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Was driving down to the folk's house this morning and I actually passed a Cimarron, it looked to be one of the later models possibly an '87 or an '88...



Around these parts, actually seeing one driving down the road is a rarity. While the butt of countless jokes, the last models were in my opinion, not *that* bad of a little car, they just weren't a Cadillac.

I remember I almost bought one sometime back for what would have amounted to nothing more than shits and giggles. It was white one with an all RED leather(ette) interior, I think it was like $1000 or something like that.

I ultimately decided against it as I was told by the wife if I brought that "horrid, little mongrel" home she would redo my office in pink and purple... I laughed until she had the credit card in one hand and a catalog with a $2800 fuchsia-leather loveseat in the other. We never spoke of the Cad-alier again...

I've often wondered if Cadillac's little miscalculation will ever be considered a collector's item one day for being as rare as it was ridiculous? If people are starting to collect cars like the Gremlin I suppose anything's possible...
 

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Re: Holy Crap! I actually passed a Cimarron today

There's one floating around the city I live in. I see it every now and then...probably 1-2x a month.
 

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Re: Holy Crap! I actually passed a Cimarron today

There's one floating around the city I live in. I see it every now and then...probably 1-2x a month.
It's weird to see isn't it? Especially for a car that no one evidently bought!
 

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I remember I almost bought one sometime back for what would have amounted to nothing more than shits and giggles. It was white one with an all RED leather(ette) interior, I think it was like $1000 or something like that.

I ultimately decided against it as I was told by the wife if I brought that "horrid, little mongrel" home she would redo my office in pink and purple... I laughed until she had the credit card in one hand and a catalog with a $2800 fuchsia-leather loveseat in the other. We never spoke of the Cad-alier again...
Your wife cracks me up! I must say I agree with her.

I always called it the Chevillac or the Cadillac of Cavaliers.
 

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There are a couple in my area, and I've seen them in the junk yard and gotten an idea for what they're all about. Not bad, but just not what you'd expect form a Cadillac, either. I understand the V6/5-speed cars were quite quick, but when these were around nobody was buying Cadillacs because they were quick. The 4cyl/auto cars were just dogs, though. Pretty much a textbook example of how not to do this, just like the Lincoln Versailles, which too wasn't bad at all, just happened to be a very high-optioned Granada...
 

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Was driving down to the folk's house this morning Around these parts, actually seeing one driving down the road is a rarity. While the butt of countless jokes, the last models were in my opinion, not *that* bad of a little car, they just weren't a Cadillac.
I've got an '86 with the digital dash and 2.8 v6. You're right, it's not *that* bad of a little car just not a "Cadillac". But was it really meant to be ?

As I recall from the marketing of that time, they weren't trying to compete for traditional "Cadillac" buyers but for "Upscale Import" buyers; the people who would otherwise buy Audi 4000s, BMW 3-series, Volvo 740s, etc.

And there was a certain logic to it. After all, VW AG had taken the VW Passat/Dasher, plushed up the interior and power options and called it an "Audi 4000" and created one of the best-selling imports of all time. Why couldn't GM do the same by taking a Cavalier and turning it into a Cadillac ?

ANSWER: Ergonomics and Handling. In addition to my '86 Cimarron, I've also owned a number of Audi 4000s, 5000s and VWs of the same era, any of which are 3X the car this cimarron is. When it comes to Ergonomics and Handling, this car isn't even my '85 VW Jetta, let alone an Audi.

QUESTION: How could GM f*** it up so bad ? Obviously GM knew how to build euro-spec cars, because in the same era the Cimarron was sold in Europe as the Opel Ascona - albeit with a euro-tuned suspension - and actually beat Audi and BMW in sales for two years running.

I'm thinking the answer to this has more to do with GM management and marketing than with engineering.

Did GM marketing deliberately "soften-up" and/or "down-tune" the suspension of the Cimarron to appeal to big car buyers? I'd love to have access to an Opel Ascona of the same vintage to make a side-by-side comparison.

Hopefully they got it "right" on the Catera.
 

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I saw one up at Walmart the other day, it too was white with red interior. It would be funny if they did one day become collector's items. Although, I bet 50 years ago, if you said that Bel-Airs would one day be worth $40k+ for a restored one, they would laugh at you. Off topic, but, were there any cars around 20+ years ago, that you never thought would be collectable, but became so?
 

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I confess: I owned a Cadillac Cimarron (an '88); it was a reliable car while I had it, but soon got rid of it for an Eldorado. I now own a 92 Allanté and a 08 CTS.

And, remember: they laughed at the Edsel; now the Edsel is starting to be highly collectible, so who knows what might happen with the Cimarron.
 

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well guys, i own an 88 cimarron, #665 of 6,454 built in 88, ac blows cold and most everything works, i paid $500 for it.
 

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The '88 must be the one to have. I had a neighbor that bought one for his wife in'98. He drove a Jeep something. She was thrilled. Her father was a cadillac dealer years ago and she spent a lot of time in the Caddys at the showroom. That Cimarron was loaded and had the V6. It must have spent its life pampered in a garage and only driven on national holidays because it was mint. It was white on red leather and even had whitewall tires. They moved away about 5 tears ago but as far as I know she still has it and drives it daily.

I thought hers was cute, but too '80ish for me back when it was new with that boxy GM styling and knowing it was a J-Car it wasn't Cadillac enough. I wouldn't have bought one then but now at current prices for a cheap winter commuter? Maybe.

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I own a 88 cimarron. Looks like the one pictured at the top of the thread. Its fast, handles VERY well, is moderately reliable plus, parts are cheap (it uses SO many same parts as the other same year GM's with a 2.8L V6). The wife drives a 99 Deville, of course she looks down on it LOL. I'm thinking of putting a spoiler on the rear deck (its a rather anemic looking ass-end) the front actually looks kind of sporty, with the air dam and fog lights. I also paid 500$ for mine. The downside is it only gets 20mpg, thats it. Its really suprising how quick it is. Anybody know the HP of these cars?
 

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Honestly for 1988 (not the pinnacle of automotive design), a Cimarron like the one picture in the OP doesn't look too bad.

Are the Cobalt and the G5 really that much different 20 years later? I'm just asking -- I wouldn't own one of those either...
 

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I've got an '86 with the digital dash and 2.8 v6. You're right, it's not *that* bad of a little car just not a "Cadillac". But was it really meant to be ?

As I recall from the marketing of that time, they weren't trying to compete for traditional "Cadillac" buyers but for "Upscale Import" buyers; the people who would otherwise buy Audi 4000s, BMW 3-series, Volvo 740s, etc.

And there was a certain logic to it. After all, VW AG had taken the VW Passat/Dasher, plushed up the interior and power options and called it an "Audi 4000" and created one of the best-selling imports of all time. Why couldn't GM do the same by taking a Cavalier and turning it into a Cadillac ?

ANSWER: Ergonomics and Handling. In addition to my '86 Cimarron, I've also owned a number of Audi 4000s, 5000s and VWs of the same era, any of which are 3X the car this cimarron is. When it comes to Ergonomics and Handling, this car isn't even my '85 VW Jetta, let alone an Audi.

QUESTION: How could GM f*** it up so bad ? Obviously GM knew how to build euro-spec cars, because in the same era the Cimarron was sold in Europe as the Opel Ascona - albeit with a euro-tuned suspension - and actually beat Audi and BMW in sales for two years running.

I'm thinking the answer to this has more to do with GM management and marketing than with engineering.

Did GM marketing deliberately "soften-up" and/or "down-tune" the suspension of the Cimarron to appeal to big car buyers? I'd love to have access to an Opel Ascona of the same vintage to make a side-by-side comparison.

Hopefully they got it "right" on the Catera.
I`ve resurrected this thread with some info of my own.

I`ve asked the same question as you:How could GM f*** up so bad? GM has had some duds in the past including the 4.1 liter engine.On the plus side,they usually redeem themselves.
I remember when the Cimarron had it`s run in the 1980`s.At the time i could`nt afford to buy one so i bought a brand new 1981 Pontiac Phoenix LJ Coupe,complete with ultra-plush seats,wire wheel covers,textured roof,big white walls and a hood ornament----it was loaded.It was the closest ride to a Caddy i could afford and i loved that ride.
I would imagine GM did soften-up the Cimarron suspension to try and duplicate the big car "floaty" ride.The car was too small for a real "floaty" ride.
I have not seen a Cimarron on the roads at all for at least 7 years now.
 
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