great as the BASE CTS.. let alone the "V"... they will have a Luxo line-up that will ultimately reign over the Luxo Segment. The upcoming SRX is very promising, and I only wish that a Turbo 3.6L would hop in there to give us a "V" Crossover with XWD to kick the shyt outta the upcoming X5m:gun2:

I just had to say it... Let's get thru this GM. OH.. and KEEP HUMMER... at least the essence.. even if U have merge it with GMC to throw the uninformed fools in Washington off your scent.
 

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GM certainly has the ability to attract import buyers with excellent product. After all, they snagged me, a mostly Honda/Acura buyer the last 20 years, in the midst of my wanting a RWD performance luxury sedan. Owning this car has allowed me to answer the question...."What is torque?" Believe me, torque is addicting.

The REAL magic of the V is that it is as good or better than the German and Japanese competition.....at a cut rate price relatively speaking. In addition, the hype around this car is NOT BS if you ever have the chance to drive one. I'm hoping the reliability is at least decent...from what I'm reading on the base CTS board, it should be.
 

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I wouldn't worry about the reliability to much. The Warranty will cover any manufacture defects and Road Side Assist and a guaranteed Cadillac Loaner will do the rest. I doubt U will have any issues with the LSA either.. it's a Corvette motor that is bullet-proof as long as U keep it "oiled and watered.":thumbsup:

I look at the upcoming products and it is what truly excites me. CArs like the Malibu, Enclave, Cruze, Equinox, and SRX make me seriously question WHY anyone would even consider, especially in these economic times, buying a foreign made vehicle.

I actually was talking to this fool about his '05 Silverado 1500 and his desire to get a new one. He said that he bought it brand new in 2005, has put 200K on the odo already... and now.. because it's interior has developed a rattle.. is considering getting a TUNDRA.

I said to him "DUDE.. are U serious??? A TUNDRA???:eek: A Tundra is rated as the second WORST P/U on the market behind the TITAN. The engine was exploding FORGODSAKE, and even Toyota admitted that it was a lackluster effort."

He was clueless.. said he had heard Toyota built the best products. Which we allkno is a load of shyt.. and a quick check of any website or even the Toyota owned Consumer Reports will tell him that the Tundra is a POS.. and the Silvy.. along with the Sierra and Fseries are TOP DOGS in the segment.

Anyway... as for the new direction...

I loved the old SRX Sport.. but the more I see the new one I see that it is what it SHOULD BE. It has the presence to be a real recognizable winner for Cadillac. It seems as tho.. form the reviews with just limited seat time that it will be capable of fighting both the Lexus RX and the BMW X5 in one vehicle.

I keep saying that PERFORMANCE is not confined to RWD architecture.. and truth is that if I were in charge of Cadillac I would initially piss a lot of people on THESE forums off by making all of their cars utilize XWD only, while incorporating lighter weight aluminum and carbon fiber to counter any additional weight gain from the XWD system. The 911, RS4, and the GTR prove that performance can come from AWD and yield better times in some situations + better handling using less powerful motors.

TRADITIONS are OUT THE WINDOW.. Survival is first and foremost.. and if U want to continue to see stellar performance vehicles they will have to find ways of doing it efficiently... and MARKETING must make it known. I applaud the efforts of Ford's Ecoboost in this respect. It takes a combination of technology that GM has been using for 3 years on mainstream vehicles in the U.S. (Solstice/SKY GXP) and let's people kno aboutit by giving it a name.

MARKETING...


I mean is the "HEMI" really better than the "LS"?? HELL NAAAW.. But as people what does that Dodge Charger have in it.. and they will kno.
 

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Very well put although I would keep Saturn over Hummer.

Sadly though, GM (and the other domestics) have a PERCEPTION problem where many will not even consider their wares. I had some pretty incredible reactions from friends/acquaintances when they first heard that I bought a Cadillac; when they actually looked at or rode in the car, they were quite impressed although some are still convinced my car will self destruct at any time or be a horrible "lemon".

Why? Start with the Chevy Vega and work through the 1980's (Cadi Cimarron) and early 1990's (Cutlass Ciera) where GM quality was not what it needed to be which created bad childhood family car or 1st car memories that are still very resilient in people's minds.

Good product, warranty, service and resale value will eventually turn that around, but not overnight.

The good news is that GM recognizes the depth of perception issue, Bob Lutz and Fritz Henderson have both alluded to it recently.

Lets hope GM can stay afloat long enough to reap the benefits of their current good products and start making money again.
 

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To the OP: Great write-up, with much truth. You should put this information in the "Open letters to Cadillac" portion of this forum. It is a spot that is all too often used for complaints. Your compliments will certainly be well received there too.:thumbsup:

http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/open-letters-cadillac-corporate/


Oh, and that "Mother Theresa turnin tricks" one liner was a ball bust... :histeric:
 

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Well done, however, Washington would want nothing less than to kill it. Gas guzzling V8 C'mon, you
must be kidding. No one in their right mind would want to drive one of those! I can't wait for mine
to get here!

I thought my 08 Z06 was a good bang for the buck, but the V seems like just as much car, if not
more, less money, and seats 4!(5) Maybe a hair slower than the Z, but still capable of running with
the big boys.
 

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Well done, however, Washington would want nothing less than to kill it. Gas guzzling V8 C'mon, you
must be kidding. No one in their right mind would want to drive one of those! I can't wait for mine
to get here!

I thought my 08 Z06 was a good bang for the buck, but the V seems like just as much car, if not
more, less money, and seats 4!(5) Maybe a hair slower than the Z, but still capable of running with
the big boys.

OK.. first of all let me say that I'm proud of U having a Garage similar to mine with the Z06 and CTS-V (?) sitting next to each other. I'll one up U with a beautiful Tahoe LTZ, Saab 9-3 Aero, and Pontiac G6 in the driveway as a testament to my FAITH in GM.:cool2:

As for it being a "hair" slower.. Interesting enough U are correct.. and I did get a chance to test that a coupla weeks back on 95N when a Blue Z06 saw the V on the side of my car and commence trying to show me up.. YES.. he stayed ahead.. but not by much;)
 

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Very well put although I would keep Saturn over Hummer.

Sadly though, GM (and the other domestics) have a PERCEPTION problem where many will not even consider their wares. I had some pretty incredible reactions from friends/acquaintances when they first heard that I bought a Cadillac; when they actually looked at or rode in the car, they were quite impressed although some are still convinced my car will self destruct at any time or be a horrible "lemon".

The good news is that GM recognizes the depth of perception issue, Bob Lutz and Fritz Henderson have both alluded to it recently.

Lets hope GM can stay afloat long enough to reap the benefits of their current good products and start making money again.




The very idea of entering into a BK "bankruptcy protection in as little as two weeks, using $5 billion to $7 billion in federal financing" is UNHEARD OF in the business world. Only a company the size of GM would even be considered in something like this... and I will whole-heartedly say that I am relieved.

#1 Have Government announce that they are BACKING warranties, start making cost cuts including dealer shut-downs thru old partner GMAC not funding Floor Plans or even customer financing pushing them outta business thru simple death, not court. Also announce sale of 3 smallest Dealer networked Brands, all of which could be supplanted by another brand due to lack of real sales and loyalty.. or true differentiation.

The HUMMER brand being the most unique, judging by the possible styling language of the upcoming GMCs is essentially being merged. Saab will still have to rely on GM for tech, thus now GM will be selling them tech and not having to give it to them.

#2 Come out with GM TOTAL CONFIDENCE which covers U with a 5yr/100K mile Gov backed warranty (no different that the Banks having FDIC), TRADE IN Value Protection, Onstar, and 9Months/$500 a month Payment Insurance if U lose your job...

GOOD GOD ALMIGHTY... that's STRONG!!!
Makes U wanna be in Car Sales right now Doesn't it?

#3 File for BK wiping out all but approx. 25% of your total debt using assets designated to be BAD ASSETS left to be sold off in the "OLD General Motors"



#4 Emerge from BK 2 weeks later before 80% of the population even gets wind of U filing in the first place... with automatic low interest loans waiting for U of $5-7 Billion to get U thru essentially July-Dec (KEEP IN MIND that GM hasn't required new cash from the Feds since January because the cost cutting has led them to be able to operate on their own cash-flow)


#5 upon emerging from the BK.. the new GM.. now known as GLOBAL MOTORS
(helps save them from having to replace those "Chicklets" on the bottom of their vehicles already produced)
, gives a middle finger to the UAW, the Banks/Hedge Funds, and Rivals because now... they are able to move "freely" without so much effin FAT holding them back...


GOD BLESS GM as they are they ARE the symbol of what was great in American manufacturing. They killed our Steel Industry... they Killed out Electronics Industry.. Please don't let the liberals, kill our Heavy Industry

Can I get an AMEN!!! :worship:
 
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