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History Lesson

Abraham Lincoln was elected to Congress in 1846.
John F. Kennedy was elected to Congress in 1946.

Abraham Lincoln was elected President in 1860.
John F. Kennedy was elected President in 1960.

Both were particularly concerned with civil rights.
Both wives lost their children while living in the White House.

Both Presidents were shot on a Friday.
Both Presidents were shot in the head.

Now it gets really weird.

Lincoln 's secretary was named Kennedy.
Kennedy's Secretary was named Lincoln.

Both were assassinated by Southerners.
Both were succeeded by Southerners named Johnson.

Andrew Johnson, who succeeded Lincoln, was born in 1808.
Lyndon Johnson, who succeeded Kennedy, was born in 1908.

John Wilkes Booth, who assassinated Lincoln, was born in 1839.
Lee Harvey Oswald, who assassinated Kennedy, was born in 1939.

Both assassins were known by their three names.
Both names are composed of fifteen letters.

Now hang on to your seat.

Lincoln was shot at the theater named 'Ford.'
Kennedy was shot in a car called ' Lincoln' made by 'Ford.'

Lincoln was shot in a theater and his assassin ran and hid in a warehouse.
Kennedy was shot from a warehouse and his assassin ran and hid in a theater.

Booth and Oswald were assassinated before their trials.

And here's the kicker...

A week before Lincoln was shot, he was in Monroe, Maryland
A week before Kennedy was shot, he was with Marilyn Monroe.
 

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wow thats wierd!
 

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I had never heard about it....man if my history teacher would've taught this I might've paid attention :sneaky: :D
 

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Equally interesting is the event which took place years later with JW Booths older brother, Edwin, and Lincolns son Robert Todd Lincoln.......

>>>The story of Robert's rescue by Booth seemed such an ironic coincidence that a number of people who heard the tale decided to record it for posterity -- with varying degrees of factuality. While Booth himself never actually wrote about the incident, Robert Lincoln penned at least three separate narratives of the episode and spoke of it at least twice.

Lincoln first told the story to Badeau when they were both serving on Grant's staff. Badeau subsequently corresponded with Booth about the incident. Two 19th-century accounts of the rescue were written in 1893, the year of Booth's death.

An article in the Boston Morning Journal, reporting on Booth's funeral, contains the first known printed narrative of the rescue: "At Bowling Green, Ky., it happened that Mr. Lincoln and Mr. Booth were waiting for a train. Neither was aware of the other's presence. Mr. Lincoln had strayed on a switching track. An engine came along, and he would have undoubtedly been struck and probably killed had not Mr. Booth, with a quick movement, pushed him out of harm's way."
(excerpted from: http://historynet.com/cwti/blbooth/index1.html)<<<<
 

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KOBO said:
"At Bowling Green, Ky., it happened that Mr. Lincoln and Mr. Booth were waiting for a train. Neither was aware of the other's presence. Mr. Lincoln had strayed on a switching track. An engine came along, and he would have undoubtedly been struck and probably killed had not Mr. Booth, with a quick movement, pushed him out of harm's way."
(excerpted from: http://historynet.com/cwti/blbooth/index1.html)<<<<

If that isnt the definition of irony, I dont know what is!
 

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Aahhhh! B you are awesome! I LOVE the whole Kennedy thing. That story intrigues me so much and JFK is one of my favorite movies. Kinda makes you wonder about the whole conspiracy theory huh? Too many figures in the shadows around that story. I wrote a killer research paper on the JFK Assassination in 11th grade. If anyone on here is interested in reading it PM me. I love the whole JFK thing, it really makes me think and I like that.
 

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DopeStar 156 said:
Aahhhh! B you are awesome! I LOVE the whole Kennedy thing. That story intrigues me so much and JFK is one of my favorite movies. Kinda makes you wonder about the whole conspiracy theory huh? Too many figures in the shadows around that story. I wrote a killer research paper on the JFK Assassination in 11th grade. If anyone on here is interested in reading it PM me. I love the whole JFK thing, it really makes me think and I like that.

Yeah when I read it was freaked out! That is some crazy stuff, very interesting! I wish I knew about this in school, I would've loved to do a paper on it.
 

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Interesting coincidences, but...
Lincoln lost seven different elections before he was finally elected to the Illinois state legislature.
Kennedy won virtually every election he entered.
Lincoln was born in 1809.
Kennedy was born in 1917.
Lincoln died in 1865.
Kennedy died in 1963.
Each men's first names contain different numbers of letters, and only Kennedy had a middle name.
Lincoln was 56 at the time of his death.
Kennedy was 46 at the time of his death.
Lincoln was killed indoors with a small handgun.
Kennedy was killed from several hundred feet away with a rifle.
Lincoln did NOT have a secretary named Kennedy. This is a false piece of "trivia" that somehow surfaced soon after Kennedy's assassination. Lincoln's secretaries, both men, were named Nicolay and Hay. Also, Kennedy did have a secretary named Lincoln, but there is no evidence that she spoke to Kennedy within a week of his trip to Dallas.
Both were succeeded by 'Southerners' because like most presidents (from Non-southern states) they chose southern VP candidates....hardly suprising there.
Booth was born in 1838, not 1839.
Booth was born in to a prominent, well known family, and enjoyed a life of relative well-being.
Oswald came from near-poverty, never knew his father, was moody, friendless, relatively uneducated, and often unemployed.
Booth never married.
Oswald was married with two children.
Finally, it would have been quite interesting for Kennedy to have been with Marilyn Monroe a week before he was shot, since she died over year before his death.


and finally...perhaps the oddest coincidence...

Lincoln Kennedy is a lineman for the Oakland Raiders....


One must be careful not to ascribe simple coincidences, mathematical certainties, and other odd similiarities to vast underground conspiracy or other 'third party' goings-on....
 

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Finally, it would have been quite interesting for Kennedy to have been with Marilyn Monroe a week before he was shot, since she died over year before his death.....

:histeric:

The first time I heard all that stuff was 1977. It gets something added to it every few years.

Bobby was the one who did Marilyn.
 

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I am a quiet supporter of the conspiracy theory, I have read some books etc on the subject, I have a mild interest.

If Oswald was involved, it is certain he wasnt alone...
 

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Interesting coincidences, but...
Lincoln lost seven different elections before he was finally elected to the Illinois state legislature.
Kennedy won virtually every election he entered.
Lincoln was born in 1809.
Kennedy was born in 1917.
Lincoln died in 1865.
Kennedy died in 1963.
Each men's first names contain different numbers of letters, and only Kennedy had a middle name.
Lincoln was 56 at the time of his death.
Kennedy was 46 at the time of his death.
Lincoln was killed indoors with a small handgun.
Kennedy was killed from several hundred feet away with a rifle.
Lincoln did NOT have a secretary named Kennedy. This is a false piece of "trivia" that somehow surfaced soon after Kennedy's assassination. Lincoln's secretaries, both men, were named Nicolay and Hay. Also, Kennedy did have a secretary named Lincoln, but there is no evidence that she spoke to Kennedy within a week of his trip to Dallas.
Both were succeeded by 'Southerners' because like most presidents (from Non-southern states) they chose southern VP candidates....hardly suprising there.
Booth was born in 1838, not 1839.
Booth was born in to a prominent, well known family, and enjoyed a life of relative well-being.
Oswald came from near-poverty, never knew his father, was moody, friendless, relatively uneducated, and often unemployed.
Booth never married.
Oswald was married with two children.
Finally, it would have been quite interesting for Kennedy to have been with Marilyn Monroe a week before he was shot, since she died over year before his death.


and finally...perhaps the oddest coincidence...

Lincoln Kennedy is a lineman for the Oakland Raiders....


One must be careful not to ascribe simple coincidences, mathematical certainties, and other odd similiarities to vast underground conspiracy or other 'third party' goings-on....

So what you're saying is....not all of it is true?! :banghead: Well that sucks....
 

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Unfortunately, yes. Most of the "coincidences" are merely chance - for example, the fact that they were both killed on a Friday is hardly suprising. Most presidential public outings start on a Friday. And, there's a 1 in 7 chance of it happening that way anyways.

The election year similarity is also easily explained mathematically - since the election is only held every four years, and there were what, 20 elections between them, it comes to a one chance in 20 that they'd be a hundred years apart. Not all that great. Plus, Lincoln was assassinated during his second term, which began in 1864.

Some of the other "factoids" are also not really true. For example, both assassins were NOT known by all three of their names - "John Booth" was actually much more common, and he went by "Julius" a lot, to differentiate him from his famous father. "Harvey" was the middle name discovered after Oswald's death, he almost always went by plain old "Lee".

Booth also did not run and hide in a 'warehouse', it was actually a tobacco drying barn.

It's not that I'm trying to burst all the bubbles here, it's just that it shows a lack of reasoned thinking and examination to connect all these things and make something sinister out of it, when there's really nothing there.
 
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