OK...I kept digging and found this........

QUOTE FROM CURBSIDECLASSIC.COM ......

"The CTS, until its recently-launched third generation, straddled segments. Consequently, the CTS Sport Wagon was initially priced closer to the 3-Series wagon but sized more like a 5-Series. Of course, wagons always attract a niche audience. Of the 254,000 second-generation CTS models produced, just 7,000 wagons were sold despite the wagon’s fairly lengthy 2010-2014 run (the sedan was sold from 2008-2013). Of the 7,000, just 1,200 were CTS-V wagons. Make no mistake, those wagons will be collectors’ items one day."

http://www.curbsideclassic.com/futu...ts-sport-wagon-agree-or-disagree-is-this-the-most-beautiful-station-wagon-ever/

 

I think all CTS wagons, not only the V, will be a collector item regardless of it's powertrain in 50 years. I personally don't like the look of the V with it's front fascia or the 19" wheels. Doesn't look classy and pure elegant the way a Caddy should look. Just my opinion.

2010 CTS (All) - 40,100
Sedan - 36,548
Wagon - 3,552

2011 CTS (All) - 57,943
Sedan - 40,591
Coupe - 15,715
Wagon - 1,637

http://www.cadillacforums.com/forum...adillac-cts-v-general/292258-actual-cadillac-cts-production-numbers-2009-a.html

 

I think all CTS wagons, not only the V, will be a collector item regardless of it's powertrain in 50 years. I personally don't like the look of the V with it's front fascia or the 19" wheels. Doesn't look classy and pure elegant the way a Caddy should look. Just my opinion.

2010 CTS (All) - 40,100
Sedan - 36,548
Wagon - 3,552

2011 CTS (All) - 57,943
Sedan - 40,591
Coupe - 15,715
Wagon - 1,637

http://www.cadillacforums.com/forum...adillac-cts-v-general/292258-actual-cadillac-cts-production-numbers-2009-a.html

I agree. ALL of the wagons are going to be collector's items.

 

I also have this. All Red CTS-V Wagons made. Yeah, they're not many.

Model Year Paint Int Color Wood Suede Sunroof Trans Brakes Wheels Recaro Foreign Market Branded Title/Warranty Block VIN
2011 GBE AFH Y Y N M Silver P80 Y ****
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2011 GBE AFH Y Y N M Silver Q32 Y ****
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2011 GBE AFF N Y N M Silver P80 Y ****
2011 GBE AFF Y Y N M Silver Q32 Y ****
2011 GBE AFF N M Yellow RBJ Y ****
2012 GBE AFF Y N N M Yellow RUX Y ****
2012 GBE AFF N N N M Silver Q6P Y ****
2012 GBE AFF Y Y N M Silver RUX Y ****
2012 GBE AFF Y N N M Silver Q6P Y ****
2013 GBE AFF N N N M Silver RUX Y ****
2013 GBE AFH N Y N M Silver Q6P Y Europe/Belgium 1G6DV8EP2D0102240
2013 GBE AFF N N N M Silver Q6P Y ****
2013 GBE AFF Y Y N M Red RUX Y ****
2013 GBE AFF N N N M Silver RUX N ****
2013 GBE AFF Y M Y ****
2013 GBE AFF Y M N ****
2011 GBE AFF Y Y Y M Silver P80 Y ****
2011 GBE AFF Y Y Y M Silver Q32 Y ****
2011 GBE AFF N Y Y M Silver P80 Y Canada 1G6DV8EP2B0146347
2011 GBE AFF N Y Y M Silver Q32 Y ****
2011 GBE AFF N N Y M Silver Q32 N ****
2011 GBE AFF Y Y Y M Silver Q32 Y ****
2011 GBE AFF Y Y Y M Silver Q32 Y CA Rebuilt Title/Warranty Block 1G6DV8EP5B0126657
2012 GBE AFH Y N Y M Silver RUX Y ****
2012 GBE AFF N N Y M Silver Q6P N ****
2012 GBE AFF Y N Y M Yellow Q6P N ****
2012 GBE AFH Y M RUX Y ****
2011 GBE AFF N N N A Silver Q32 N ****
2011 GBE AFF N N N A Silver Q32 N ****
2011 GBE AFH N Y N A Silver P80 Y ****
2011 GBE AFF N N N A Silver Q32 N ****
2011 GBE AFH N Y N A Silver P80 Y ****
2011 GBE AFF N N N A Silver Q32 N ****
2011 GBE AFF N N N A Silver Q32 N ****
2011 GBE AFF N Y N A Silver P80 Y ****
2011 GBE AFF N N N A Silver Q32 N ****
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2011 GBE AFF N N N A Silver Q32 N ****
2011 GBE AFH N N N A Silver P80 N ****
2011 GBE AFF N N N A Silver Q32 N ****
2011 GBE AFF N N N A Silver Q32 N ****
2011 GBE AFF Y N N A Silver Q32 Y ****
2011 GBE AFF N N N A Silver Q32 N ****
2011 GBE AFF N Y N A Silver P80 Y ****
2011 GBE AFF N N N A Silver Q32 N ****
2011 GBE AFF N N N A Silver Q32 N ****
2011 GBE AFF Y N N A Silver P80 N ****
2011 GBE AFF N N N A Silver Q32 N ****
2011 GBE AFF N N N A Silver Q32 N ****
2011 GBE AFF N N N A Silver Q32 N ****
2011 GBE AFF N N N A Silver Q32 N ****
2011 GBE AFF N N N A Silver Q32 N ****
2011 GBE AFF Y Y N A Silver Q32 Y ****
2011 GBE AFF N N N A Silver Q32 N TX Junk Title/Warranty Block 1G6DV8EP2B0140967
2011 GBE AFF N N N A Silver Q32 N ****
2011 GBE AFF N N N A Silver Q32 N ****
2011 GBE AFF N N N A Silver Q32 N ****
2011 GBE AFF N N N A Silver Q32 N ****
2011 GBE AFH Y Y N A Silver P80 Y ****
2012 GBE AFH N N N A Silver RUX N ****
2012 GBE AFF Y Y N A Yellow RBJ Y ****
2012 GBE AFH Y N N A Silver RUX N ****
2012 GBE AFF Y Y N A Yellow RBJ Y ****
2012 GBE AFF Y Y N A Yellow RBJ Y ****
2012 GBE AFF N Y N A Silver Q6P Y ****
2012 GBE AFF Y Y N A Silver Q6P Y ****
2012 GBE AFF Y Y N A Silver Q6P Y ****
2013 GBE AFH N N N A Silver Q6P N ****
2013 GBE AFF N N N A Silver RUX N ****
2013 GBE AFF Y N N A Silver RUX Y ****
2013 GBE AFH N A Y ****
2011 GBE AFH N Y Y A Silver P80 Y ****
2011 GBE AFF N N Y A Silver Q32 N ****
2011 GBE AFH Y N Y A Silver P80 N ****
2011 GBE AFF Y Y Y A Silver P80 Y ****
2011 GBE AFF Y N Y A Silver Q32 Y ****
2011 GBE AFH N Y Y A Silver Q32 Y ****
2011 GBE AFH Y Y Y A Silver P80 Y ****
2011 GBE AFH Y Y Y A Silver P80 Y ****
2011 GBE AFF Y Y Y A Silver P80 Y ****
2011 GBE AFF Y N Y A Silver P80 Y ****
2011 GBE AFF N N Y A Silver P80 N ****
2011 GBE AFF N N Y A Silver P80 N ****
2011 GBE AFF Y Y Y A Silver P80 Y ****
2011 GBE AFF Y N Y A Silver P80 Y ****
2011 GBE AFH Y Y Y A Silver P80 Y ****
2011 GBE AFH Y Y Y A Silver P80 Y ****
2011 GBE AFF Y N Y A Silver P80 N ****
2011 GBE AFF Y N Y A Silver P80 N ****
2011 GBE AFF Y Y Y A Silver P80 Y ****
2011 GBE AFG N N Y A Silver Q32 N ****
2011 GBE AFF Y N Y A Silver P80 Y ****
2011 GBE AFF Y Y Y A Silver P80 Y ****
2012 GBE AFH Y Y Y A Silver Q6P Y ****
2012 GBE AFF Y Y Y A Silver Q6P Y ****
2012 GBE AFF Y Y Y A Silver Q6P Y ****
2012 GBE AFF Y Y Y A Silver Q6P Y ****
2012 GBE AFF Y Y Y A Silver Q6P Y ****
2012 GBE AFF Y Y Y A Silver Q6P Y ****
2012 GBE AFF Y N Y A Silver Q6P N ****
2012 GBE AFF Y N Y A Silver Q6P N ****
2012 GBE AFF Y Y Y A Silver Q6P Y ****
2012 GBE AFH Y Y Y A Silver RBJ Y ****
2012 GBE AFF Y Y Y A Silver RBJ Y ****
2012 GBE AFF Y Y Y A Silver RBJ Y ****
2012 GBE AFF Y Y Y A Silver Q6P Y ****
2012 GBE AFF N N Y A Silver Q6P N ****
2012 GBE AFH Y N Y A Silver Q6P N ****
2012 GBE AFH Y Y Y A Silver Q6P Y ****
2012 GBE AFH Y N Y A Silver RUX N ****
2012 GBE AFF Y Y Y A Silver Q6P Y ****
2012 GBE AFF Y Y Y A Silver Q6P Y ****
2012 GBE AFF N Y Y A Silver RBJ Y Europe/Belgium 1G6DV8EP7C0150802
2012 GBE AFF Y Y Y A Silver Q6P Y ****
2012 GBE AFF Y Y Y A Silver Q6P Y ****
2012 GBE AFF Y Y Y A Silver RBJ Y ****
2012 GBE AFH Y N Y A Silver RUX Y ****
2012 GBE AFF Y Y Y A Silver Q6P Y ****
2012 GBE AFF Y Y Y A Yellow RBJ Y Europe/Belgium 1G6DV8EP8C0100099
2012 GBE AFF Y A Q6P N ****
2012 GBE AFF Y Y Y A Silver Q6P Y ****
2012 GBE AFF Y Y Y A Silver Q6P Y ****
2012 GBE AFF N N Y A Silver RUX Y ****
2012 GBE AFF Y Y Y A Silver Q6P Y ****
2012 GBE AFF Y Y Y A Yellow RBJ Y ****
2012 GBE AFF Y Y Y A Silver Q6P Y ****
2012 GBE AFF Y N Y A Silver RUX Y ****
2012 GBE AFF Y N Y A Silver Q6P N ****
2012 GBE AFF Y Y Y A Silver Q6P Y MA Rebuilt Title/Warranty Block 1G6DV8EP3C0123788
2012 GBE AFF Y Y Y A Silver Q6P Y ****
2012 GBE AFF Y N Y A Silver Q6P Y ****
2012 GBE AFF N N Y A Silver Q6P N ****
2012 GBE AFF N Y Y A Silver Q6P Y ****
2012 GBE AFF Y N Y A Silver Q6P N ****
2012 GBE AFF N N Y A Yellow RBJ N ****
2012 GBE AFH Y N Y A Silver RUX N ****
2012 GBE AFH Y Y Y A Silver RUX Y ****
2012 GBE AFH Y N Y A Silver Q6P N ****
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2013 GBE AFF Y Y Y A Silver RBJ Y ****
2013 GBE AFF Y Y Y A Silver Q6P Y ****
2013 GBE AFF Y Y Y A Silver RBJ Y ****
2013 GBE AFH N N Y A Red RUX N ****
2013 GBE AFF N N Y A Silver RUX N ****
2013 GBE AFF Y Y Y A Red Q6P Y ****
2013 GBE AFF N Y Y A Red Q6P Y ****
2013 GBE AFH N N Y A Silver Q6P N ****
2013 GBE AFF N N Y A Yellow Q6P Y ****
2013 GBE AFH N Y Y A Silver Q6P Y ****
2013 GBE AFH Y Y Y A Red Q6P Y ****

 

way too many

 

Less than 3% of total production is not too many.

 

Sorry to burst your bubble, but production numbers alone does not a collector car make. Imagine if they made like 20 wagons in a single year production run and never made that particular version of wagon ever again...would that make them collectible? Not necessarily. To those that like the vehicle, they will think they found the holy grail when one comes up for sale. To others, it's nothing. Run one of those 20 across the block at Barrett Jackson and watch it flop if it doesn't have a huge following. More than low production numbers are needed for collectible status.

 

That's what I thought... until I saw the number of people that collect Studebakers... jeess.

 

My 2014 CTS Wagon (delivered Nov 2013) has had 3 cross country trips, now has 52K miles and is the best road car I’ve ever owned. I’ve seen maybe 40 in all this time. Everyone always asks “ what kind of car is that??”. I’ts going to be worth the $8K hail damage repair bill !!!

 

Yikes!
Welcome aboard, Buckobear.

 

My comprehensive covers hail as well as glass breakage (windshields in Florida are free) and is not very expensive.

 

If it had two less doors, I'd have a wagon.

 

I was in PA during a major hail storm. I think I did end up with some minor hail damage but you can only see it if you are at a good angle. A couple dents is all. Probably can easily be removed by those paintless dent removal people.

Love driving my wagon long distances. With the J55 brakes equipped with Powerstop Z26 series brakes they are very nice. If I have to stomp on them they really stop the car fast. The holes and slots really make a huge difference on panic type stops. I do have to get out of the car and walk around every few hours or so but you have to in pretty much any car. My truck probably is a little better padded seats but I guess if they bothered me that much I would replace them.

 

Rod: do you have the Recaros?
It took me a while to find the right position. Had to blow a LOT of air in the cushions to make it right.

After this I have taken the car on some 1.000 mile daily rides (back and forth to the Swedish mountains) and no pain for me. Just a bit of power surge on the turning Swedish higways where overtaking has to go faaaast.

To my very large regret I cant keep up with the Swedish T8 hybrid powertrains (unless it is the stompy XC90).


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I doubt these will be true collectors' items but a V-Wagon may have its following 25 years from now and may even appreciate in value at some point.

 

in 25 years we will all have 600 hp....or be pedaling....or "something else". 25 years ago we still had the NMSL.

 

Nationally Monitored Speed Limit?
Brushing up on my Padgettese...

 

I my 40.5 years in Denmark I never saw a Cadillac wagon. None for sale either. So how do you value such car now and in the future.

When next leasing expires I will buy it out, pay VAT and put it for sale.


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National Maximum Speed Limit. Google is your friend.

Hope I do not come across a V-wagon with a manual trans. There is at least one in O'town and I would be sore tempted (but my next car will be a XLR. Right.)

 

Actually, NMSL brought up Nationally Monitored Speed Limit on Google.
Perhaps you should just stick to words instead of acronyms, or perhaps I should put less effort into deciphering your posts.

 

Less effort is easier. I gave up a long time ago and have counted on you, Mr. Long, to translate for us all.

 

Padgett is knowledgeable and has much to share, but sometimes the information is a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma.

 

I'm a two finger typist, the browser keeps leaving out letters & do the best I can.

Would you prefer the "double nickel" ?

 

Would you prefer the "double nickel" ?

Never again!

 

I could easily play on words, but that's why I'm called Mr. Nice.

 

Bwahahahahahahahahaha

 

Oh the 55 days. I got so many speeding tickets on my motorcycles they upped my insurance $2,000 more a year on my motor vehicles.
How can anyone drive 55, this bike can do 130 MPH, I told one cop. He just laughed as he wrote the ticket. the tickets where only $35 so I did not care. until the insurance Co. found out.

 

Among other things I have rebuilt an Enigma (three rotor).

 

Why ? I've always thought the Golden Hawk was a great looking car and the Scotsman 2 door wagon had really clean lines. Think a Studillac is a neat car and don't forget it is "a bear's natural habitat".

That said many do not realize the difference between RARE and DESIRABLE. Many cars are rare because they weren't desirable (I never cared for the interior on an AMX).

For me my cars generally fall into GTs, Cruisers, Tow Cars, and the Judge which is a good example of a car that were a reasonable number built (3k coupes in 1970) but is popular & not many with both a 4-speed and AC.

My goat wagon held a full size mattress with the seat folded and was great to pull in backwards at a drive in.

BTW two words: Chevrolet Nomad.

 

In July a Nomad sold for $9200 on Bring a Trailer.

 

Must have been rusted out.

 

that doesn't change the statement that rarity alone makes something collectable...so the "smartass" is correct...and he's still here...

Bill

 

I'm glad this didn't turn into a personal attack 5 years later with name calling.